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 PROTON SAGA BLM, FL & FLX Thread V67, U haz CVT Falcon PUNCH liao?

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Aquariusdenz
post Mar 1 2015, 11:43 PM

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My Gaga, did 29k km only.. bought it on 2013 (but its a 2012 stock, got discount mah), now got somesort of humming noise from the wheel following car speed lately.. sound like "wooo~~" still using stock rim.. i suspect its wheel bearing, but i doubt it because i only did 29k km, however i wont exclude that possibility.. i cant bring the car to sc on next coming week due to working.. or maybe its due to hardening tyres? hmm.gif
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post Mar 2 2015, 12:33 PM

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QUOTE(iskazulka @ Mar 2 2015, 08:30 AM)
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Yes mine is FLX. How much will it cost to change the bearing? Not under warranty?
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post Mar 2 2015, 12:52 PM

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QUOTE(drfeelgood @ Mar 2 2015, 12:47 PM)
Bearings, wheel alignments, clutch etc... wear and tear item.

No warranty le
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Ok let say i have to spend money to fix it, what should i do to make it last longer?
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post Mar 2 2015, 05:33 PM

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QUOTE(TitanRev @ Mar 2 2015, 01:18 PM)
BUy the bearing from bearing shop...can get less than 100/pc and send to workshop do...please refer last thread.
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Luckily, went to SC just now, its still under warranty. Thank god. icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Mar 2 2015, 08:41 PM

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QUOTE(plain_white @ Mar 2 2015, 06:08 PM)
Hi, to all the sifus here...
I noticed that my FLX car's horn is suddenly not functioning. Planning to take it to repair when I'm free. In the meantime I'm just wondering is there any way that i can DIY without taking it to mechanics? (Like checking on loose cable etc)
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Change to snail horns.. brows.gif

PS: should be honk.. laugh.gif

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post Mar 4 2015, 11:33 PM

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QUOTE(tysmiracle @ Mar 4 2015, 07:43 PM)
May I ask, my saga flx 2012 standard, idk why recently after I lock my car at night and go to sleep. The time between 11pm to 8am the alarm will go off, I go sc (puchong) the foreman like don't even know what he is doing, he say my car metal morning hot kembang, night cold so censor lost touch, so he deactivated my front bonnet censor but problem still persist. Anyone had any idea?
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Check if the alarm "brain" is connected properly or not. My Saga friend (or friend's Saga) also faced similar problem. His case was the remote signal is veeeryyy weak, he need to get very near until can touch the car that kind of near baru the alarm can receive the signal from the remote.
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post Mar 8 2015, 10:29 AM

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A little update to share with you guys, I just changed one of my car's rear wheel bearing and of course no more humming noise. rclxm9.gif
Meanwhile I was at the SC, I asked my friend (my friend work at SC) to update the ECU firmware, but he updated the TCU firmware at the same time. My car is a Saga FLX CVT Executive. At first, the improvements are not noticeable when I drove out of the SC, but can notice a slight improvements on the throttle respond. However once I hit a traffic jam, I quickly notice the jerky of the car during low speed had significantly reduced to almost non, near to torque converter. I previously curse the CVT jerky-ness to death, but after this update, I start to love the car again. biggrin.gif CVT users here, maybe you can have a try to update your ECU and TCU firmware. nod.gif
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post Mar 8 2015, 02:17 PM

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QUOTE(n3w @ Mar 8 2015, 01:21 PM)
Is this your first time updating ecu?

There is an update some time back to solve the idle jerky issue. That was the only time i went to sc to update. After that has been bawah pokok service already. biggrin.gif
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This is the 2nd time i did the update. Well, one more year to go before i finish warranty and service bawah pokok. Try to claim everything within one year. flex.gif
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post Mar 9 2015, 05:47 PM

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QUOTE(DonMe @ Mar 9 2015, 05:13 PM)
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Gaga now can fly... Up into the trees..
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Wow.. Gaga fly higher than godcar.. somemore mayvi previously saying: "Fly to the moon also can" on radio never actually fly higher than gaga.. rclxms.gif
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post Mar 10 2015, 02:17 PM

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QUOTE(sharkz07 @ Mar 10 2015, 01:50 PM)
guys..is it normal for flx cvt gearbox when gear in P or N when you press throttle pedal rpm only can go to 3k?
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Absolutely normal.

