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 PROTON SAGA BLM, FL & FLX Thread V67, U haz CVT Falcon PUNCH liao?

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post Feb 26 2015, 06:45 PM, updated 11y ago

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PROTON SAGA BLM, FL & FLX Thread V67


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Proud owners of Proton Saga BLM/FL/FLX in LYN
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Proton Saga FLX price and specifications
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Previous Proton Saga BLM Thread
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Review and Comparison
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Proton Saga BLM, FL & FLX Fuel Consumption by Fuelly
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NOTICE:

Prohibited Parts For Maintenance/Repair Works

All Proton Service Branches/Dealers are not allow to accept any job repairs or service request if the customer brings their own parts, accessories and lubricants.

Customer need to be advised to obtain and purchase all the above said mentioned items from Proton Edar in order to enjoy the 6 months or 10,000km for parts warranty, whichever comes first.

There is an inclusion for customers who bought their parts from Part Shoppe at PPCSB Glenmarie, only if the customer present the purchase invoice

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Car service guide for beginners:

Disclaimer: Parts price may change from time to time subject to Proton's discretion.

Q1: OMG OMG OMG! My car 1,000 km already. I am so excited for my first service, what should I do? OMG OMG OMG!

You should pay a visit to an authorized service center near you as soon as possible. Item to be taken are:

- Engine Oil (semi-synthetic) [RM 109]*
- Oil Filter [RMRM12.22]
- Oil Drain Gasket [RM3.32]

Optional:
- windscreen washer

Avoid (Can be taken if you have too much money or strike Toto):
- Magnatrap
- X1R engine treatment
- whatever treatment or booster they gonna offer to you

It is recommended to stick with an authorised Proton service center for the first three service since it is free (labor charge) and to prevent any complication from happening during warranty claims.

*Engine oil price may change from time to time subject to SC's discretion.

Q2: Should I do alignment and balancing on my first service? Can I do it under the tree?

If you have alignment and balancing issues during the 11- 999 km period of driving your car, hop over to a SC immediately and they will rectify it free of charge. Above 1,000km alignment and balancing is not covered under warranty so you may proceed to your trusted alignment and balancing sifu or just go do alignment under a coconut tree.

Q3: OMG OMG OMG! My car 5,000 km already. I am so excited for my second service, what should I do? OMG OMG OMG!

Refer <Q1>

Q4: What engine oil should I take? Mineral? Semi synthetic? Synthetic? Minyak masak cap petai?

Please do no use minyak masak cap petai although minyak masak cap pisau has some nutty aroma. They could be useful if you wish to fry an egg or a fish during traffic jam to cure your hunger but your engine will not receive any sufficient protection after 100 yards you poured the oil in.

Normally, it is recommended to take semi-synthetic since it offers benefits of fully synthetic at a fraction of a price. If fully synthetic price isn't an issue for you, you may go ahead and opt for it.

Q5: Can I take fully synthetic during the first three service (1,000 km, 5,000 km & 10,000 km)?

Although you can opt for fully synthetic for the three initial service, it is recommended to stick with semi-synthetic for the first two service (1,000 km & 5,000km). Reason is, both intervals are relatively short and therefore it is wasted if one opt to pour in fully synthetic. From 10,000km onwards, you may opt to pour in fully synthetic if your budget permits.
Q6: OMG OMG OMG! My car 10,000 km already. I am so excited for my third service, what should I do? OMG OMG OMG!

Refer <Q3>

Q7: OMG OMG OMG! My car 15,000 km already. I am so excited for my fourth service, what should I do? OMG OMG OMG!

You should pay a visit to an authorized service center near you as soon as possible. Item to be taken are:

- Engine Oil (semi-synthetic) [RM 109]*
- Oil Filter [RMRM12.22]
- Oil Drain Gasket [RM3.32]

Optional:
- windscreen washer

Avoid (Can be taken if you have too much money or strike Toto):
- Magnatrap
- X1R engine treatment
- whatever treatment or booster they gonna offer to you

Do note that from 15,000km onwards, you will be charged labour charge for every single service you do in a Proton authorized service center. For every normal servicing, the labour charged will be RM55.00*.

*Labour charge may change from time to time subject to Proton's discretion.

Q8: OMG OMG OMG! My car 20,000 km already. I am so excited for my fifth service, what should I do? OMG OMG OMG!

You should pay a visit to an authorized service center near you as soon as possible. Item to be taken are:

- Engine Oil (semi-synthetic) [RM 109]*
- Oil Filter [RMRM12.22]
- Oil Drain Gasket [RM3.32]
- Spark Plug [RM 38.00]
- Brake Fluid [RM70]
- Radiator Coolant [RM30.00]
- Air Filter [RM 16.71]

Optional:
- windscreen washer

Avoid (Can be taken if you have too much money or strike Toto):
- Magnatrap
- X1R engine treatment
- whatever treatment or booster they gonna offer to you

Labor charge: RM 100.00*

*Labour charge may change from time to time subject to Proton's discretion.

Q9: OMG OMG OMG! My car 20,000 km already. I am so excited for my fifth service, but after read Q8, I feel sadding liao coz not enuf money. Ayam sad sad.gif

Afraid not, you may skimp on a few item above and bring forward it to the 25,000km service.

You may choose either:

LYN Saga thread edisi tikus recommended package 1:

- Engine Oil (semi-synthetic) [RM 109]*
- Oil Filter [RMRM12.22]
- Oil Drain Gasket [RM3.32]
- Spark Plug [RM 38.00]
- Radiator Coolant [RM30.00]

skipped item to be brought forward to 25k km service: brake fluid & Air filter

or

LYN Saga thread edisi tikus recommended package 2:

- Engine Oil (semi-synthetic) [RM 109]*
- Oil Filter [RMRM12.22]
- Oil Drain Gasket [RM3.32]
- Brake Fluid [RM70]
- Air Filter [RM 16.71]

skipped item to be brought forward to 25k km service: spark plug & Radiator coolant

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Optional:
- windscreen washer

Avoid (Can be taken if you have too much money or strike Toto):
- Magnatrap
- X1R engine treatment
- whatever treatment or booster they gonna offer to you

Labor charge: RM 75.00* - RM100*

*Labour charge may change from time to time subject to Proton's discretion.

Disclaimer: Just dont go to the SC ans say "I want that LYN Saga thread edisi tikus recommended package 2 for my current service." They will look at you and say "Are you on crack or something?" Just tell them the item you want and don't want.

Q10: Refering to Q9, Why skip here and skip there one? Nanti kereta rosak how?

Brake fluid normally has a lifespan of two years, therefore an additional 5,000km will do no harm to the vehicle braking system.

Radiator coolant normally has a lifespan of two to three years, therefore an additional 5,000km will do no harm to the vehicle cooling system. Just remember, DO NOT ADD ONLY TAP WATER INTO YOUR VEHICLE COOLING SYSTEM!

The paper air filter fuction is to filter out huge particles such as sand, away from your intake chamber. As long as the air filter is still inside, an additional 5,000km will do no harm to the vehicle air intake system.

Normal copper core spark plugs can last up to 40,000km, therefore an additional 5,000km will do no harm to the vehicle ignition system.

Q11: Since the items above can last so long, why not I use it till the maximum lifespan?

While some items such as brake fluid and radiator coolant is fine to be used till its maximum lifespan, but it is recommended to do periodic check on both items (especially brake fluid) and replace it if it needed to. Never wait till any components to break down before changing them. When a component starts breaking down, chances are, it will "infect" other parts too.

As for high wear and tear item such as copper spark plug, they usually degrade after just 20,000km. Although it may still operate above 20,000km, but chances are, the sparks it ignite isn't big enough to make a full combustion and therefore, your car will start to feel sluggish and thirsty. It is just like calling an old marathon runner to run a 100m sprint race. Although he can still run, but probably he wont be able to run as fast during his younger days.

Q12: Who is V12Kompressor? Why should I trust you?

V12Kompressor is just a nobody who enjoy his time playing tikus game. In the end, it is up to your own common sense to decide what is right or wrong for your car. God grants you common sense. Use it.

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Recommended parts replacement interval by jaylim94

Note :
This is just suggestion by user of Saga. Not necessary to follow up everything but if you loves your car, please follow the interval replacement.
Oil = Fluid
*If using performance parts may depend on the suggested interval replacement.

Engine Oil* + Engine Oil Filter*:
Every 5,000 KM or 3 months whichever comes first.

Manual Transmission Oil
Every 50,000 KM or 2 years whichever come first.

Automatic Transmission Oil
Every 40,000 KM or 2 years whichever come first.

Continuously Variable Transmission (CVT) Oil + CVT Oil filter
Every 60,000 KM or 2 years whichever come first.
Every 40,000 KM or 2 years whichever come first for severe usage.

Engine Air Filter*, Spark Plugs*, Air Cond Blower Filter
Every 25,000 KM

Air Con Compressor Oil
Every 30,000 KM or 18 months whichever come first.

Brake Oil* + Power Steering Oil
Every 40,000 KM

Engine Coolant*
Every 30,000 KM or 1 years whichever come first

Timing Belt + Front End Auxiliary Drive (FEAD Belt)
Every 100,000 KM or 5 years whichever come first
OR
Every 80,000 KM or 4 years whichever come first

Fuel Filter
Every 60,000 KM or 3 years whichever come first

Check :
(Every Service or every 10,000 KM or everytime)
Foreman won't so free to check for you. You can check yourself since the car you drive the most. Somehow others part you need get help from foreman

Battery Performance
Brake Performance
Tires Condition
Wiper and Washer System
Signal Light / Brake Light / Headlamp
Operation of Horn
Seat Belts
Clutch
Power Window
Air Conditional Function
Coolant Hoses and System

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Transmission fluid compatibility chart

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credits to: TitanRev

CVT Transmission Service Instruction

https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?act=Atta...post&id=3808088

credits to: Maxwell6635

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CVT Transmission Service ESTIMATED price at Proton Edar Service Center

CVT Fluid [1Liter x 4bottles] = RM40x4 = RM160
CVT filter = RM 235.25
CVT labour charge = RM 60.00

Total: RM 455.25

Optional:
Transmission Gasket = RM 122.72

Total including optional: 577.97

*Part and labour price subject to change by Proton without prior notice
*As rough reference only. Not necessarily reflect 100% actual price charged by SC
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NEW CAR CHECKLIST

Check where applicable
Make sure that all the keys and remote controls are working.

