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dannyw
post May 17 2018, 12:46 PM

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QUOTE(6UE5T @ May 16 2018, 11:21 PM)
Century Marathoner is so-so only, I won't buy anymore to be honest.
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I will say getting worse. Same Battery model, same car, same driver, from last time can last 2 years, until less than 1.5 Years...

No more Century Marathoner... bye.gif
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QUOTE(dannyw @ May 17 2018, 12:46 PM)
I will say getting worse. Same Battery model, same car, same driver, from last time can last 2 years, until less than 1.5 Years...

No more Century Marathoner... bye.gif
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so what u use now?
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post May 23 2018, 11:54 AM

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QUOTE(spreeeee @ May 23 2018, 11:48 AM)
so what u use now?
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Amaron, Hi Life Pro. Still less than a year, so can't comment yet!

Of cos hope is long life.... biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(dannyw @ May 23 2018, 11:54 AM)
Amaron, Hi Life Pro. Still less than a year, so can't comment yet!

Of cos hope is long life....  biggrin.gif
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HI LIFE PRO is higher range than GO?
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post Jun 16 2018, 10:35 AM

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century marathoner now already 3 years and still kicking.
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post Jun 17 2018, 12:07 PM

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As of those batteries from South Korea, most of them either made by Johnson Controls or Hankook group.

Under Johnson Controls group
- Varta (most of the Silver dynamic made in Korea now, Blue/Black guarantee made in Korea)
- Delkor
- Energizer
- GP (Johnson Controls oem for them through Delkor plant)

Hankook group
- Hankook
- Atlas BX
- Koba
- Aurora
- Europower

Amaron, also a JV company between Amara Raja Batteries with Johnson Controls
https://www.amaron.in/aboutus.php


Basically cannot go to wrong with Johnson Controls batteries (just purchase the highest spec your car can equip with, it should last quite some years)

Eg - Get DIN62L/R instead of DIN55L/R, DIN75L instead of DIN65/DIN66L, 80D23L instead of 55D23L, 55B24L instead of 40B24L, 42B19L instead of 34B19L.
The price difference could be minimal for certain brands.


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QUOTE(scorgio @ May 7 2018, 09:40 PM)
Avoid the brand KOBA.

I bought one Dec 2016, by Mac 2017, it can't hold charge d. After turn off engine, the voltage will drop to 7V. Ok, the shop replaced a new unit for me.

The 2nd unit, after 2 mths, 1 day I smell fumes while inside the car, I opened the boot & saw the battery smoking (acid fumes coming out of the exhaust holes), a sign of overcharging/overheating. Went back to the shop, tested the alternator output extensively, constant 14V. The salesman from KOBA insisted it's my car's charging system. I said there's no problem when I put in battery from other brand.

Fine, KOBA dealer replaced 1 more new unit to me. This time, I don't dare to put inside my car d. Keep in store for 3 mths. Then around Nov 2017, I installed it into another car after charging it full. This car was driven only like 1-2 times a month. During Apr 2018, the batt was low on charge, the car was not started for a month. Took the batt out to charge. It can't go beyond 60%. When I unplug the charger, it's at 12.5V, the next morning it'll drop below 12V. Test with batt analyzer, test result "please replace battery".
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Wow... went to a wiring shop to check my headlight and was recommended Koba. I thought want to try since from Korea but your experience made me think twice.

Max I would drive it at least once a week. Otherwise the battery would really go dead very fast.

Maybe I should just stick with Panasonic then.

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post Jul 4 2018, 02:42 AM

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My Car (Bought on 2011) - Battery Changes
1st Battery = Original RAMCAR MF NS60 Type (45AH / 435CCA) = Around 3 Year 6 Month
2nd Battery = Yokohama MF NS60LS (??AH / ???CCA) = Around 3Year 3 Month Battery Life (Around 1Year Mostly Not Use Alarm to save battery life and when long vacation in garage)

2nd Battery Cannot Crank anymore since End of Fasting Month (May / June 2018)
- Use power-bank To Jump Start More than 5 Time Already and work well (but now cannot crank even jump start using power-bank).
- Charge Battery (Charge it using auto mode) - Can Start at first but after let it cool for 2 Day - Low Power / cannot crank back.

