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Valentino46
post Mar 5 2015, 02:48 AM

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QUOTE(RicoT @ Mar 3 2015, 02:49 PM)

When you walk into a merc salesroom, if you ask the salesman what the service cost is, they will reply: "if you can own a merc, these are consider small money to you." Although it is a bit sarcastic, but it is true.
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there are many level of a "rich people", and that statement is poor man's interpretation of what a rich man is

there are many people that gotten rich by being careful and good spending habits, paying almost 10% of the car worth for a pair of headlamp is definitely not classify as clever money spending,a clever rich person may or may not accept that as a good way of spending their hard earn money(but poor people usually has different thinking)
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post Mar 5 2015, 08:27 AM

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QUOTE(RicoT @ Mar 3 2015, 02:49 PM)
When you walk into a merc salesroom, if you ask the salesman what the service cost is, they will reply: "if you can own a merc, these are consider small money to you." Although it is a bit sarcastic, but it is true.
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Had a friend's friend whom told me and my friend, that he wanted to get a CLS 350. But he was dressed like in normal shirt and long pants.
The salesman tak mau layan him (according to him).

Finally he got so fed up, went to another showroom, got his CLS 350.

And drove back to that showroom to show it to that salesman that looked down at him.

Moral of the story; dont judge the book by it's cover.

Another example is: my mom's friend husband, he is owner of a company, but in his office, he just wears shirt and pants and slippers, at the office (i witness myself)
However he is already driving a E250 himself (and own several other cars) and stays in a bungalow.

This post has been edited by SleeplessEyes: Mar 5 2015, 08:28 AM
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post Mar 5 2015, 09:38 AM

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QUOTE(19 Degree South @ Mar 4 2015, 10:04 PM)
Don't think so! Infact the franchise workshop's samurai sword is sharper!this is because the workshop has a budget to fulfill ! Thy do have kpi to fulfill too! Infact if you got lobang, the parts are ain't that expensive purchase at spare parts shop.
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Yes, if one have lobang, he can get cheaper price. However, I would still opt for official workshop due to the vast resources and proper training available to them. Outside workshop, they just chin chai (simply) whack here and there, forgot some bolts and nuts, place imitation parts while selling you price for genuine one. Something like how a workshop collaborate with insurance assessor to claim original parts yet put in imitation parts in damaged cars.

QUOTE(Valentino46 @ Mar 5 2015, 02:48 AM)
there are many level of a "rich people", and that statement is poor man's interpretation of what a rich man is

there are many people that gotten rich by being careful and good spending habits, paying almost 10% of the car worth for a pair of headlamp is definitely not classify as clever money spending,a clever rich person may or may not accept that as a good way of spending their hard earn money(but poor people usually has different thinking)
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Yet they (the rich but spending-conscious) can afford to pay this kind of price when it is necessary, even if they are discontent with the price. But what if one does not have the money to pay the "unexpected" high price for repair/spare parts? How? Find relative/ah long borrow money to repair the car?

QUOTE(SleeplessEyes @ Mar 5 2015, 08:27 AM)
Had a friend's friend whom told me and my friend, that he wanted to get a CLS 350. But he was dressed like in normal shirt and long pants.
The salesman tak mau layan him (according to him).

Finally he got so fed up, went to another showroom, got his CLS 350.

And drove back to that showroom to show it to that salesman that looked down at him.

Moral of the story; dont judge the book by it's cover.

Another example is:  my mom's friend husband, he is owner of a company, but in his office, he just wears shirt and pants and slippers, at the office (i witness myself)
However he is already driving a E250 himself (and own several other cars) and stays in a bungalow.
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As always in life, don't judge a book by its cover. The salesman attending me very helpful, of course, there are the unhelpful ones, encountered many before him. But it suit them right, not being professional enough in their work ended up losing customers and buyers.
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post Mar 5 2015, 02:56 PM

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QUOTE(RicoT @ Mar 5 2015, 09:38 AM)

Yet they (the rich but spending-conscious) can afford to pay this kind of price when it is necessary, even if they are discontent with the price. But what if one does not have the money to pay the "unexpected" high price for repair/spare parts? How? Find relative/ah long borrow money to repair the car?