Locks

Keyless Entry (Lock and unlock using remote)
Manual Entry (Lock and unlock using key)
Master Lock
Individual Lock
Alarm
Alarm reset switch

Windows

Power Windows(Check that the driver side auto window is working)
Windows control Lock

Electric Mirrors

Electric Mirrors Control ( Up, Down, Left & Right )

Console


Air-Conditioning
Fan Speeds
Rear Demister
Radio/CD/DVD Player
Steering controls

Switches

Headlights
Directional Signals
High Beam
Hazard Lights
Parking Lights
Tail Lights
Brake Lights
Fog Lamps
Interior light
Wiper (Make sure each speed is correct)
Wiper Spray
Horn

Dashboard

Dashboard lights come on when headlights are on
Information lights (eg. Parking brake ) are lit at relevant time
Check that odometer does not display excessive mileage

Transmission & Brakes

Smooth Gearshift
Automatic transmission
Shift Lock button
Footbrake
Handbrake

Things to look out for:
Test auto-transmission for shock while engaging gear.
Make sure that the brake has to be depressed to shift out of Park mode.
Make sure that the car can only start in Neutral or Park mode.

Other Interiors

Steering wheel properly aligned
Steering wheel adjusting lever
Bonnet release lever
Boot release lever
Fuel tank release lever
Check for stains and holes on seats
Seat adjuster (Forward, backward, recline)
Seat belts (Check that the Seat belts lock when pulled hard)
Check for scratches and dents on the trims
Rear Mirror
Glove box
Check for stains on carpets
Air-con vents (Check that they are able to move freely)
Speakers

Exterior

Check that car plate is correct
Check that body surface is free from dents and scratches.
Check that windows and windscreens are free from stains and scratches
Check that lights are clear and undamaged
Check that door handles are working
Check that tyres are free from holes and punctures
Check that rims are free from scratches
Check that the radio antenna is working
Check that fuel cap is secured

Under The Bonnet


Engine Oil level
Brake Fluid level
Battery Water level
Transmission Fluid level
Coolant level
Air-Conditioning gas level
Check engine compartment with any obvious defects and damage

Inside the Boot

Base board
Boot light
Tool kit
Spare tyre

Documentation

Road Tax
Certificate of insurance
Car owner manual

Miscellaneous

Check tyres pressure
All goodies promised are given

Stock Tint Measurement

Brand Safetint
UVR 99%
IRR 55%
VLT 60%
TSER tarak tau
Thickness 2 mil

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TiTies

Day:
Date:
Time: 9.30 PM onwards

Location: Restoran Al-Madina, Aked Esplanad, Bukit Jalil. (Near EA Autoworks)
GPS Coordinate: 3.061015, 101.676473



C U when I C U.

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[b]Day:[/b]
[b]Date:[/b]
[b]Time:[/b] 9.30 PM onwards

[b]Location:[/b] [url=https://www.google.com.my/maps/place/3%C2%B003'39.6%22N+101%C2%B040'35.3%22E/@3.061015,101.676473,19z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m2!3m1!1s0x0:0x0?hl=en]Restoran Al-Madina[/url], Aked Esplanad, Bukit Jalil. (Near EA Autoworks)
GPS Coordinate: 3.061015, 101.676473





Upcoming Event:

-NONE ATM-

Time:
Date:

Meetpoint 1
Meetpoint 2

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post Feb 28 2015, 08:45 PM

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Hi...New Ver 67!!. .Everyone! notworthy.gif

Not-so-good news...
But kinda expected...

Juz got this fr an x-colleague...

"Confirmed by friend who has a petrol station :

Ron97:2.25
Ron 95: 1.95
Diesel: 1.95.

Happy Weekend."
😛✌

ps. Congratz, TS & all who wub.gif Gagas!! rclxms.gif thumbup.gif

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QUOTE(zeone @ Feb 28 2015, 08:45 PM)
Hi...New Ver 67!!. .Everyone! notworthy.gif

Not-so-good news...
But kinda expected...

Juz got this fr an x-colleague...

"Confirmed by friend who has a petrol station :

Ron97:2.25
Ron 95: 1.95
Diesel: 1.95.

Happy Weekend."
😛✌

ps. Congratz, TS & all who wub.gif Gagas!! rclxms.gif thumbup.gif
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yep...everyone busy want to fill up tonight. all the petrol station long queue whistling.gif
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Congrats for new thread!
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post Feb 28 2015, 09:18 PM

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QUOTE(jsnkok @ Feb 28 2015, 08:59 PM)
Congrats for new thread!
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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Feb 28 2015, 09:28 PM)
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post Feb 28 2015, 09:41 PM

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QUOTE(zeone @ Feb 28 2015, 08:45 PM)
Hi...New Ver 67!!. .Everyone! notworthy.gif

Not-so-good news...
But kinda expected...

Juz got this fr an x-colleague...

"Confirmed by friend who has a petrol station :

Ron97:2.25
Ron 95: 1.95
Diesel: 1.95.

Happy Weekend."
😛✌

ps. Congratz, TS & all who wub.gif Gagas!! rclxms.gif thumbup.gif
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Bayar lebih for petrol...

Yup expected....

Especially after somebody with huge fake wig say she dandan rambut palsu also rm1200 per session...

So who pay for it?
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post Feb 28 2015, 09:43 PM

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First page flex.gif

Fuel gone up. cry.gif
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post Feb 28 2015, 09:47 PM

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They very clever choose a month with 28days to give you cheap petrol...

Then the next month which is 31 days... squeeze you with expensive petrol
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Congratz on V67!!! rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(matmoto5125 @ Feb 28 2015, 09:43 PM)
First page flex.gif

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still cheap. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(wkwong91 @ Feb 28 2015, 09:52 PM)
Congratz on V67!!!  rclxms.gif
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1+1 sia
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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Feb 28 2015, 09:52 PM)
still cheap.  tongue.gif
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post Feb 28 2015, 10:05 PM

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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Feb 28 2015, 09:53 PM)
fuyohh

1+1 sia
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Sudah lama lor. whistling.gif
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I've experienced 115+km for the first bar. Bantai like crazy that day. Ron97.
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QUOTE(akmalrosli @ Feb 28 2015, 11:37 PM)
I've experienced 115+km for the first bar. Bantai like crazy that day. Ron97.
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depending on road conditions n right foot though nod.gif
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QUOTE(athrunzaru @ Mar 1 2015, 12:49 AM)
depending on road conditions n right foot though nod.gif
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Main kejar kejar with my friends, both proton persona on our way to sepang circuit. Don't think I was light footed at that time. hmm.gif

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QUOTE(akmalrosli @ Mar 1 2015, 01:05 AM)
Main kejar kejar with my friends, both proton persona on our way to sepang circuit. Don't think I was light footed at that time.  hmm.gif
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Have ghost In your car.XD
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QUOTE(wkwong91 @ Feb 28 2015, 10:17 PM)
Sudah lama lor.  whistling.gif
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Front brake disc skimming or change 1 set of new rotor? Mine keep making noise cannot tahan already T.T where reliable of doing this with reasonable price thank you!! Help me out biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(tysmiracle @ Mar 1 2015, 11:07 AM)
Front brake disc skimming or change 1 set of new rotor? Mine keep making noise cannot tahan already T.T where reliable of doing this with reasonable price thank you!! Help me out biggrin.gif
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Buy new one... not too expensive. Skim also use how long?
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QUOTE(drfeelgood @ Mar 1 2015, 12:06 PM)
Buy new one... not too expensive. Skim also use how long?
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Anywhere U recommend with good workmanship and cheap?
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Hi all. Aku ada pertanyaan sikit ni. kEte aku tgglam banjit ari tu d klantan la. N aku hantar kat sc proton. Now sc tu cakap sebis utk cuci knderaan rm 1050, dia kata ni standing order daripada proton. Sapa2 bley calrify tak pasal kos baiki kereta banjir ni. Satu lagi sc cakap kete aku rosak kmputer board. Kos kmpter board ni 850 dia cakap.

Sapa2 bleh tolong tak?
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QUOTE(tysmiracle @ Mar 1 2015, 12:30 PM)
Anywhere U recommend with good workmanship and cheap?
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https://www.google.com.my/maps/place/Nasi+M...#33;6m1!1e1

Toms Auto Part. Carik tauke Ah Peng. Suh die kasi tukak trus. Xpaya skim. Cheebye rotor only 19mm, selepas skim tinggal 17mm lagi cepat bengkok. Suh die cek dulu apahai bunyik bising dulu, jgn bagitau mau tukak disc/buat skim. Nasihat sudah bagi manyak kali. Amik pertindakan, bukan asyik tanya. Klo tak mau penasihat aku, sendiri pi carik kedai sepepat/werksiop. Harge smua sudah kasi. Tanya 10 kali pon sama. Sekian.
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QUOTE(panglimanadzri @ Mar 1 2015, 12:59 PM)
Hi all. Aku ada pertanyaan sikit ni. kEte aku tgglam banjit ari tu d klantan la. N aku hantar kat sc proton. Now sc tu cakap sebis utk cuci knderaan rm 1050, dia kata ni standing order daripada proton. Sapa2 bley calrify tak pasal kos baiki kereta banjir ni. Satu lagi sc cakap kete aku rosak kmputer board. Kos kmpter board ni 850 dia cakap.

Sapa2 bleh tolong tak?
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Betol SC sakap. Sekira banjir, konfem ECU koyak. Klo BLM MT morah ciket, sekitar 500 sebab BLM model lama pakei 16bit komputer je. Yg FLX pakei 32bit, mahai ciket.
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The other day I saw Saga FLX with LED fog lamp with ring daytime LED similar to one like in new Exora. Looked super cun, any idea where I can get these fog lamp? Looked around online but couldn't find anything.
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QUOTE(akmalrosli @ Mar 1 2015, 12:37 AM)
I've experienced 115+km for the first bar. Bantai like crazy that day. Ron97.
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Not suprised. Meter bar fluctuate. Go calculate by km/l then only talk.
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My Gaga, did 29k km only.. bought it on 2013 (but its a 2012 stock, got discount mah), now got somesort of humming noise from the wheel following car speed lately.. sound like "wooo~~" still using stock rim.. i suspect its wheel bearing, but i doubt it because i only did 29k km, however i wont exclude that possibility.. i cant bring the car to sc on next coming week due to working.. or maybe its due to hardening tyres? hmm.gif
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congrats new teredddd biggrin.gif

btw, whats is the market price to sell gaga 2013 model now yea?
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btw, whats is the market price to sell gaga 2013 model now yea?
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Base on Kosong spec.