* So Now I'm looking for replacement with this few type of battery :-
1st Choice = Yuasa Non-MF NS60LS (Type B) = Still unable to find
2nd Choice = Yokohama Non-MF NS60LS (Type B) = also not yet can be found easily
3rd Choice = Panasonic non-MF/MF NS60LS (Type B) (45AH / 439CCA) = MF sells at PJ, but current battery unreliable to travel that distance (KIV-Not sure worth it or not)
4th Choice = Century Ultramax MF NS60LS (55AH / 434CCA) / (Not sure if have non-MF model) = Store Located Nearby, Ultramax Power seems so tempting
5th Choice = If I can ever get RAMCAR battery back, it's quite reliable all the way with Alarm On Still can make it for 3Year 6 Month

So tomorrow may be the last finalize date to pick which battery will be nominated blink.gif
Need to change immediately for my working usage... Hope I make a right choice icon_rolleyes.gif

This post has been edited by liquid.D: Jul 4 2018, 02:47 AM
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post Jul 4 2018, 07:10 AM

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QUOTE(liquid.D @ Jul 4 2018, 02:42 AM)
My Car (Bought on 2011) - Battery Changes
1st Battery = Original RAMCAR MF NS60 Type (45AH / 435CCA) = Around 3 Year 6 Month
2nd Battery = Yokohama MF NS60LS (??AH / ???CCA) = Around 3Year 3 Month Battery Life (Around 1Year Mostly Not Use Alarm to save battery life and when long vacation in garage)

2nd Battery Cannot Crank anymore since End of Fasting Month (May / June 2018)
- Use power-bank To Jump Start More than 5 Time Already and work well (but now cannot crank even jump start using power-bank).
- Charge Battery (Charge it using auto mode) - Can Start at first but after let it cool for 2 Day - Low Power / cannot crank back.

* So Now I'm looking for replacement with this few type of battery :-
1st Choice = Yuasa Non-MF  NS60LS (Type B) = Still unable to find
2nd Choice = Yokohama Non-MF NS60LS (Type B) = also not yet can be found easily
3rd Choice = Panasonic non-MF/MF NS60LS (Type B) (45AH / 439CCA) = MF sells at PJ, but current battery unreliable to travel that distance (KIV-Not sure worth it or not)
4th Choice = Century Ultramax MF NS60LS (55AH / 434CCA) / (Not sure if have non-MF model)  = Store Located Nearby, Ultramax Power seems so tempting
5th Choice = If I can ever get RAMCAR battery back, it's quite reliable all the way with Alarm On Still can make it for 3Year 6 Month

So tomorrow may be the last finalize date to pick which battery will be nominated  blink.gif
Need to change immediately for my working usage... Hope I make a right choice  icon_rolleyes.gif
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U use proton? If yes, then u can get ramcar from proton SC. Ramcar the best battery i used for my car so far.

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post Jul 5 2018, 06:56 AM

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QUOTE(akira87 @ Jul 4 2018, 07:10 AM)
U use proton? If yes, then u can get ramcar from proton SC. Ramcar the best battery i used for my car so far.
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Yeah Indeed, problem is my current car battery look like unreliable to travel to SC like in section 13 (reliable and mostly will have stock), afraid 1/2 way make problem...

- You always get new Ramcar from SC when you sent for service?

* Btw now I saw another Amaron they said in some forum "Really Last Long", so now I wondering if good to explore it or not... anyone use amaron NS60 type?

