guys, Malaysia trained IT staffs are better than India's.

I'm not bluffing here, most reputable companies actually prefer Malaysia more than India, because of education level in Malaysia.

However India is cheaper than Malaysia, so this year gonna be a hard year for all Oil n Gas companies, so Shell IT have no choice but move to India to cut cost.

When it comes to IT & Support in ASEAN, always SG > MY > PH > IN

because if compared India's IT workers with Malaysia IT workers, there's a gap.

company who get used to the skill level of Malaysia IT workers will disappointed if using India's one.

But for those Indian who really study abroad and have hands on experience, they are better than Malaysia's due to our limitation is exposure.

Maybe Shell will cut their fixed allowances

my point of view: Malaysia IT workers are stable and well educated. But our skill still not the worldwide level yet.

Because India do not limit their citizens to freely receive knowledge from the west, but it is kinda taboo here in Malaysia. Most of our ministers doesn't even care much on education and research and knowledge, our education system basically re-use something good from 20 years ago.

So that's why you'll notice there's almost no IT brand / company that is coming from Malaysia.

We'll be a very good IT supporter, but we will not able to become IT innovator.

So despite India is very unstable in their IT education, but looking in long term, they will have more advantage than us ... just not currently.


Actually this is the exact reason why Malaysia always lack behind of countries who started at the same level. Have you ever noticed it is ALWAYS Malaysian who leave Malaysia will become Hulk broke the chains and start to shine in foreign countries?

Ya, one of the best IT colleague I've met is also from Indian.

But unfortunately their education system still not as good as us, so everything is quite chaos there, you'll either see very good or very bad skill people there.

Speaking of programming skill since young, Malaysia produce one of the world most young hackers, and believe it or not, many LYN members can assemble PC machines with one eyes close without formal training, that is actually a skill not many possessed in this world.

And yet in Malaysia we felt it is very normal for everyone able to build their own personal computer, actually not that normal if you look at a worldwide perspective.

like I said before, we're fairly good but not until very good.

but consider this: One time I went to a British telecommunication for interview, they told me one of my task is to learn how their India's vendor analyze big data thru Microsoft Excel.

I said hold on first, ONE THING I NEED TO MAKE IT CLEAR, I definitely know there's no way Microsoft Excel can be a tool for big data transfer/analytic ... how is it even possible? MS Excel max can hold 1.4 millions records and it is fairly small for big data.

You know what the interviewer answered me: You are right and it is a basic common knowledge, unfortunately the India's vendor doesn't know that and they force to execute it with MS Excel. So they are kinda regret now.

So I rejected the offer, I know it's gonna shit to deal with this India's vendor who don't even know what are they doing.

I worked in 2 of the companies before.

First, Fusionex is just an IT vendor + supporter, there's no innovative required behind.

And the rest are just portal and website that involves no innovative.

I dunno bout others, but Fusionex, iProperty, Jobstreet always having trouble to find recruitment as people resign very fast.

The reason I know there's no proper IT innovator in Malaysia because I've worked with them.

No, they are not, they are just selling business online, web portal, or provide IT support. Which is fairly basic, we do not reach 'that' level yet to invent our own IT product.

Do you guys seriously consider the famous Lelong.com.my and Mudah.com.my as a very innovative Malaysia IT brand? (I dunno bout others but personally I don't)

my best IT colleague also from India. So I'm not surprised at all.

But I've work with many of them, so I know you are either get a good one or a very bad one.

if you don't want heart attack, I'll still advice people hire 4 Malaysians instead of 1 India.

wait, I'm not discriminate anyone or blindly support Malaysia. I'm just speaking from my experience.

And to be honest, many Malaysian IT can actually code, manage the server, do testing and draft the process with no problem, just that we don't want to spoil the job market. and that especially easily noticed in government sector, have you ever see government website? it is not that good (no offense), India IT worker will be doing better than those government IT officers.

If you wanna see real Malaysia IT workers standard, open jobstreet.com.my (then go to their signup page), it is 100% done by Malaysia IT workers in private company ... locally. Which is quite good (but don't expect wow)

myteksi is a service provider copy something already exists.

just like jobstreet, iproperty, imoney.

they are more towards eService more than IT innovator.

when I was worked in one of those companies, my colleagues always debate whether they are really an IT company, because their business nature doesn't seem directly related to IT. They are just doing business online. So whenever we need to classify our company, we always have a headache.

that's why we IT workers always wonder why we don't have an IT company that sells Malaysia brand software or Malaysia brand hardware.

the list you mentioned are very high end technology lar.

even myself also wish to do it someday in future.

but it is not easy, don't say Malaysia, many countries also cannot produce it.

because they have not received proper training on how to standardize their coding and collaborate their coding with another programmer. (which most of the fresh grad have this mistake coz uni/college did not teach that)

i aware that too when i'm reading their coding.

but what can i blame, not everyone in their country can receive proper IT training.

so I've decide not to go thru programming coding from India anymore, I'll just say no. Not that I've anything against them, it just that I find it too difficult to read untrained coding style. or you guys can consider me as stupid if you want to