Direk owner sell/Retail around 25k. Trade in around 22k. If no buy kar from dealer straightaway sell to them, then 20k.

All prices listed above are base on full cash settlement, not including bank loan early settlement penalties and depreciation balance settlement. If you're on 9 years loan with 0 down payment, there's a chance that after sold the car you still owe the bank some 30k nod.gif
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Main kejar kejar with my friends, both proton persona on our way to sepang circuit. Don't think I was light footed at that time.  hmm.gif
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QUOTE(Aquariusdenz @ Mar 2 2015, 12:43 AM)
My Gaga, did 29k km only.. bought it on 2013 (but its a 2012 stock, got discount mah), now got somesort of humming noise from the wheel following car speed lately.. sound like "wooo~~" still using stock rim.. i suspect its wheel bearing, but i doubt it because i only did 29k km, however i wont exclude that possibility.. i cant bring the car to sc on next coming week due to working.. or maybe its due to hardening tyres?  hmm.gif
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sound like "wooo~~". if sound is getting noisier when increasing speed, surely it's wheel bearing. but still should go checked it up first before conlanfirm it's wheel bearing.
go to outside shop. no need go sc.
but yours flx iinm ady. blm/fl normal problem.
mine fl rear right bearing changed 3 1/2 year old car with 52k mileage.
wheel bearing is not directly related to mileage iinm.

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Detachable the rear wheel bearing, just like the front
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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Feb 25 2015, 02:50 PM)
Yes and no.

BLM/FL the spindle is separated from the bearing. It has the advantage of bearing replacement and cost effective for consumer. However, when bearing is not hard fixed into the spindle, chances are each time the bearing damaged, debris will be grinding through the spindle and make the shaft vulnerable over a long period(until bearing being replaced).

FLX(after 2nd batch), the spindle is 1 piece with the bearing built in. No your can't change the bearing only, must change the spindle together. Since the bearing is fixed inside the spindle, it doesn't get damage as often. You often heard BLM/FL/Savvy rear wheel bearing damaged very quickly, whilst never heard of their front bearing got problem. This is because, FLX is now using the similar type of bearing built in spindle. Disadvantage is, since the bearing is built in, if bearing damaged the whole piece of spindle will have to be replaced. Usually the costing is 2~3x of BLM/FL bearings.
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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Feb 25 2015, 03:21 PM)
No say better or no better. Having the newer FLX with the 1 piece bearing, you get less headache. The barang also tahan lama compare to the old type. But ofcourse, the trade off is more expansive compare to old model. The bright side of having the 1 piece bearing is, you save up time going to workshop change bearing every once in awhile. Not only the 1 piece bearing cost 2~3 times more than the normal bearing, it last 3~5 times longer than the normal bearing as well. So, you choose lar yawn.gif
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Bila tutup tingkap?XD
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Yes mine is FLX. How much will it cost to change the bearing? Not under warranty?
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rm300-400. check with SC first what's the problem. then ask them can claim or not.
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rm300-400. check with SC first what's the problem. then ask them can claim or not.
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Bearings, wheel alignments, clutch etc... wear and tear item.

No warranty le
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Bearings, wheel alignments, clutch etc... wear and tear item.

No warranty le
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Yes mine is FLX. How much will it cost to change the bearing? Not under warranty?
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BUy the bearing from bearing shop...can get less than 100/pc and send to workshop do...please refer last thread.
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BUy the bearing from bearing shop...can get less than 100/pc and send to workshop do...please refer last thread.
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Hi, to all the sifus here...
I noticed that my FLX car's horn is suddenly not functioning. Planning to take it to repair when I'm free. In the meantime I'm just wondering is there any way that i can DIY without taking it to mechanics? (Like checking on loose cable etc)
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Luckily, went to SC just now, its still under warranty. Thank god.  icon_rolleyes.gif
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Hi, to all the sifus here...
I noticed that my FLX car's horn is suddenly not functioning. Planning to take it to repair when I'm free. In the meantime I'm just wondering is there any way that i can DIY without taking it to mechanics? (Like checking on loose cable etc)
Thanks  notworthy.gif
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Check fuse liao
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Apa tutup tingkap. manyak free ah u?  whistling.gif
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QUOTE(plain_white @ Mar 2 2015, 06:08 PM)
Hi, to all the sifus here...
I noticed that my FLX car's horn is suddenly not functioning. Planning to take it to repair when I'm free. In the meantime I'm just wondering is there any way that i can DIY without taking it to mechanics? (Like checking on loose cable etc)
Thanks  notworthy.gif
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Change to snail horns.. brows.gif

PS: should be honk.. laugh.gif

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Check fuse liao
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Change to snail horns..  brows.gif

PS: should be honk..  laugh.gif
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Thanks...i think the wire to the horn become loose...the mechanic just touch touch a bit ok liao thumbup.gif
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Hi..

Just need clarification.. when is the time to change timing belt?

1. 80000km
2. 90000km
3. 120000km (as per service booklet)

What is FEAD?

my flx is already 80167km

Pls also advise the less expansive way for timing belt replacement.
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QUOTE(sai_is @ Mar 3 2015, 12:52 PM)
Hi..

Just need clarification.. when is the time to change timing belt?

1. 80000km
2. 90000km
3. 120000km (as per service booklet)

What is FEAD?

my flx is already 80167km

Pls also advise the less expansive way for timing belt replacement.
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between 80k-120k. check the timing belt condition first.
FEAD belt is aircond belt.
change at outside workshop. iinm change timing belt around rm3xx.xx.
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QUOTE(DuGalle @ Mar 1 2015, 06:46 PM)
The other day I saw Saga FLX with LED fog lamp with ring daytime LED similar to one like in new Exora. Looked super cun, any idea where I can get these fog lamp? Looked around online but couldn't find anything.
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sum are add on led strip ....
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QUOTE(sai_is @ Mar 3 2015, 11:52 AM)
Hi..

Just need clarification.. when is the time to change timing belt?

1. 80000km
2. 90000km
3. 120000km (as per service booklet)

What is FEAD?

my flx is already 80167km

Pls also advise the less expansive way for timing belt replacement.
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Get it changed as soon as once clocked 80k km and or above. Try not to stretch it too much. By right, it is still safe to use, but who knows? Getting the belt changed will only cost you some RM300~400. Breaking the belt may cost you the engine overhaul of RM2000. You decide. Remember to change the belt tensioner as well. It's a little expansive, some RM120 if not mistaken. Usually technician will ask you to skip that, but what if before your next belt change then the bearing koyak? It's a good chance you gotta spend another 200~300 to open up the timing belt and change the tensioner again doh.gif

QUOTE(iskazulka @ Mar 3 2015, 12:24 PM)
between 80k-120k. check the timing belt condition first.
FEAD belt is aircond belt.
change at outside workshop. iinm change timing belt around rm3xx.xx.
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Sudah la bukak, lagi mau cek? Trus tukak lar laugh.gif
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Sudah la bukak, lagi mau cek? Trus tukak lar laugh.gif
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sai_is don't you forget, timing belt is running even in idling. idling doesn't record mileage.
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QUOTE(DuGalle @ Mar 1 2015, 06:46 PM)
The other day I saw Saga FLX with LED fog lamp with ring daytime LED similar to one like in new Exora. Looked super cun, any idea where I can get these fog lamp? Looked around online but couldn't find anything.
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I think this is what u want. laugh.gif

http://www.lelong.com.my/satuga-blue-white...7-01-Sale-I.htm
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sum are add on led strip ....
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Hi all,
I want to fix in speaker in the front door panel..what size is it?
need additional accessories such as speaker bracket?
TQ
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Hi to all bros... Can u all guide me how to diy remove saga flx rear speaker? Especially the rear speaker plastic grill
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ex-knight rider.  wave.gif
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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Mar 3 2015, 02:01 PM)

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retired liao lo... except got sudden kick will balik again.... tongue.gif
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yalor  sleep.gif
sai_is don't you forget, timing belt is running even in idling. idling doesn't record mileage.
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Ha ha ha "sudah bukak" Davidke20

That sounds very naughty...
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Hi all,
I want to fix in speaker in the front door panel..what size is it?
need additional accessories such as speaker bracket?
TQ
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No need bracket,... opps i just forgot the size.

I changed last year. Tonite i go back n check 4 u. Ok?
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QUOTE(r3apers @ Mar 3 2015, 02:17 PM)
apa la ex-knight rider...
retired liao lo... except got sudden kick will balik again....  tongue.gif
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Neh. video sudah ada ma. whistling.gif
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hello guys.. may i know if can change rear brake drum to brake disc for flx se 1.6?
i'm thinking of getting one this month..
and one more thing if i use 205/45 r16 profile tyre sagat or not with daun pisang?
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i'm thinking of getting one this month..
and one more thing if i use 205/45 r16 profile tyre sagat or not with daun pisang?
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use 195/55/15 will rub daun pisang when full turn steering.
205/45/r16? hmm.gif
unless change to taxi spring or add spring buffer. iinm. summoning king davidke20 come come fast via LTE (i lost all gagaclopedia bookmark)

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""Continuously Variable Transmission (CVT) Oil + CVT Oil filter
Every 60,000 KM or 2 years whichever come first.
Every 40,000 KM or 2 years whichever come first for severe usage.""

it says that cvt oil is 60,000k over here, but what is the ideal KM to change? 20k 40k? or 60k is the best?
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""Continuously Variable Transmission (CVT) Oil + CVT Oil filter
Every 60,000 KM or 2 years whichever come first.
Every 40,000 KM  or 2 years whichever come first for severe usage. ""

it says that cvt oil is 60,000k over here, but what is the ideal KM to change? 20k 40k? or 60k is the best?
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40k if severe usage. if not severe usage, 60k la.
if u want every 10k also can. whistling.gif
want ideal one ka? bundarkan 40k & 60k = 50k. ideal. whistling.gif

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No need bracket,... opps i just forgot the size.

