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 Proper Pre and Post Workout Nutrition, Very Important!!

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post Mar 24 2009, 02:17 AM

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Yolk is good, but too much of it have negative impact on the body.

Mainly, the argument goes around that yolk contains high cholestrol and fats. but the fats in yolk is healthy plus all the vitamins.

I think the most number of yolk we can consume a day is three. For egg whites, any number biggrin.gif

Anyway, wad do you guys think about eating raw eggs?
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post Mar 24 2009, 08:12 AM

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eating raw egg might get Salmonella
some more might cause biotin deficiency
http://whfoods.org/genpage.php?tname=dailytip&dbid=71

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post Mar 24 2009, 09:20 PM

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Used to whack 2 whole eggs, 3 egg whites. Now 1 whole egg, 4 egg whites.

Because during dinner time, I will whack the same thing. So total 2 whole eggs. laugh.gif
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post Mar 24 2009, 10:15 PM

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QUOTE(XmT @ Mar 24 2009, 08:12 AM)
eating raw egg might get Salmonella
some more might cause biotin deficiency
http://whfoods.org/genpage.php?tname=dailytip&dbid=71
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strongly agree with this.
Always cook your eggs in someway or another.

People who regularly consume eggs(BBers) have a high chance of catching one or two of these bacterias by consuming too many raw eggs.

Besides, there a tonnes of ways to prepare eggs making them less boring to consume compared to just chugging down raw eggs all the time smile.gif
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post Mar 25 2009, 01:41 AM

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from where did you get your facts regarding bodybuilders eating raw eggs?
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post Mar 25 2009, 08:13 AM

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QUOTE(zeist @ Mar 24 2009, 09:20 PM)
Used to whack 2 whole eggs, 3 egg whites. Now 1 whole egg, 4 egg whites.

Because during dinner time, I will whack the same thing. So total 2 whole eggs. laugh.gif
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Me too, the bio value or so the absorption index of egg is very high,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biological_Value
Common foodstuffs and their values:Note: These values use "whole egg" as a value of 100, so foodstuffs that provide even more nitrogen than whole eggs, can have a value of more that 100. 100, does not mean that 100% of the nitrogen in the food is incorporated into the body, and not excreted, as in in other charts.

Whey protein concentrate: 104
Whole egg: 100
Cow milk: 91
Beef: 80
Casein: 77
Soy: 74
Wheat gluten: 64

ooh, eat your eggs


Added on March 25, 2009, 8:16 am
QUOTE(tineagle @ Mar 24 2009, 10:15 PM)
strongly agree with this.
Always cook your eggs in someway or another.

People who regularly consume eggs(BBers) have a high chance of catching one or two of these bacterias by consuming too many raw eggs.

Besides, there a tonnes of ways to prepare eggs making them less boring to consume compared to just chugging down raw eggs all the time smile.gif
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yeah, always look at the long term, eating raw egg will brutalizes your health in the long run,
bodybuilding is based on health, without a good immune system, chances are you won't get the result you want:D

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post Apr 4 2009, 07:10 PM

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QUOTE(LostInTr4nmission @ Dec 29 2006, 12:19 PM)
Eating fast food 3-4 times a week is a big no no. Try to avoid as much as possible. Maybe once a week or once a fortnight?
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i eat fast food everyday
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post Apr 4 2009, 08:39 PM

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QUOTE(BallsBuilder @ Apr 4 2009, 07:10 PM)
i eat fast food everyday
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why?its high calories and fat blush.gif
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post Apr 4 2009, 09:16 PM

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QUOTE(ClarkFann @ Apr 4 2009, 08:39 PM)
why?its high calories and fat blush.gif
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Actually, if checking the calorie value, it's maybe not too bad in calories. But the fat is really really high.


Added on April 4, 2009, 9:23 pmThe other thing that nutritionist worldwide are agreeing to is that foods eaten in a certain ingredient combination will be digested differently than when it was eaten alone.