This post has been edited by liquid.D: Jul 5 2018, 06:58 AM
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QUOTE(liquid.D @ Jul 4 2018, 02:42 AM)
My Car (Bought on 2011) - Battery Changes
1st Battery = Original RAMCAR MF NS60 Type (45AH / 435CCA) = Around 3 Year 6 Month
2nd Battery = Yokohama MF NS60LS (??AH / ???CCA) = Around 3Year 3 Month Battery Life (Around 1Year Mostly Not Use Alarm to save battery life and when long vacation in garage)

2nd Battery Cannot Crank anymore since End of Fasting Month (May / June 2018)
- Use power-bank To Jump Start More than 5 Time Already and work well (but now cannot crank even jump start using power-bank).
- Charge Battery (Charge it using auto mode) - Can Start at first but after let it cool for 2 Day - Low Power / cannot crank back.

* So Now I'm looking for replacement with this few type of battery :-
1st Choice = Yuasa Non-MF  NS60LS (Type B) = Still unable to find
2nd Choice = Yokohama Non-MF NS60LS (Type B) = also not yet can be found easily
3rd Choice = Panasonic non-MF/MF NS60LS (Type B) (45AH / 439CCA) = MF sells at PJ, but current battery unreliable to travel that distance (KIV-Not sure worth it or not)
4th Choice = Century Ultramax MF NS60LS (55AH / 434CCA) / (Not sure if have non-MF model)  = Store Located Nearby, Ultramax Power seems so tempting
5th Choice = If I can ever get RAMCAR battery back, it's quite reliable all the way with Alarm On Still can make it for 3Year 6 Month

So tomorrow may be the last finalize date to pick which battery will be nominated  blink.gif
Need to change immediately for my working usage... Hope I make a right choice  icon_rolleyes.gif
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I got my Yuasa batt from here.

http://carbattery.com.my/index.asp?p=/stat...teries-all.html

Hope this help.
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post Jul 5 2018, 09:53 AM

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QUOTE(scorgio @ May 7 2018, 09:40 PM)
Avoid the brand KOBA.

I bought one Dec 2016, by Mac 2017, it can't hold charge d. After turn off engine, the voltage will drop to 7V. Ok, the shop replaced a new unit for me.

The 2nd unit, after 2 mths, 1 day I smell fumes while inside the car, I opened the boot & saw the battery smoking (acid fumes coming out of the exhaust holes), a sign of overcharging/overheating. Went back to the shop, tested the alternator output extensively, constant 14V. The salesman from KOBA insisted it's my car's charging system. I said there's no problem when I put in battery from other brand.

Fine, KOBA dealer replaced 1 more new unit to me. This time, I don't dare to put inside my car d. Keep in store for 3 mths. Then around Nov 2017, I installed it into another car after charging it full. This car was driven only like 1-2 times a month. During Apr 2018, the batt was low on charge, the car was not started for a month. Took the batt out to charge. It can't go beyond 60%. When I unplug the charger, it's at 12.5V, the next morning it'll drop below 12V. Test with batt analyzer, test result "please replace battery".
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agree that KOBA sucks, my car with new alternator+grounding cables , no on alarm daily and drive often etc also kong ngam ngam one year. mega_shok.gif

Yokohama average as last like 14 months

So far my Amaron pro 1 year already but still strong
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QUOTE(ZeroSP @ Apr 29 2018, 03:20 PM)
I can vouch for Varta because cars in my household that uses Varta all manages to last 4.5 to 5 years.

Some of them are on Amaron in which still only in second year so yet to conclude.

If you decide to go Amaron, at least get the hi-life or even better hi-life pro. No point going the basic Go version.

Same goes to Varta, aim for at least Blue Dynamic or better Silver Dynamic. For NS40, you can only choose black or silver EFB, since the mid grade Blue doesn’t offer this size.

Panasonic, if you can find the CAOS series, can go for it too.

Other than that, Yuasa Eco-R series is good too.
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The next battery I will go for Varta or Amaron Hi-life/ pro

The first one in my VW was about 1y 4m, I've checked my Second VW OeM EFB lasted also about 1year and 4 months too (when SC told me the Voltage is low and recommended me to change) Ironically, at least there was some consistency there... I think one problem is the heat from the TSI engine, the fan always run after engine turned off, maybe should go for AGM

Must try other brand instead of following SC blindly.