I changed last year. Tonite i go back n check 4 u. Ok?
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Been on -1.5 camber for close to 9 months now.

Tire thread still healthy. flex.gif

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Been on -1.5 camber for close to 9 months now.

Tire thread still healthy. flex.gif

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Fuiyohhh....

Yokohama C Drive 2 woooo! Nice!
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I sudah pakai C-Drive 2 for 2 years edi.

Both 14 and 15 inches. Both sizes also masuk track before.

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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Mar 3 2015, 10:10 PM)
I sudah pakai C-Drive 2 for 2 years edi.

Both 14 and 15 inches. Both sizes also masuk track before.
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QUOTE(iskazulka @ Mar 3 2015, 04:20 PM)
use 195/55/15 will rub daun pisang when full turn steering.
205/45/r16?  hmm.gif
unless change to taxi spring or add spring buffer. iinm. summoning king davidke20 come come fast via LTE (i lost all gagaclopedia bookmark)
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taxi spring ar? what brand are those ar?
flx can put in adjustable absorber or not?
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taxi spring ar? what brand are those ar?
flx can put in adjustable absorber or not?
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proride.
ada wang anything can.
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proride.
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credits to davidke20 use taxi spring
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woah so many gap ar. what tyre size is this 15?
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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Mar 3 2015, 09:58 PM)
Been on -1.5 camber for close to 9 months now.

Tire thread still healthy. flex.gif

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woah so many gap ar. what tyre size is this 15?
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15.
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15.
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no wonder look small. get bigger rim la bro brows.gif
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no wonder look small. get bigger rim la bro  brows.gif
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mine? 13" only whistling.gif
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no wonder look small. get bigger rim la bro  brows.gif
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Wah awesome bro thanks!

Saga knight rider also awesome.
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May I ask, my saga flx 2012 standard, idk why recently after I lock my car at night and go to sleep. The time between 11pm to 8am the alarm will go off, I go sc (puchong) the foreman like don't even know what he is doing, he say my car metal morning hot kembang, night cold so censor lost touch, so he deactivated my front bonnet censor but problem still persist. Anyone had any idea?
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iriz tered got 22 year old wimmin future car owner. i haz sad.
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QUOTE(tysmiracle @ Mar 4 2015, 07:43 PM)
May I ask, my saga flx 2012 standard, idk why recently after I lock my car at night and go to sleep. The time between 11pm to 8am the alarm will go off, I go sc (puchong) the foreman like don't even know what he is doing, he say my car metal morning hot kembang, night cold so censor lost touch, so he deactivated my front bonnet censor but problem still persist. Anyone had any idea?
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My advice, seriously.... (is not to bai vios... dun worry)

Go get the crappo proton alarm system changed,,.. super crappy alarm..
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QUOTE(tysmiracle @ Mar 4 2015, 07:43 PM)
May I ask, my saga flx 2012 standard, idk why recently after I lock my car at night and go to sleep. The time between 11pm to 8am the alarm will go off, I go sc (puchong) the foreman like don't even know what he is doing, he say my car metal morning hot kembang, night cold so censor lost touch, so he deactivated my front bonnet censor but problem still persist. Anyone had any idea?
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Attach back your front bonnet sensor , try check every single door switch . maybe it dont attach properly .
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anyone knows where to get the T-wrench for spark plug? the whole chrome T shape type?
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anyone knows where to get the T-wrench for spark plug? the whole chrome T shape type?
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QUOTE(drfeelgood @ Mar 4 2015, 07:52 PM)
My advice, seriously.... (is not to bai vios... dun worry)

Go get the crappo proton alarm system changed,,.. super crappy alarm..
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Hahah thank you, I also scared U ask me bai vios hahahah ^^ me no $$$$
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QUOTE(Maxwell6635 @ Mar 4 2015, 08:18 PM)
Attach back your front bonnet sensor , try check every single door switch . maybe it dont attach properly .
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Thanks I'll go try one more time :D
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Hahah thank you, I also scared U ask me bai vios hahahah ^^ me no $$$$
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I changed my alarm system to Steelmate.

After my car was broken into 2 years ago... without any alarm...
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QUOTE(tysmiracle @ Mar 4 2015, 07:43 PM)
May I ask, my saga flx 2012 standard, idk why recently after I lock my car at night and go to sleep. The time between 11pm to 8am the alarm will go off, I go sc (puchong) the foreman like don't even know what he is doing, he say my car metal morning hot kembang, night cold so censor lost touch, so he deactivated my front bonnet censor but problem still persist. Anyone had any idea?
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Check if the alarm "brain" is connected properly or not. My Saga friend (or friend's Saga) also faced similar problem. His case was the remote signal is veeeryyy weak, he need to get very near until can touch the car that kind of near baru the alarm can receive the signal from the remote.
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QUOTE(Aquariusdenz @ Mar 4 2015, 11:33 PM)
Check if the alarm "brain" is connected properly or not. My Saga friend (or friend's Saga) also faced similar problem. His case was the remote signal is veeeryyy weak, he need to get very near until can touch the car that kind of near baru the alarm can receive the signal from the remote.
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Ohh I also have this problem, how did he fix this? Go back sc, what did they do? Thank you man
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I changed my alarm system to Steelmate.

After my car was broken into 2 years ago... without any alarm...
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I wonder if I change the alarm system means proton stock key the both button won't be using it already right?
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QUOTE(tysmiracle @ Mar 4 2015, 10:21 PM)
Hahah thank you, I also scared U ask me bai vios hahahah ^^ me no $$$$
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Go UMW, ask them install VIOS alarm, then ensure put TRD spoiler, then it's all good nod.gif
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I wonder if I change the alarm system means proton stock key the both button won't be using it already right?
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I also wanna change alarm and key d, but when u change the key is there anything need to be concern like immobilizer? I Have no idea how it works
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I also wanna change alarm and key d, but when u change the key is there anything need to be concern like immobilizer? I Have no idea how it works
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David change key housing only le. Immo transfer to new key. Iinm, change alarm system, kena change new key. Old immo will not work. 3rd party i dunno, but if change new plotong alarm will get 2 new key set with immo. If wrong please correct me. But to me stock alarm sufficient. Plotong car only ma. Buy vios la if everything mau change.
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Mr. DIY got the T-batang, connect to wrench socket batang extender, but just dun has the long 16mm socket.
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QUOTE(tysmiracle @ Mar 5 2015, 09:13 AM)
I also wanna change alarm and key d, but when u change the key is there anything need to be concern like immobilizer? I Have no idea how it works
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afaik, certain reputable alarm module can be attach with Plotong immo module, only the reputable 1s. Other ciplak may not. If go for ciplak, usually undertree magician will take out 1 of the immo, plant it at the steering column so your car can setat - however, it may kill the fuel pam immaturely due to 24/7 activation by immo. drfeelgood has changed his alarm module without kacauing ori Plotong immo.

QUOTE(iskazulka @ Mar 5 2015, 09:25 AM)
David change key housing only le. Immo transfer to new key. Iinm, change alarm system, kena change new key. Old immo will not work. 3rd party i dunno, but if change new plotong alarm will get 2 new key set with immo. If wrong please correct me. But to me stock alarm sufficient. Plotong car only ma. Buy vios la if everything mau change.
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QUOTE(iskazulka @ Mar 5 2015, 09:25 AM)
David change key housing only le. Immo transfer to new key. Iinm, change alarm system, kena change new key. Old immo will not work. 3rd party i dunno, but if change new plotong alarm will get 2 new key set with immo. If wrong please correct me. But to me stock alarm sufficient. Plotong car only ma. Buy vios la if everything mau change.
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Yeah I also think it that way, plotong only ma hahah but I have problem which is I want to use stock alarm, but I go bak SC and I tell them all the problem. Unable the fix my problem. Me don't know wat to do sad.gif
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QUOTE(tysmiracle @ Mar 4 2015, 07:43 PM)
May I ask, my saga flx 2012 standard, idk why recently after I lock my car at night and go to sleep. The time between 11pm to 8am the alarm will go off, I go sc (puchong) the foreman like don't even know what he is doing, he say my car metal morning hot kembang, night cold so censor lost touch, so he deactivated my front bonnet censor but problem still persist. Anyone had any idea?
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When the alarm set off midnight while you weren't able to sleep, had to disarm it, please don't do it inside the house. Take the opportunity walk out to the porch look into the dashboard cluster, see whether the door opened indicator is lite up? If yes, good chance is 1 or more of your 4 door switch malfunction/stuck. If there's no door opened indicator whilst alarm automatically set off, then it's possibly due to the rear boot lock switch.

Solution for door switch:
Open up the condom, spray conductive lubricant(namely Q20) into the shaft. Press/release a few times and respray lubricant again just to make sure everytime you release the switch, cabin light will lite up. Check also if the shaft is bent, if it is, see whether you can push it back straight so the shaft can thrust properly.
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Solution for rear boot locking mechanism:
Use a screw driver to press the middle "tongue"(spray lubricant before/after press the tongue) until it clicks, don't shut the lid yet. Go back to your driver seat and pull the lever to release. Go to the back and shut the boot. Go back to driver seat and pull the lever to release again. Spray lubricant on the tongue again, use screw driver and press the tongue again until it's lock, then spray lubricant again. Once again, do not shut the lid, go back to driver seat and pull lever to release. You may use your key to open the lock after you press the "tongue", so you don't have to go back/forth.
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Good luck in troubleshooting. This is as far I can share, the others need extensive experience.
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How much is the charges to change front tyre bearing?
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QUOTE(tysmiracle @ Mar 4 2015, 11:40 PM)
I wonder if I change the alarm system means proton stock key the both button won't be using it already right?
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It wont work. But the key is still used because of the immobilizer chip in the plotong key...

Just the 2 buttons become a tool to scratch your thumb when itchy.
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Go UMW, ask them install VIOS alarm, then ensure put TRD spoiler, then it's all good nod.gif
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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Mar 5 2015, 02:49 PM)
When the alarm set off midnight while you weren't able to sleep, had to disarm it, please don't do it inside the house. Take the opportunity walk out to the porch look into the dashboard cluster, see whether the door opened indicator is lite up? If yes, good chance is 1 or more of your 4 door switch malfunction/stuck. If there's no door opened indicator whilst alarm automatically set off, then it's possibly due to the rear boot lock switch.