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yeah,but there are many si ai bin youngster today that will rather rent an apartment and buy a recon mercedes just to brag how rich how successful they are


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post Mar 5 2015, 03:20 PM

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QUOTE(RicoT @ Mar 5 2015, 09:38 AM)
Yes, if one have lobang, he can get cheaper price. However, I would still opt for official workshop due to the vast resources and proper training available to them. Outside workshop, they just chin chai (simply) whack here and there, forgot some bolts and nuts, place imitation parts while selling you price for genuine one. Something like how a workshop collaborate with insurance assessor to claim original parts yet put in imitation parts in damaged cars.
Yet they (the rich but spending-conscious) can afford to pay this kind of price when it is necessary, even if they are discontent with the price. But what if one does not have the money to pay the "unexpected" high price for repair/spare parts? How? Find relative/ah long borrow money to repair the car?
As always in life, don't judge a book by its cover. The salesman attending me very helpful, of course, there are the unhelpful ones, encountered many before him. But it suit them right, not being professional enough in their work ended up losing customers and buyers.
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Bro, I was talking about after warranty period end! If under warranty one got no choice but yo send back to franchise to maintain the warranty. U can purchase the parts yourself and pay the labour fees for outside workshop to replace the parts! There are plenty of experienced mechanic outside that are good at repairing continental car. Some even have Dyno machines just like franchise ! Lol...I avoid see & see and auto barbaric at all times! They got the most atas sa in the world ! lmao!
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post Mar 5 2015, 06:07 PM

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QUOTE(SleeplessEyes @ Mar 5 2015, 08:27 AM)
Had a friend's friend whom told me and my friend, that he wanted to get a CLS 350. But he was dressed like in normal shirt and long pants.
The salesman tak mau layan him (according to him).

Finally he got so fed up, went to another showroom, got his CLS 350.

And drove back to that showroom to show it to that salesman that looked down at him.

Moral of the story; dont judge the book by it's cover.

Another example is:  my mom's friend husband, he is owner of a company, but in his office, he just wears shirt and pants and slippers, at the office (i witness myself)
However he is already driving a E250 himself (and own several other cars) and stays in a bungalow.
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I think that story is an urban legend. I also heard it many times similarly from other friends as well. Here is a good example experienced by Timothy Tiah, owner of NuffNang: http://www.timothytiah.com/2014/06/16/the-...cedes-salesman/

It's good to have salesmen who can show respect to anyone who comes into the showroom. Spending a bit of time talking when you have nothing to do won't give any losses to you.
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post Mar 5 2015, 06:17 PM

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QUOTE(muffdiver @ Mar 5 2015, 06:07 PM)
I think that story is an urban legend. I also heard it many times similarly from other friends as well. Here is a good example experienced by Timothy Tiah, owner of NuffNang: http://www.timothytiah.com/2014/06/16/the-...cedes-salesman/

It's good to have salesmen who can show respect to anyone who comes into the showroom. Spending a bit of time talking when you have nothing to do won't give any losses to you.
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Lol...try go to Audi showroom at imbi! Bet u stand there whole day also no one bother to approach you. Hup seng star and nz wheel has got friendly sa.
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QUOTE(19 Degree South @ Mar 5 2015, 03:20 PM)
Bro, I was talking  about after warranty period end! If under warranty one got no choice but yo send back to franchise to maintain the warranty. U can purchase the parts yourself and pay the labour fees for outside workshop to replace the parts! There are plenty of experienced mechanic outside that are good at repairing continental car. Some even have Dyno machines just like franchise !  Lol...I avoid see & see and auto barbaric at all times! They got the most atas sa in the world ! lmao!
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I do agree with your point. I do have a few family mechanics who specialise in mercedes. Their workshop is fully equipped with dyno and testing equipments similar to the official workshops. They were the one who told me to get a mercedes since it is cheap to maintain and long lasting. Apparently, due to its popularity for many years, their spare parts are widely available in any state you go.
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post Mar 5 2015, 06:43 PM