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post Mar 11 2015, 12:02 PM

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Talking about CVT, anyway to improve throttle respond? The worth mods. So far i only did one grounding cable to the engine. And one more think, the exhaust seems quite noisy during acceleration around 2.25k rpm, let say modding the exhaust can improve the sound to a better tone? hahaha..
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post Mar 19 2015, 10:02 PM

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QUOTE(isildur88 @ Mar 19 2015, 08:42 PM)
my CVT light came up just now... cry.gif  cry.gif  cry.gif  cry.gif  cry.gif
car can still drive but sked la... how much ya to repair? damn panic now dah la bulan tua....  cry.gif  cry.gif  cry.gif

Edit - For the past 3 days ive been using SAT and race2 alot. can this be the cause?
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Third brake light burn or not? ph34r.gif
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post Mar 22 2015, 08:49 PM

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Today my Gaga shows new issue. The driver side lock doesnt "go down" when i arm the alarm, all other three doors will go down except the driver side. The "gun" kaput? blink.gif

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post Mar 22 2015, 09:32 PM

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QUOTE(Maxwell6635 @ Mar 22 2015, 09:30 PM)
door central lock rosak  smile.gif
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ada cover under warranty kah? blink.gif or should i just buy the parts and change it myself?
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post Mar 25 2015, 06:59 PM

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QUOTE(Nerox @ Mar 25 2015, 12:18 PM)
hi @Aquariusdenz about the humming sound, my car oso the same. my rear tyre sudah berombak ohh. same problem ka?
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You may try to switch your suspected tyre to the front and front to rear to see if any difference. Because sometime it might be hardened old tyres which causing the noise like what happened to my Kancil. smile.gif
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post Mar 27 2015, 02:59 PM

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Hi all taiko.. want to ask isit true ABL (auto brake lock) not suitable for Flx CVT?
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post Apr 3 2015, 02:31 PM

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QUOTE(zacharnie @ Apr 1 2015, 09:03 AM)
Need expert advise, I'm using Saga 1.3 FLX manual 5 months old with 5.4Km , earlier while parking the car in the office it suddenly stopped the engine . Tried to start up the engine it cranks but engine won't statup up =( 
-All lights working
-battery light is ok
-engine cranks

But still no response.. any help is appreciated..
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Sometime my car having similar problem, but mine engine not suddenly stopped. Its like when i bring girls go for a tea, after done tea time, press remote teet-teet unlock car, ready to show drifting skills, then when i crank the car it wont start, so embarrassing. For my Gaga, if i keep cranking without turning off the key like someone mentioned, it wont start no matter how long i crank. I found out whenever i faced this problem, i just turn off the key, look at my watch and count for 30 seconds, then try again, VOILA!! It started. blink.gif This is the only way works for my Gaga. biggrin.gif
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post Apr 29 2015, 12:31 AM

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QUOTE(tysmiracle @ Apr 28 2015, 12:41 PM)
Hey, quick question what you guys recommend or choose, engine oil change, semi-synthetic 10w-40, castrol, shell, mobile. Which brand would you guys prefer if use on saga flx 1.3 2012
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Tried Petronas oil from SC, Idemitsu and now Castrol Magnatec. Previously I use Shell on other car, havent reach 5000km already felt heavy, so i wont pour Shell into my Gaga. Petronas more or less the same like Shell. Idemitsu not bad, still smooth after 5000km. Now testing Castrol, not yet try Mobil. mellow.gif
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post Apr 30 2015, 11:53 PM

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QUOTE(iskazulka @ Apr 29 2015, 09:50 AM)
your car is spoil brat.  whistling.gif same like it's owner  whistling.gif
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Hahaha.. why you say spoil brat? Well, its still the same price if I bring my own oil instead of the Petronas oil used by SC, so why not try other brands. biggrin.gif

QUOTE(TitanRev @ Apr 29 2015, 12:29 PM)
Try Torco or Rock Oil quite good..I want to try Millers.