Solution for door switch:
Open up the condom, spray conductive lubricant(namely Q20) into the shaft. Press/release a few times and respray lubricant again just to make sure everytime you release the switch, cabin light will lite up. Check also if the shaft is bent, if it is, see whether you can push it back straight so the shaft can thrust properly.
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Solution for rear boot locking mechanism:
Use a screw driver to press the middle "tongue"(spray lubricant before/after press the tongue) until it clicks, don't shut the lid yet. Go back to your driver seat and pull the lever to release. Go to the back and shut the boot. Go back to driver seat and pull the lever to release again. Spray lubricant on the tongue again, use screw driver and press the tongue again until it's lock, then spray lubricant again. Once again, do not shut the lid, go back to driver seat and pull lever to release. You may use your key to open the lock after you press the "tongue", so you don't have to go back/forth.
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Good luck in troubleshooting. This is as far I can share, the others need extensive experience.
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Withdrawal symptoms...
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any idea for the size of front speaker?
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any idea for the size of front speaker?
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Sorry i was supposed to check... but my car breakdown in Malacca. I in Jb...

but it should be same size with rear speakers. 6.5 inch.
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I never entered myvi thread before.... because basically i hate the car...

But today being so sleepy i accidently clicked on the thread and this is what i saw...

Haiz.... spoil the image of the Saga FLX SE next to it only...


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QUOTE(drfeelgood @ Mar 6 2015, 09:37 AM)
Sorry i was supposed to check... but my car breakdown in Malacca. I in Jb...

but it should be same size with rear speakers. 6.5 inch.
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Because i changed both my front and rear speakers at the same time. Both same size.

Enjoy your new sound system...
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Roughly how much will it cost to change front left bearing?
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http://www.lelong.com.my/proton-2-button-f...7-01-Sale-I.htm

Anybody bought this and changed their key with it? Looks like awesome syok sendiri key and my Saga key is falling apart.
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Roughly how much will it cost to change front left bearing?
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front bearing rm3xx-4xx
rear bearing rm1xx.
all include labour.
i suspect your rear bearing rosaked, not front, like my case same like yours. my case heard like from the front left but actually rosaked at the rear right.
get it checked first.

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QUOTE(DuGalle @ Mar 6 2015, 04:19 PM)
http://www.lelong.com.my/proton-2-button-f...7-01-Sale-I.htm

Anybody bought this and changed their key with it? Looks like awesome syok sendiri key and my Saga key is falling apart.
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But what buttons work on that? I assume would just be alarm and door unlock?
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But what buttons work on that? I assume would just be alarm and door unlock?
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QUOTE(DuGalle @ Mar 6 2015, 03:19 PM)
http://www.lelong.com.my/proton-2-button-f...7-01-Sale-I.htm

Anybody bought this and changed their key with it? Looks like awesome syok sendiri key and my Saga key is falling apart.
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https://www.facebook.com/DecarateAutoSport?fref=ts
less than rm50 only normal price..
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hello, i wanna ask, is the sound problem fixed yet? or do we still need to invest on soundproofing?
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david, what do u think about 2 leg braking technique?
i find brake force increase a lot becos pedal can reach bottom easier than 1 leg. especially if the car stopping power is weak

also practising left foot braking at the same time

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QUOTE(ktek @ Mar 6 2015, 07:46 PM)
david, what do u think about 2 leg braking technique?
i find brake force increase a lot becos pedal can reach bottom easier than 1 leg. especially if the car stopping power is weak

also practising left foot braking at the same time
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I only practice LFB when going on track, and particularly hyper speed corners. It's a very good method to use foot brake to limit rear tyre traction, whilst front wheels are continue sprint forward, by having easy weight shifting, 1 can practice minimal steering action, yet the car is changing to your direction
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QUOTE(ktek @ Mar 6 2015, 07:46 PM)
david, what do u think about 2 leg braking technique?
i find brake force increase a lot becos pedal can reach bottom easier than 1 leg. especially if the car stopping power is weak

also practising left foot braking at the same time
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How to 2 leg braking on a pedal? Feet step on feet?
I'm also noob dont know LFB...sad...
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How to 2 leg braking on a pedal? Feet step on feet?
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usually for auto gear. the pedal is wide.
manual gear have to step left foot only
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david, what do u think about 2 leg braking technique?
i find brake force increase a lot becos pedal can reach bottom easier than 1 leg. especially if the car stopping power is weak

also practising left foot braking at the same time
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Practicing rev matching also would assist braking tremendously. Too bad i cant do heel & toe, no guts. sad.gif

I'm still feeling my car exhaust not pushing out air enough as i di a little bit of high rev driving, adding a bullet would help? Guys, advice? biggrin.gif
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Practicing rev matching also would assist braking tremendously. Too bad i cant do heel & toe, no guts. sad.gif

I'm still feeling my car exhaust not pushing out air enough as i di a little bit of high rev driving, adding a bullet would help? Guys, advice? biggrin.gif
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put ur foot higher position. Thats the key.
gaga can do it no problem icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(ktek @ Mar 7 2015, 01:52 AM)
usually for auto gear. the pedal is wide.
manual gear have to step left foot only
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U listen to him point u to holland lar. That bugger is a veteran ady yawn.gif Ebo owner impossibulu can't do LFB geh whistling.gif
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QUOTE(ktek @ Mar 7 2015, 07:38 AM)
put ur foot higher position. Thats the key.
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QUOTE(n3w @ Mar 7 2015, 07:17 AM)
Practicing rev matching also would assist braking tremendously. Too bad i cant do heel & toe, no guts. sad.gif

I'm still feeling my car exhaust not pushing out air enough as i di a little bit of high rev driving, adding a bullet would help? Guys, advice? biggrin.gif
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Gaga can do heel n toe.

If u say not pushing out exhaust fast enough means the exhaust gas flow is restrictive or it colds down too fast due to too big exhaust piping n becomes heavy and need more energy to push it out. I don't think adding a billet will help much.

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QUOTE(TitanRev @ Mar 7 2015, 08:09 AM)
Gaga can do heel n toe.

If u say not pushing out exhaust fast enough means the exhaust gas flow is restrictive or it colds down too fast due to too big exhaust piping n becomes heavy and need more energy to push it out. I don't think adding a billet will help much.
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Sometimes, it takes an extra chamber to buffer air speed, rather than straight flow whistling.gif From where these people get the idea of adding a bullet will make the exhaust flow faster yawn.gif
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QUOTE(TitanRev @ Mar 7 2015, 08:09 AM)
Gaga can do heel n toe.

If u say not pushing out exhaust fast enough means the exhaust gas flow is restrictive or it colds down too fast due to too big exhaust piping n becomes heavy and need more energy to push it out. I don't think adding a billet will help much.
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my exhaust piping still stock je, only change extractor. Muffler and midbox still stock. Ape problem ah?
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QUOTE(ktek @ Mar 7 2015, 07:38 AM)
put ur foot higher position. Thats the key.
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Sifu got video can teach? notworthy.gif
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Sometimes, it takes an extra chamber to buffer air speed, rather than straight flow whistling.gif From where these people get the idea of adding a bullet will make the exhaust flow faster yawn.gif
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Meaning changing the muffler ah? To two chambers? Hehehee.
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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Mar 7 2015, 07:45 AM)
U listen to him point u to holland lar. That bugger is a veteran ady yawn.gif Ebo owner impossibulu can't do LFB geh whistling.gif
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U r the inspaliah gai from pinang rite hmm.gif
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i got drive gaga blm sometimes nod.gif

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Sifu got video can teach? notworthy.gif
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ok, i go face wall suck thumb... notworthy.gif
i got drive gaga blm sometimes nod.gif
i will try make one, but need sponsor tripod and fuel icon_question.gif
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Ader inspilah nak sponsor fuel aiyaaaa whistling.gif

Would dyno-ing my car tell what's wrong with my gaga exhaust flow? Reading from articles muffler do little effect on exhaust flow. But wa mia stock muffler teruk kah? At least it is silent. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(n3w @ Mar 7 2015, 10:29 AM)

Ader inspilah nak sponsor fuel aiyaaaa whistling.gif

Would dyno-ing my car tell what's wrong with my gaga exhaust flow? Reading from articles muffler do little effect on exhaust flow. But wa mia stock muffler teruk kah? At least it is silent. tongue.gif
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The handling "issue" that has been discussed by TDi, the drop spindle design for TT made it so versatile that it almost can make a 90' sharp turn at any speed without flipping over the car. The trouble is, even the commentator said it wasn't safe to drive at high speed due to the over agility. Hence factory made a recall, removed the "weapon" from the car and from MKII onwards, they handled NORMAL and with lots of understeer laugh.gif
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Hi all, went to paint shop to ask about painting my Saga rear boot cover, was replaced with stock spare part(black) after accident. So now want to repaint same colour as body.

Got quote RM350 for paint the whole thing outside and also inside. Consider okay OR expensive? Should look for other shop?

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Roughly how much will it cost to change front left bearing?
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QUOTE(iskazulka @ Mar 6 2015, 04:07 PM)
front bearing rm3xx-4xx
rear bearing rm1xx.
all include labour.
i suspect your rear bearing rosaked, not front, like my case same like yours. my case heard like from the front left but actually rosaked at the rear right.
get it checked first.
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Wondering; why is the labor charge different for front vs. rear ?
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Tried this before. It made the car cabin very 'dry'. Breathing dry air is no fun... So I dump it to trunk.

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Tried this before. It made the car cabin very 'dry'. Breathing dry air is no fun... So I dump it to trunk.
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hi everyone! i m a new owner of saga sv flx, auto. can i know is there anyway to install abs and ebd that is available in higher spec flx?
thank u so much
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Hi all, went to paint shop to ask about painting my Saga rear boot cover, was replaced with stock spare part(black) after accident. So now want to repaint same colour as body.

Got quote RM350 for paint the whole thing outside and also inside. Consider okay OR expensive? Should look for other shop?