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QUOTE(netmatrix @ May 31 2016, 09:56 PM)
Oh yeah. 2 months ago i saw this expensive battery in a Exora. Cost around RM1K i think. Upon researching it was for engines with start stop feature. Like hybrid engines. But i dunno why the guy bought this kind of battery for his car. Anyone using such batteries?
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I think that's AGM battery / or gel type of battery, literally dry battery. ZeroSP is selling that
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QUOTE(liquid.D @ Jul 5 2018, 06:56 AM)
Yeah Indeed, problem is my current car battery look like unreliable to travel to SC like in section 13 (reliable and mostly will have stock), afraid 1/2 way make problem...

- You always get new Ramcar from SC when you sent for service?

* Btw now I saw another Amaron they said in some forum "Really Last Long", so now I wondering if good to explore it or not... anyone use amaron NS60 type?
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Ive used 4 batteries so for my 9 years old saga BLM. Ramcar - century marathoner - century marathoner - back to ramcar. 1st ramcar last for 3 and a half years and both century only last for around 2 years.
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QUOTE(outpace @ Jul 5 2018, 09:58 AM)
I think that's AGM battery / or gel type of battery, literally dry battery. ZeroSP is selling that
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Yup, in the thousand RM ranges definitely is AGM.

EFB is only in hundreds RM. In which, already pretty strong enough for non idling-stop vehicle. I am using EFB in my car which is non idling-stop, that's the best available for NS60 at the moment.


Why use idling stop battery is a non idling stop vehicle? Not only EFB and AGM is designed to withstand the extra cycle, but the stronger grids of EFB, and also the the superior design of AGM benefits from improved charge acceptance from alternator, as well as way lower self discharge compared to normal SLI battery. Test it with battery tester and you can see, a NS40 EFB (M42) rated 400CCA, with yield 600 over CCA in real, and so on.

This post has been edited by ZeroSP: Jul 5 2018, 12:54 PM
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QUOTE(akira87 @ Jul 5 2018, 12:05 PM)
Ive used 4 batteries so for my 9 years old saga BLM. Ramcar - century marathoner - century marathoner - back to ramcar. 1st ramcar last for 3 and a half years and both century only last for around 2 years.
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RAMCAR from Proton is surprisingly good as a stock offering battery to be honest. Way better than those Thailand made GS.
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QUOTE(ZeroSP @ Jul 5 2018, 12:50 PM)
Yup, in the thousand RM ranges definitely is AGM.

EFB is only in hundreds RM. In which, already pretty strong enough for non idling-stop vehicle. I am using EFB in my car which is non idling-stop, that's the best available for NS60 at the moment.
Why use idling stop battery is a non idling stop vehicle? Not only EFB and AGM is designed to withstand the extra cycle, but the stronger grids of EFB, and also the the superior design of AGM benefits from improved charge acceptance from alternator, as well as way lower self discharge compared to normal SLI battery. Test it with battery tester and you can see, a NS40 EFB (M42) rated 400CCA, with yield 600 over CCA in real, and so on.
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yup, but the VW brand EFB for my idling stop car lasted only 1y 4m

have to go for AGM? Din55 / Din66 how much is that?

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QUOTE(outpace @ Jul 5 2018, 01:25 PM)
yup, but the VW brand EFB for my idling stop car lasted only 1y 4m

have to go for AGM? Din55 / Din66 how much is that?
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VW stock EFB is Varta Black Dynamic range, so it's the basic spec only.

AGM is expensive but last really long, so far the shortest life I have seen is 8 years in a BMW, which is quite a electronic heavy car.

Pm-ed by the way.

This post has been edited by ZeroSP: Jul 5 2018, 02:54 PM
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i do my own 12V lithium battery for car now ....
experiment start end last month, first battery will be try on my bike 12v 7ah ...
if work out well, i go for my car, soon ...

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