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QUOTE(muffdiver @ Mar 5 2015, 06:19 PM)
I do agree with your point. I do have a few family mechanics who specialise in mercedes. Their workshop is fully equipped with dyno and testing equipments similar to the official workshops. They were the one who told me to get a mercedes since it is cheap to maintain and long lasting. Apparently, due to its popularity for many years, their spare parts are widely available in any state you go.
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can you recommend me your frequent mercedes mechanics?
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post Mar 5 2015, 07:01 PM

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MBM will launch CKD version of the new C200 and C250 soon. Expected price RM20k cheaper than the current CBU version.
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post Mar 6 2015, 12:20 AM

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QUOTE(Stamp @ Mar 5 2015, 07:01 PM)
MBM will launch CKD version of the new C200 and C250 soon. Expected price RM20k cheaper than the current CBU version.
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saving of less than a pair of its headlamp
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post Mar 6 2015, 10:23 AM

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QUOTE(RicoT @ Mar 3 2015, 02:49 PM)
I do have a W212 pre-FL E200, the one using 1.8L instead of 2.0L engine. I did warranty claim on certain items before, and did find the time to ask the Service Adviser on the cost of getting it replace without warranty. Headlights one pair + workmanship = RM21k (original parts of course). Damper 1 pair (not sure front or rear) + workmanship = RM6-8k(?) (I forgot the exact amount but it is somewhere in this regime). Brake pads + workmanship about RM1.5k(?). I just got a major service done and it cost about RM7k with some spare change, gear oil, engine oil, combi filter, air con cleaning & service, etc. I am not sure how much is the charges if do it outside after warranty, but to avoid my warranty getting voided, I usually do my car service at C&C PJ.

When you walk into a merc salesroom, if you ask the salesman what the service cost is, they will reply: "if you can own a merc, these are consider small money to you." Although it is a bit sarcastic, but it is true.
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Aren't the headlights covered by insurance? Who would pay RM21k for a pair of lights? rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(Valentino46 @ Mar 6 2015, 12:20 AM)
saving of less than a pair of its headlamp
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Those buying proton cars save more than the cars' price than those buying Honda cars.

Only those who can't afford complaint the loudest, eh?
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QUOTE(aspartame @ Mar 6 2015, 10:23 AM)
Aren't the headlights covered by insurance? Who would pay RM21k for a pair of lights?  rclxub.gif
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Sometimes, it is unfortunate that someone reverse into your car and take off one of the headlamp, maybe defects on the car found after warranty, or even pebble on the road crack the headlamp. Having a nice merc, the owner will feel unhappy about it and it is an eye-sore to look at it everytime. Hence, change.

I claimed warranty for my car headlamps because there is a, er.. sort of semi-transparent V-shaped mark on it. According to the service adviser, it might be due to oil on the road being wash up on the headlamp, and the high temperature light beam pass through the plastic headlamps, deteriorated the plastic, hence the V-shape mark. It is very obvious as we can trace the beam shape to the mark on the headlamp. They never had a case before for my model, but they wouldn't be surprise mine is the first one, since it has been through 132000km in the first 3 years. The mileage and driving duration clocked on the car is much higher than usual customers.

Even merc battery cost about RM1k each, but you can claim new battery during the warranty. Rear damper had been changed, warranty claimed. It feels like every mechanical parts can be claimed during warranty, except brake pads and discs.

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QUOTE(RicoT @ Mar 6 2015, 05:36 PM)
Sometimes, it is unfortunate that someone reverse into your car and take off one of the headlamp, maybe defects on the car found after warranty, or even pebble on the road crack the headlamp. Having a nice merc, the owner will feel unhappy about it and it is an eye-sore to look at it everytime. Hence, change.