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Metallic 350 is reasonable. Solid should be 200. Spray paint usually not expansive due to pricing availability and competitive. However, if talking about knock body/restore job, that is very subjective. You wouldn't know whether you pay cheap, the knock job will be good; neither will you know if you paid expansive the restore job is up on par. The only shop that I trust for knock job is in Kuala Pilah, but wouldn't go that far just for the heck of knocking out a small dent on my fender and bonnet yawn.gif Other than that 1, you may consider Satria(authorized Plotong SC) at 227

http://protonservicecentre.blogspot.com/

The last I got quoted to restore my bonnet+fender+solid white paint job for RM350 nia.
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Thanks for the reply, much appreciated smile.gif
Wondering; why is the labor charge different for front vs. rear ?
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Previously discussed, for BLM/FL designed, the front and back is different setup. The front bearing is 1 piece design, the whole spindle is coupled in the bearing. The front bearing itself is already RM300ish. Whereas the rear bearing is flat tapper roller bearing, costing is much cheaper at the range of RM60~100 depending on brand/quality.

Viceversa for FLX, the front and back bearing are same type, both are 1 piece design. Be it front or back, is around RM300ish.

Labor charge for changing bearings for a front wheel drive car, usually the front is more expansive because it require to detached more driving related parts before can take out the bearing, whereas the rear has nothing there other than the braking equipment. For a rear wheel drive car, on average basis both front and back are equally expansive like a FWD front module changing bearing. And ofcourse, for a 4x4, both front and back bearing changing labor charge is averagely more expansive than FWD and RWD regardless because both front and back are related with driving/steering equipment.

On an unrelated note, please also check your tyre condition before jump into conclusion. Do not tell foreman what to change. They hate it much when customer behave xingalan and definitely will give you a piece. Walk in, be humble and tell them you hear humming noise. If the foreman gonna test drive your car, please politely insist you're following on the passenger seat. Tell them what you hear, when you hear, under what circumstances the noise will appear. Ask pricing after diagnostic, be sure if you think the price is outrages, tell them your concern and ask why. There's no way you argue with foreman because your life is on their hand, the bad 1 I've experienced, all they gotta do is purposely FORGOT to tie the locking pin, my bearing lock nut fly off and my Ganjil lose a wheel while driving doh.gif There's absofuckinglutely no point to hide your financial weakness infront of foreman also, these foreman usually richfag and doesn't like customer walk in like a you're on a different category. If you feel the damn thing is over your current budget, just gradually tell them you're short of how much, discuss if there's alternative that will meet your budget whilst get things done.

If you're within Klang valley, highly recommend our very own nestum shop in Jalan Ipoh. 1 of the best tayar shop I've visited.
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Go to passenger side, squat and hang the damn thing behind your shift console. That is the exact place where your aircond receiver withdraw air. The funky smell after rain are all due to wet carpet/moist in cabin, and receiver is the 1 taking all the air from the carpet and blow them right on your face! I myself being too lazy, just chuck it inside my glove box compartment sweat.gif

QUOTE(poweredbydiscuz @ Mar 7 2015, 08:16 PM)
Tried this before. It made the car cabin very 'dry'. Breathing dry air is no fun... So I dump it to trunk.
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You preferred to breath moist air? blink.gif No offense please, such small pack of charcoal weren't enough to dry up active flowing air at high speed. Unless you shut yourself in the cabin drive for 5 hours straight exposed under hot sun with all windows shut. At its best, that pack of charcoal will help to dry up certain area when the car is unoccupied.

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Let's not forget, human body fluid is consistently releasing moisture to the atmosphere, your saliva, your smelly sweat, your nose discharge when you sneeze laugh.gif

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If you're free enough, can read the PDF also. Even sleeping bag also they do research on how human moist will affect laugh.gif cigaoxin

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A little update to share with you guys, I just changed one of my car's rear wheel bearing and of course no more humming noise. rclxm9.gif
Meanwhile I was at the SC, I asked my friend (my friend work at SC) to update the ECU firmware, but he updated the TCU firmware at the same time. My car is a Saga FLX CVT Executive. At first, the improvements are not noticeable when I drove out of the SC, but can notice a slight improvements on the throttle respond. However once I hit a traffic jam, I quickly notice the jerky of the car during low speed had significantly reduced to almost non, near to torque converter. I previously curse the CVT jerky-ness to death, but after this update, I start to love the car again. biggrin.gif CVT users here, maybe you can have a try to update your ECU and TCU firmware. nod.gif
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Korek. Kat belakang sana, atas ECU mia tempat ada lobang sedut angin. Kat sana la paling best. Nak gantung freshener ke, perfume ke, smua bagui

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Masok atas kabin filter? Camni ke?



The package too fat, won't fit laugh.gif Your's is FLX rite? The receiver door open from the right, correct? If FL/Shawie, even worst. Masok boley, but wanna take out that time... cry.gif You'll probably scared the package get wrecked and drop those charcoal into the blower fan doh.gif

p/s: If you rajin enough, can go buy those kopi filter, open up the daiso pack and fill it into the kopi filter make it smaller package then can fit in the cabin filter liao laugh.gif

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Thanks @davidke20 for the advise, much appreciated smile.gif

I shall bring the car to check today, hopefully the shop is open.


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Is it the same for BLM too ?
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QUOTE(Aquariusdenz @ Mar 8 2015, 10:29 AM)
A little update to share with you guys, I just changed one of my car's rear wheel bearing and of course no more humming noise.  rclxm9.gif
Meanwhile I was at the SC, I asked my friend (my friend work at SC) to update the ECU firmware, but he updated the TCU firmware at the same time. My car is a Saga FLX CVT Executive. At first, the improvements are not noticeable when I drove out of the SC, but can notice a slight improvements on the throttle respond. However once I hit a traffic jam, I quickly notice the jerky of the car during low speed had significantly reduced to almost non, near to torque converter. I previously curse the CVT jerky-ness to death, but after this update, I start to love the car again.  biggrin.gif  CVT users here, maybe you can have a try to update your ECU and TCU firmware.  nod.gif
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Is this your first time updating ecu?

There is an update some time back to solve the idle jerky issue. That was the only time i went to sc to update. After that has been bawah pokok service already. biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(n3w @ Mar 8 2015, 01:21 PM)
Is this your first time updating ecu?

There is an update some time back to solve the idle jerky issue. That was the only time i went to sc to update. After that has been bawah pokok service already. biggrin.gif
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This is the 2nd time i did the update. Well, one more year to go before i finish warranty and service bawah pokok. Try to claim everything within one year. flex.gif
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Is it the same for BLM too ?
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If you're referring to the aircond blower receiver intake, yes that's the same place both BLM/FLX draw air from. Which is also why if you have a passenger with yeti foot, your whole car smells like a rotten corpse because the aircond receiver draw air from that exact place where passenger place their feet doh.gif

Nope it's not a design flaw. Not only our crappy Plotong GaGa, all other cars draw air from the lowest possible place in front of the car, for the reason of colder air is more dense, hence aircond design is always trying to draw colder air to maximize their cooling performance.
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same.

no such issue for me at all.
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Hi guys so I messed up a little,

My 2nd routine service was supposed to a little over 2 months ago, which I had conveniently forgotten about. I was only thinking about the first 10,000 km (I am now at 8,500 km).

Assuming that I will be penalized for this, what would be the best and worse case scenario?
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QUOTE(heliosi @ Mar 8 2015, 09:14 PM)
Hi guys so I messed up a little,

My 2nd routine service was supposed to a little over 2 months ago, which I had conveniently forgotten about. I was only thinking about the first 10,000 km (I am now at 8,500 km).

Assuming that I will be penalized for this, what would be the best and worse case scenario?
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Masuk SC, just say wanna service 10,000km.

Don't need to mention you overdue bla bla bla. Just act cool.


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Masuk SC, just say wanna service 10,000km.

Don't need to mention you overdue bla bla bla. Just act cool.
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Dear all blm taiko..

Just change my engine gasket.. Plus the dunno what beneath it.. Seem like join to exhaust pipe..

Now my car Rev itself when idle.. Is it normal?? Will it kaa bomm??

Usually normal idle - it stay below 1k.. Now it always above 1k and move in between 1.5k and 2.2k.. Without air cond or radio turn on..
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QUOTE(Vincent_A8fm @ Mar 8 2015, 10:28 PM)
Dear all blm taiko..

Just change my engine gasket.. Plus the dunno what beneath it.. Seem like join to exhaust pipe..

Now my car Rev itself when idle.. Is it normal?? Will it kaa bomm??

Usually normal idle - it stay below 1k.. Now it always above 1k and move in between 1.5k and 2.2k.. Without air cond or radio turn on..
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Need to reset ECU/recalibrate totobodi yawn.gif
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Hai, would Wanna ask if I want to do major service and do CVT fluid change, is it necessary to go bak to proton? (Coz I read on Google, some people say only proton have some special tools to change that) if I don't want go proton, is it okay to go DTOX?


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Need to reset ECU/recalibrate totobodi yawn.gif
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is it difficult to do? at first leaking go change gasket.. now this.. or i may ask the shop to do it for free??
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is it difficult to do? at first leaking go change gasket.. now this.. or i may ask the shop to do it for free??
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U can reset your ecu by yourself. smile.gif Remove ECU Fuse or unplug the battery terminal head.
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U can reset your ecu by yourself.  smile.gif  Remove ECU Fuse or unplug the battery terminal head.
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i have pull out the fuse 15A, plug it back and pull it out again.. then i put it back and start the car.. still same.. rev itself.. so disappointed after today car service - gasket changing..

i told the mechanic, he told me not to worry, it because the oil need to go back to it position.. but morning until now still like this.. shit..
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QUOTE(Vincent_A8fm @ Mar 8 2015, 11:08 PM)
i have pull out the fuse 15A, plug it back and pull it out again.. then i put it back and start the car.. still same.. rev itself.. so disappointed after today car service - gasket changing..

i told the mechanic, he told me not to worry, it because the oil need to go back to it position.. but morning until now still like this.. shit..
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do you know that , ECU have 2 fuse . one in the engine bay , other one is inside passenger cabin beside your driver door only. If still cant unplug the battery terminal

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QUOTE(tysmiracle @ Mar 8 2015, 10:49 PM)
Hai, would Wanna ask if I want to do major service and do CVT fluid change, is it necessary to go bak to proton? (Coz I read on Google, some people say only proton have some special tools to change that) if I don't want go proton, is it okay to go DTOX?
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Any CVT related matter, pls deal with Plotong. Be sure to use Plotong fluid also. There are incident that some smartbottoms being so smart uses Hongda CVT fluid in their GaGa and ended up change gearbox to manual rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(Vincent_A8fm @ Mar 8 2015, 10:49 PM)
is it difficult to do? at first leaking go change gasket.. now this.. or i may ask the shop to do it for free??
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Probably not, need to wipe certain data pulling fuse wouldn't do that. But no harm trying. Usually I've seen SC hard connect certain wire to do the reset. Otherwise, also tried use OBD2 to reset. I haven't came to see a shop to do it for free. If you found 1, pls share. Thanks
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QUOTE(Maxwell6635 @ Mar 8 2015, 10:54 PM)
U can reset your ecu by yourself.  smile.gif  Remove ECU Fuse or unplug the battery terminal head.
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Unplug battery/replace fuse of ECU can recalibrate throttlebody? rclxms.gif
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Hi all, i was planing to change my saga flx se tyre from 195/50/15 to 195/55/15,Use back the ori rim, ori absorber and ori spring.