Didn't use Petronas, Shell or Castrol so can't comment. I use until 7K max then will change or 3/5K if heavy driving.
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blink.gif Cant really spot any shop selling those oil you named. Well at least in my area. laugh.gif
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post May 12 2015, 09:19 PM

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QUOTE(davidke20 @ May 12 2015, 07:48 AM)
To reply u guys on my CVT experience. Yes indeed our Plotong GaGa Punch indeed will falcon punch. I can't brain how it make such huge difference between Hongda Shitty DSi / Inspaliah aka Lancer / Prebet IAFM. I know, having an "automatik" badge is supposed to feel auto, but unknowingly as a long tim MT driver, I kinda fall into GaGa CVT trap. Love the clutch punching sensation. I recalled my 1st experience in stole my father's kar key, my bro as an instructor guiding me on the pedals. I was told gradually release clutch pedal to an extend where the RPM start to drop, simultaneously increase gas pedal. I did marvelously on my 1st gear, when reaching speed for 2nd, here comes the "punch". Due to inexperience in handling so many things at the same time, I have trouble coordinating my gas/clutch pedal. I released my clutch pedal but forgot to gradually input my gas, so the car jerks 1 time and start to slow down. Out of panic, I quickly jap the gas pedal, off the car leap forward laugh.gif I was so scared the car will crash, quickly release the gas pedal doh.gif Again, the car slow down. Took me a minute(probably longer) of jerking back & forth to get to the right input volume of my gas pedal. I won't know exactly how that feels, will have to ask my bro to describe it when I see him laugh.gif

However, back to CVT. I think I handle it quite well with my lousy MT driving skill. laugh.gif I can roughly estimate when the clutch is engaging, when is the engine torque sending to the ground, when the ground feeding back torque to the transmission. To me, the "punch" is minimal or non-detectable. Won't know, I could be wrong! Maybe the few CVT GaGas I've driven is in extremely good condition, or my ex-company purchased those engineered from Williams FW15C laugh.gif But 1 thing for sure, the exhaust system if not being done properly, the "punch" could be significant. I had 1 short test drove a trade vehicle where customer unable to repay their loan, the car went for repo. It has an ever so loud exhaust pipe that will literally wake the entire KL up in the morning. As soon as I press the gas pedal, the car will be choking forward. It feels like carrying a 3 tons rock at the back where the car struggle to move forward. doh.gif After further inspection, to found it has no midbox, a horrible designed but good looking header with a straight flow small tube shaped Kancil muffler at the back.

As for any other CVT cars that I've driven, there's no "punch" at all, just like any other AT car without shiftshock at all laugh.gif Buttery smooth yo nod.gif
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Owning my CVT gaga for 2 years already, previously drove Datsun 120Y then a Kancil both manual, I can estimate the bitting point of the CVT clutch and apply the correct amount of throttle. However, my gf dont like the cvt because she dont like driving a manual car, I think somehow it is related to the clutch. I have no complain about the clutch type cvt on the gaga, but there are few issues.

1. During reverse on slight uphill, let of brake, just right before i apply throttle, aircond compressor kick in and the engine feels like stalling.
2. When im coming out of a junction, making sure there is enough space for me to enter the road and accelerate before the next car arrive the spot, then i happily press the throttle, suddenly aircond compressor kick in, car lost power and accelerate slower resulting me panic and press more throttle and rev to 3k.
3. Just when i want to accelerate, aircond compressor kick in and car jerk awhile then back to normal and accelerate.

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