How this works is not clearly not and research is being done on it, trying to understand it better. One nation that is under scrutiny is Japan, especially men in their 40s and 50s who are under a lot of stress, have hypertension. are heavy smokers, less physically active, eat a lot of eggs and have one of the highest cholesterol intakes in the world. And yet, there is no sharp increase in heart diseases. So they're looking at the Japanese diet and suspecting that it's coming from the high intake of fish and the omega-3 fat from those fish.

I got this little tidbit from another book that I'm starting to read. "The Japan Diet" by Naomi Moriyama. Makes interesting reading. They have a website http://www.thejapandiet.com .

Mind you, my thoughts and approach to dieting changes a lot based on new material read or whatever I'm researching at the moment.

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post Apr 4 2009, 10:07 PM

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QUOTE(myremi @ Apr 4 2009, 09:16 PM)
Actually, if checking the calorie value, it's maybe not too bad in calories. But the fat is really really high.


Added on April 4, 2009, 9:23 pmThe other thing that nutritionist worldwide are agreeing to is that foods eaten in a certain ingredient combination will be digested differently than when it was eaten alone.

How this works is not clearly not and research is being done on it, trying to understand it better. One nation that is under scrutiny is Japan, especially men in their 40s and 50s who are under a lot of stress, have hypertension. are heavy smokers, less physically active, eat a lot of eggs and have one of the highest cholesterol intakes in the world. And yet, there is no sharp increase in heart diseases. So they're looking at the Japanese diet and suspecting that it's coming from the high intake of fish and the omega-3 fat from those fish.

I got this little tidbit from another book that I'm starting to read. "The Japan Diet" by Naomi Moriyama. Makes interesting reading. They have a website http://www.thejapandiet.com .

Mind you, my thoughts and approach to dieting changes a lot based on new material read or whatever I'm researching at the moment.
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i see,awesome!i had always researching those nutrition info,but i cant obey all of it doh.gif
r u a dietician? hmm.gif tongue.gif
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post Apr 4 2009, 10:38 PM

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1) let say, we have been taking protein, etc for several month, then we stop consume it... will it effect our muscle growth???...

2) if not taking raw egg, then how to cook the white eggs?...

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thanx in advance... biggrin.gif...
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post Apr 4 2009, 10:57 PM

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1. why do you want to stop taking protein. You don't want to eat fish /chicken / beef / egg ? That is protein also.

2. Boil to take the egg white only. Else it will be harder to separate egg white and egg yolk
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post Apr 4 2009, 11:56 PM

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QUOTE(ClarkFann @ Apr 4 2009, 10:07 PM)
i see,awesome!i had always researching those nutrition info,but i cant obey all of it doh.gif
r u a dietician? hmm.gif  tongue.gif
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Nah, I'm not a dietician or nutritionist. I'm just an overweight gal who is finally getting serious about weight loss although I've tried different fad diets over the years.

Atm, I've been researching about proper eating, nutrition, supplements, balance dieting since Feb 09. Well, a bit more seriously than I ever did before. Plus, I'm checking out diets for ppl who have problems e.g. high blood pressure (which I'm suffering from now), diabetes, etc.

The hardest bit was doing all the cross-referencing and even accepting certain viewpoints even from people here. ATM, it's very hard to tell truth from fiction because of the different viewpoints and approaches around the world. So it takes awhile to understand it and even know whether what is written is correct or not. Helps with critical thinking though http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Critical_thinking).

And trying to stay sane and rational and calm and reasonable through this entire process is extremely taxing.


Added on April 5, 2009, 12:12 am
QUOTE(muamua @ Apr 4 2009, 10:38 PM)
2) if not taking raw egg, then how to cook the white eggs?...
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Different ways.

Stir-fry with veggies. I like them with cucumber. Very nice.

Steam with prawn + spring onions. Yummy.

Steam with mince pork. (non-halal).

Stir fry with strips of chicken and pounded lankuas root. My favourite.

You could try making chawan mushi : the Japanese steam egg.

Just google "Egg White Recipe" and there should be a lot more than what I've just posted.

Although, if you were exercising regularly and rigorously, you could eat the yolk and not have your cholesterol shoot up. The yolk has vitamins + minerals that are useful. iamyuan may have more info about that than I do.