Base on the feedback from the member who changed the tyre the problem is the 55 profile will scrub the mudguard in full turn.

So how about when we doing u-turn on the road? Will it scrub the mudguard as well?

My purpose is reduce the bumpy feel and tyre noise when 4 or 5 ppl in the car. Or just upgrade the suspension and stick back the the 50 profile tyre?

Hope all sifu can gv me some advise, thks...

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Unplug battery/replace fuse of ECU can recalibrate throttlebody? rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Mar 9 2015, 06:13 AM)
Any CVT related matter, pls deal with Plotong. Be sure to use Plotong fluid also. There are incident that some smartbottoms being so smart uses Hongda CVT fluid in their GaGa and ended up change gearbox to manual rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(Vincent_A8fm @ Mar 8 2015, 11:08 PM)
i have pull out the fuse 15A, plug it back and pull it out again.. then i put it back and start the car.. still same.. rev itself.. so disappointed after today car service - gasket changing..

i told the mechanic, he told me not to worry, it because the oil need to go back to it position[SIZE=7].. but morning until now still like this.. shit..
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This!!! rclxms.gif rclxms.gif
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Gaga now can fly... Up into the trees..
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Wow.. Gaga fly higher than godcar.. somemore mayvi previously saying: "Fly to the moon also can" on radio never actually fly higher than gaga.. rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(Vincent_A8fm @ Mar 8 2015, 11:08 PM)
i have pull out the fuse 15A, plug it back and pull it out again.. then i put it back and start the car.. still same.. rev itself.. so disappointed after today car service - gasket changing..

i told the mechanic, he told me not to worry, it because the oil need to go back to it position.. but morning until now still like this.. shit..
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shocking.gif wad a statement from the mechanic... i think u wont need to visit him again in the future...mechanic from proton SC or other workshop?
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QUOTE(ckdenion @ Mar 9 2015, 07:09 PM)
shocking.gif wad a statement from the mechanic... i think u wont need to visit him again in the future...mechanic from proton SC or other workshop?
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Other workshop.. Haiz.. Ask my wife send to the workshop just now.. They say the timing need to reset.. They open the engine cover and plug out something and thighten back.. That's all.. All done.. Back to peaceful moment..

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QUOTE(Vincent_A8fm @ Mar 9 2015, 07:12 PM)
Other workshop.. Haiz.. Ask my wife send to the workshop just now.. They say the timing need to reset.. They open the engine cover and plug out something and thighten back.. That's all.. All done.. Back to peaceful moment..
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hmm...cam timing i suppose?
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hmm...cam timing i suppose?
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the open the gold colour cover to change the gasket..
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Hi all. My Saga BLM is having alarm issue.

When alarm is set, the alarm will trigger itself.
I checked, no sign of door opening at the dashboard.
And the alarm will just triggered itself after few minutes I locked the car.
And at first I thought is the door sensor, maybe never change before, spoilt and I changed at SC. But then, the situation still remained the same.

Any brothers here facing same problem? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(Vincent_A8fm @ Mar 9 2015, 07:12 PM)
Other workshop.. Haiz.. Ask my wife send to the workshop just now.. They say the timing need to reset.. They open the engine cover and plug out something and thighten back.. That's all.. All done.. Back to peaceful moment..
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Probably is ur camshaft timing sensor out already. Because on the rocker cover on the top right is a cam timing sensor.
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QUOTE(justhao @ Mar 9 2015, 11:30 PM)
Hi all. My Saga BLM is having alarm issue.

When alarm is set, the alarm will trigger itself.
I checked, no sign of door opening at the dashboard.
And the alarm will just triggered itself after few minutes I locked the car.
And at first I thought is the door sensor, maybe never change before, spoilt and I changed at SC. But then, the situation still remained the same.

Any brothers here facing same problem?  hmm.gif
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I have same problem, if u have read Ive also ask in the past few post, I've tried out methods but still keep trigger itself -.- idk what to do also
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QUOTE(tysmiracle @ Mar 10 2015, 06:31 AM)
I have same problem, if u have read Ive also ask in the past few post, I've tried out methods but still keep trigger itself -.- idk what to do also
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Open the boot, pull the carpet off from the passenger side rear left brake lamp assy area. You'll see 2 computer boxes over there with wiring harness strapped on. Do remember at this point to double check if your car key is in your pocket, do not leave car key in the car. Unplug the boxes(immobilizer and alarm module). Give it a few minute rest and put them back on. By the time you plug in the wiring harness, your alarm should automatically trigger. Use your key to unlock.

Give it a shot. This is your last resolution. If this doesn't solve, good chance is your alarm module short circuit.
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QUOTE(bcbc2308 @ Mar 9 2015, 10:45 AM)
Hi all, i was planing to change my saga flx se tyre from 195/50/15 to 195/55/15,Use back the ori rim, ori absorber and ori spring.

Base on the feedback from the member who changed the tyre the problem is the 55 profile will scrub the mudguard in full turn.

So how about when we doing u-turn on the road? Will it scrub the mudguard as well?

My purpose is reduce the bumpy feel and tyre noise when 4 or 5 ppl in the car. Or just upgrade the suspension and stick back the the 50 profile tyre?

Hope all sifu can gv me some advise, thks...
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doing full turn steering will scrub the mudguard.
u doing full turn when u-turn? then it will.
either :
1) change tyre to yokohama cdrive2 195/50/r15 as drfeelgood rekomen
2) change to 55 profile and avoid doing full turn.
3) add spring bush or change to proride taxi spring then change to 55 profiles and doing full turn without hassle.

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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Mar 10 2015, 08:07 AM)
Open the boot, pull the carpet off from the passenger side rear left brake lamp assy area. You'll see 2 computer boxes over there with wiring harness strapped on. Do remember at this point to double check if your car key is in your pocket, do not leave car key in the car. Unplug the boxes(immobilizer and alarm module). Give it a few minute rest and put them back on. By the time you plug in the wiring harness, your alarm should automatically trigger. Use your key to unlock.

Give it a shot. This is your last resolution. If this doesn't solve, good chance is your alarm module short circuit.
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Thanks again!! If one of the car key in the car, and then I lock the door will this trigger the alarm too?
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QUOTE(tysmiracle @ Mar 10 2015, 11:20 AM)
Thanks again!! If one of the car key in the car, and then I lock the door will this trigger the alarm too?
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Everytime you remove/plugback the battery terminal, your alarm module will auto trigger and lock all doors. This is a safety measure as prevent thief from reset your alarm by disconnecting battery. Hence, by default alarm module is programmed to trigger and lock all doors when power supplied.

Taking off the wiring harness is good as disconnecting battery to the alarm module. Remove wiring = no current. Connect wiring = power supplied. Then auto trigger and lock all doors.
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when I make a U-turn, the steering will have a sound of 'Krukkkkkk.....', anyone know what happens? Thanks
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guys..is it normal for flx cvt gearbox when gear in P or N when you press throttle pedal rpm only can go to 3k?
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when I make a U-turn, the steering will have a sound of 'Krukkkkkk.....', anyone know what happens? Thanks
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try change power steering fluid first.
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QUOTE(sharkz07 @ Mar 10 2015, 02:50 PM)
guys..is it normal for flx cvt gearbox when gear in P or N when you press throttle pedal rpm only can go to 3k?
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why do you want to do that? drag race ka?
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QUOTE(iskazulka @ Mar 10 2015, 02:01 PM)
why do you want to do that? drag race ka?
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asking only la bro..i just want to know is it normal for flx
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QUOTE(sharkz07 @ Mar 10 2015, 03:05 PM)
asking only la bro..i just want to know is it normal for flx
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i am just asking also what. just curious on what purpose.

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QUOTE(sharkz07 @ Mar 10 2015, 01:50 PM)
guys..is it normal for flx cvt gearbox when gear in P or N when you press throttle pedal rpm only can go to 3k?
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Absolutely normal.

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QUOTE(iskazulka @ Mar 10 2015, 02:14 PM)
i am just asking also what. just curious on what purpose.
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lol..so is it normal or not? brows.gif
because i think in other car when u press the throttle there are no rpm limit whatsoever
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iinm normal for flx seebeetee.

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QUOTE(Aquariusdenz @ Mar 10 2015, 02:17 PM)
Absolutely normal.
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thanks bro  icon_rolleyes.gif
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you didn't answer my question. sleep.gif
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you didn't answer my question. sleep.gif
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QUOTE(iskazulka @ Mar 10 2015, 02:47 PM)
you didn't answer my question. sleep.gif
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Ppl already say wanna know issit normal to have rev cut when idling dy....apa lagi funker mau sleep.gif
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Ppl already say wanna know issit normal to have rev cut when idling dy....apa lagi funker mau sleep.gif
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he got his question ask, but he didn;t answer my question. how rude is he. he think he got falcon PUNCH liao. lol.
i ask him why he wanted to know, drag race ka? <-- that is my unanswered question.
dares, what's the purpose of revving in P or D anyway? all i know is revving mau ajak drag race (like in the movies lol)

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QUOTE(iskazulka @ Mar 10 2015, 03:27 PM)
i ask him why he wanted to know, drag race ka? <-- that is my unanswered question.
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He already answer you below your post.