I claimed warranty for my car headlamps because there is a, er.. sort of semi-transparent V-shaped mark on it. According to the service adviser, it might be due to oil on the road being wash up on the headlamp, and the high temperature light beam pass through the plastic headlamps, deteriorated the plastic, hence the V-shape mark. It is very obvious as we can trace the beam shape to the mark on the headlamp. They never had a case before for my model, but they wouldn't be surprise mine is the first one, since it has been through 132000km in the first 3 years. The mileage and driving duration clocked on the car is much higher than usual customers.

Even merc battery cost about RM1k each, but you can claim new battery during the warranty. Rear damper had been changed, warranty claimed. It feels like every mechanical parts can be claimed during warranty, except brake pads and discs.
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If someone reversed and damaged the headlights, it is considered an accident right? Can we claim insurance?
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QUOTE(RicoT @ Mar 6 2015, 05:36 PM)
Sometimes, it is unfortunate that someone reverse into your car and take off one of the headlamp, maybe defects on the car found after warranty, or even pebble on the road crack the headlamp. Having a nice merc, the owner will feel unhappy about it and it is an eye-sore to look at it everytime. Hence, change.

I claimed warranty for my car headlamps because there is a, er.. sort of semi-transparent V-shaped mark on it. According to the service adviser, it might be due to oil on the road being wash up on the headlamp, and the high temperature light beam pass through the plastic headlamps, deteriorated the plastic, hence the V-shape mark. It is very obvious as we can trace the beam shape to the mark on the headlamp. They never had a case before for my model, but they wouldn't be surprise mine is the first one, since it has been through 132000km in the first 3 years. The mileage and driving duration clocked on the car is much higher than usual customers.

Even merc battery cost about RM1k each, but you can claim new battery during the warranty. Rear damper had been changed, warranty claimed. It feels like every mechanical parts can be claimed during warranty, except brake pads and discs.
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True...my DRL was broken by flying stone on the highway thus need to fork out own money to replace!

QUOTE(aspartame @ Mar 6 2015, 05:55 PM)
If someone reversed and damaged the headlights, it is considered an accident right? Can we claim insurance?
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Can if both party make a report at the same time and the one who hit you admitted his liability! If this happen in a private car park and not federal roads, police will issue a NFA( non further action) letter. That means you can only claim through a lawyer on a third party claim basis ! Private places are not under the juridictions of the police!
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QUOTE(19 Degree South @ Mar 6 2015, 06:49 PM)
True...my DRL was broken by flying stone on the highway thus need to fork out own money  to replace!
Can if both party make a report at the same time and the one who hit you admitted his liability! If this happen in a private car park and not federal roads, police will issue a NFA( non further action) letter. That means you can only claim through a lawyer on a third party claim basis ! Private places are not under the juridictions of the  police!
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Even if it is your fault, if you have comprehensive cover, you can claim right? And, to take it even further, the stone hitting your car is also an accident right? Maybe can claim? tongue.gif
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QUOTE(aspartame @ Mar 6 2015, 07:34 PM)
Even if it is your fault, if you have comprehensive cover, you can claim right? And, to take it even further, the stone hitting your car is also an accident right? Maybe can claim?  tongue.gif
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Nope, to clqim insurance, you have to make police report, and there is a minimum claim amount, meaning if the DRL cost less than RM1000, thry won't entertain. That is why workshop will use hammer to break your car more, e.g. lights, bumper, etc. so you can claim insurance.
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QUOTE(Stamp @ Mar 6 2015, 10:51 AM)
Those buying proton cars save more than the cars' price than those buying Honda cars.

Only those who can't afford complaint the loudest, eh?
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well,depends on how you define "afford"

i believe many of us can certainly buy a merc,but choose not to,so which category we falls in?

affordable but stingy category then i guess

in truth,many including me complaint vocally not because we can't afford,but because of the exorbitant price we had to pay for the car




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