Added on April 5, 2009, 12:19 am
QUOTE(kurtkob78 @ Apr 4 2009, 10:57 PM)
2. Boil to take the egg white only. Else it will be harder to separate egg white and egg yolk
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Although, a really nice salad dressing is with the cooked egg yolk mashed with a bit of Dijon mustard (1/4 teaspoon or to taste), low-fat mayo (like 1/2 teaspoon) and some pepper. Mix it all up and voila, you have a very nice dressing for salads.


Added on April 5, 2009, 12:19 amngah, how to get the youtube videos up? - Postnote : FIXT.

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muamua
post Apr 5 2009, 08:49 PM

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QUOTE(kurtkob78 @ Apr 4 2009, 10:57 PM)
1. why do you want to stop taking protein. You don't want to eat fish /chicken / beef / egg ? That is protein also.

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sory, wut i meant was, if i stop taking protein powder... will it effect my muscle growth?...
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post Apr 5 2009, 08:58 PM

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Muamua,
It will not affect muscle growth if you take your protein from other sources such as eggs, milk, meat, fish, chicken, cheese, peanut butter, soy, etc.

It will affect muscle growth if you don't take enough protein from other sources. 1g of protein daily per pound of your body weight --> for muscle growth.
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im drinking weigt gain powder but seems no gaining at all.is there any special instruction to get it effective.
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post Apr 30 2009, 10:00 AM

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QUOTE(zakura_spirit @ Apr 29 2009, 02:32 AM)
im drinking weigt gain powder but seems no gaining at all.is there any special instruction to get it effective.
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to make it simple,

jz by taking the powder and no exercise, the weight u will gain is fat...

while doing some exercise give u muscle weight...


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post May 11 2009, 10:40 AM

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i've been working out at night after dinner (because i gotta work during the day). i've just started taking ON 100% whey, for pre-workout (whey+oats) and post-workout (whey+glucolin+oats).

however, during the night, i'm having real trouble sleeping, like getting a really good rest. it's either i take a really long time to fall asleep or i'll wake up after 5 hours or so automatically and will have trouble going back to sleep again.

i think i've pretty much narrowed it down to the whey, as i've worked out before during the night without whey intake for pre and post workout, and i had no trouble sleeping. also i've tried eliminating glucolin and the oats from the equation to see if they were the ones causing this, and i still have the same problem.

on days when i don't consume whey, i sleep perfectly. so it seems like the whey is causing this.
the whey flavour that i'm consuming at the moment is cookies and cream.

is this common?

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post May 11 2009, 10:47 AM

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I dont think food you took was the cause of your sleeping issues cos they should not be. Maybe you need to show your diary of diet for medical consultation. Sleeping issues could be caused by many reasons, just not those what u said you took

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post May 11 2009, 11:00 AM

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QUOTE(secretsquirrel @ May 11 2009, 10:47 AM)
I dont think food you took was the cause of your sleeping issues cos they should not be.  Maybe you need to show your diary of diet for medical consultation.  Sleeping issues could be caused by many reasons, just not those what u said you took
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yeah, i understand that sleeping issues could be caused by many reasons, but the reason why i narrowed down to whey was because i've only started taking whey recently, and before this i have never had any sleeping issues.

here's a short summary of what happened:
last tuesday i worked out at night, and i took whey during post, and then i had trouble sleeping.
then saturday i worked out, but in the morning, but i didn't have any issues sleeping later at night.
last night, i decided to take one serving, with milk, for recovery overnight (sorry, no casein supplements yet sad.gif ), and then i had trouble sleeping again.

now i'm pretty zombie-like at the moment, as you can imagine, haha.

so far, it has only happened twice, so i'm not sure if it's enough to correlate insomnia with whey. although, the 2 times seems to have the whey involved though.

as for my diet, pretty standard. 4 meals a day, excluding snacks in between. have been observing the same diet before without any insomnia. the only thing that stands out in my diet for yesterday only was i had 2 cups of coffee in the afternoon, but i doubt that would affect my sleep coz it never had before. or at least i hope it didn't, coz i love my coffee sad.gif



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