QUOTE(iskazulka @ Mar 10 2015, 03:27 PM)
dares, what's the purpose of revving in P or D anyway? all i know is revving mau ajak drag race (like in the movies lol)
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u x pernah hear foreman rev engine in workshop ka?
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He already answer you below your post.
u x pernah hear foreman rev engine in workshop ka?
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takkan just asking only. there must be a reason.
so why foreman rev engine in workshop?
that fella is not a foreman la.
inb4 i don't have a friend that have a workshop that i can visit frequently that i can hear his foreman rev rev car each time, that i can ask him why you rev rev the car geh.
inb4 me completely non car guy whistling.gif

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Hi sifus, dunno is it good to ask around sifus.. after 3rd service, can i go service in other workshop beside proton service centre? Thank you.

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when I make a U-turn, the steering will have a sound of 'Krukkkkkk.....', anyone know what happens? Thanks
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Could be many things

1) Absorber mounting KO
2) Spring mounting KO
3) Lower arm KO
4) Steering rack bengkoked
5) Anti roll bar dropped link(tulang anjing) koyaked/bengkoked

6) could be nothing, 1 time spring lari from tapak after high impact

Could be any 1 or more of the above that causes it. Send it to reliable tyre shop to diagnostic please.
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QUOTE(sharkz07 @ Mar 10 2015, 01:50 PM)
guys..is it normal for flx cvt gearbox when gear in P or N when you press throttle pedal rpm only can go to 3k?
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Abosufuckinglutely normal. Reason for that is to protect your hardware

1) From engine over revving. 1 must understand when engine free from gebox, torque is raw and there's no other equipment to compensate. Can easily rev until redline then engine explode
2) Prevent sohem from rev engine beyond safe torque band to launch the car. For example last time people manyak panai put gear to N, rev until 6krpm then suddenly punch into D. Like this gebox cipat rosak.

Trust the above explains it.
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Hi sifus, dunno is it good to ask around sifus.. after 3rd service, can i go service in other workshop beside proton service centre? Thank you.
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Unless you do not wish to continue woranti. Otherwise, NO must go back Plotong otorais SC
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Unless you do not wish to continue woranti. Otherwise, NO must go back Plotong otorais SC
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coz i feel everytime service quite high budget as 1 fully- syn edi cost me RM235.. is it the best price in the market?
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coz i feel everytime service quite high budget as 1 fully- syn edi cost me RM235.. is it the best price in the market?
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Go for mineral oil than. Make sure it's still Plotong certified Petr6nas oil. It wouldn't kill your engine even if it's mineral. Again, woranti is what you buy - by servicing your car at otorais SC. If you think servicing at plotong is expansive, think again what happened within 3 years woranti period if injin rosaked, there goes 8k. If transmission rosaked, another 12k. Probably enough for u to bai another used SV liao yawn.gif
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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Mar 10 2015, 05:56 PM)
Go for mineral oil than. Make sure it's still Plotong certified Petr6nas oil. It wouldn't kill your engine even if it's mineral. Again, woranti is what you buy - by servicing your car at otorais SC. If you think servicing at plotong is expansive, think again what happened within 3 years woranti period if injin rosaked, there goes 8k. If transmission rosaked, another 12k. Probably enough for u to bai another used SV liao yawn.gif
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noted. thanks for the info sifus. will take note on it. notworthy.gif notworthy.gif
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QUOTE(justhao @ Mar 9 2015, 11:30 PM)
Hi all. My Saga BLM is having alarm issue.

When alarm is set, the alarm will trigger itself.
I checked, no sign of door opening at the dashboard.
And the alarm will just triggered itself after few minutes I locked the car.
And at first I thought is the door sensor, maybe never change before, spoilt and I changed at SC. But then, the situation still remained the same.

Any brothers here facing same problem?  hmm.gif
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Dont only keep check doors. Check front and rear bonnet too. U may refer to the alarm fault indicator light signal blinking at the center switch (the alarm reset switch) for the fault code indicator.

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Btw does anyone know whether plotong is selling front brake caliper service kits? My car nvr service the caliper before since 2009 till now. Only do brake oil flushing and brake pad replacement. Feel like want to do front and rear brake servicing.
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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Mar 8 2015, 07:57 AM)
Metallic 350 is reasonable. Solid should be 200. Spray paint usually not expansive due to pricing availability and competitive. However, if talking about knock body/restore job, that is very subjective. You wouldn't know whether you pay cheap, the knock job will be good; neither will you know if you paid expansive the restore job is up on par. The only shop that I trust for knock job is in Kuala Pilah, but wouldn't go that far just for the heck of knocking out a small dent on my fender and bonnet  yawn.gif Other than that 1, you may consider Satria(authorized Plotong SC) at 227

http://protonservicecentre.blogspot.com/

The last I got quoted to restore my bonnet+fender+solid white paint job for RM350 nia.
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Thank you for your input. Found another shop that quote me RM250 but quite far from home and take 2 days.

Probably going to the one nearer to home, RM350 and one day only.

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QUOTE(iskazulka @ Mar 10 2015, 08:28 AM)
doing full turn steering will scrub the mudguard.
u doing full turn when u-turn? then it will.
either :
1) change tyre to yokohama cdrive2 195/50/r15 as drfeelgood rekomen
2) change to 55 profile and avoid doing full turn.
3) add spring bush or change to proride taxi spring then change to 55 profiles and doing full turn without hassle.
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Thks bro~

I'm nt sure for the full turn when u-turn, need to try again. hmm.gif Maybe use in some small road and parking.

Proride spring not only standard and sport? Which one is taxi spring?

The back of the tyre scrub the mudguard is bcoz the body too low not bcoz of tyre too big?

Sorry for the silly question, but I jz want to make sure the solution, bcoz I need to change 4 tyre.icon_question.gif

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QUOTE(bcbc2308 @ Mar 10 2015, 10:41 PM)
Thks bro~

I'm nt sure for the full turn when u-turn, need to try again. hmm.gif  Maybe use in some small road and parking.

Proride spring not only standard and sport? Which one is taxi spring?

The back of the tyre scrub the mudguard is bcoz the body too low not bcoz of tyre too big?

Sorry for the silly question, but I jz want to make sure the solution, bcoz I need to change 4 tyre.icon_question.gif
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Taxi spring is another type of spring they talking about which is on blm taxi.
Rear tire run mudguard is because tire is wider or the rim offset to outside. +30 rims at rear will definitely rub the body already one even u n 50 series. I've tried this setup +35 also will rub if you full load at rear and when go over high speed wavy part. What I did was I DIy rolled out my rear fender. Problem solved and with adjustables it was not rubbing. I think with rolled fender maximum the rear u can go is +33 only front 40-35 is good already
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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Mar 10 2015, 07:46 PM)
Abosufuckinglutely normal. Reason for that is to protect your hardware

It made me smile when I eventually discovered the rev limiting, it made me wonder if there was an issue that hadn't triggered a code but Daisy sure revved nice and high when I gave her a bootfull on the highway to test it. It seems unlike non-Proton owners in Australia I can't really find problems with them, except the lousy tiny fuel tank.
BTW my 1.6 l seems limited to 2.5k.
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QUOTE(wankel @ Mar 11 2015, 02:20 AM)
It made me smile when I eventually discovered the rev limiting, it made me wonder if there was an issue that hadn't triggered a code but Daisy sure revved nice and high when I gave her a bootfull on the highway to test it. It seems unlike non-Proton owners in Australia I can't really find problems with them, except the lousy tiny fuel tank.
BTW my 1.6 l seems limited to 2.5k.
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The 40litre fuel tank if being used effectively, that 35litres of fuel can made up to 600km. The VIN coded as PL1BT series are all made for fuel economy model. PL1(Proton)BT3(BaseTrimModel3)SNR(Sedan) - Plotong GaGa/S16 series
PL1(Proton)BT2(BaseTrimModel2)LNR(Hatchback) - Plotong Shawie/ShawieStyle in UK-OZ
Help yourself here nod.gif http://vindecoder.eu/proton

The rev limiter is set around that region. I wouldn't be sure what's the exact figure, our old BLM doesn't have that function. As far as I know, most newer automatic transmission vehicle already have the rev limiting function for transmission protection. The 1st time I notice it was a 2003 Hongda Aggord, already got such function when everybody was scratching our head laugh.gif
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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Mar 11 2015, 07:47 AM)
The 40litre fuel tank if being used effectively, that 35litres of fuel can made up to 600km. The VIN coded as PL1BT series are all made for fuel economy model. PL1(Proton)BT3(BaseTrimModel3)SNR(Sedan) - Plotong GaGa/S16 series
PL1(Proton)BT2(BaseTrimModel2)LNR(Hatchback) - Plotong Shawie/ShawieStyle in UK-OZ
Help yourself here nod.gif http://vindecoder.eu/proton

The rev limiter is set around that region. I wouldn't be sure what's the exact figure, our old BLM doesn't have that function. As far as I know, most newer automatic transmission vehicle already have the rev limiting function for transmission protection. The 1st time I notice it was a 2003 Hongda Aggord, already got such function when everybody was scratching our head laugh.gif
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Daisy has BT6ST for her trim marker. Thanks for the decoder URL, information is always welcomed.

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TiTies

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Date: 13 March 2015
Time: 9.30 PM onwards

Location: Restoran JIHAN MAJU, Aked Esplanad, Bukit Jalil. (Near EA Autoworks)
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so last time TT wrong restaurant isit?
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TiTies

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Date: 13 March 2015
Time: 9.30 PM onwards

Location: Restoran JIHAN MAJU, Aked Esplanad, Bukit Jalil. (Near EA Autoworks)
GPS Coordinate: 3.061947, 101.676823
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Daisy has BT6ST for her trim marker. Thanks for the decoder URL, information is always welcomed.
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The "BT" I actually do not know what it stands for, neither the local workshop fellas know what the heck it represents, we're just guessing. However, we think it's more likely to be in Malay language BuaTan the meaning of MAKE, similar to MK in other country's VIN. So, if BT2 for Savvy is 2nd model, which makes your is 6th model nod.gif As for the ST... that part is the trim/model. I don't know what it stands for either, take a wild guess - SUPER TURBO ? laugh.gif
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so last time TT wrong restaurant isit?
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Dunno which Datuk Seri start to go there punya...
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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Mar 11 2015, 10:21 AM)
The "BT" I actually do not know what it stands for, neither the local workshop fellas know what the heck it represents, we're just guessing. However, we think it's more likely to be in Malay language BuaTan the meaning of MAKE, similar to MK in other country's VIN. So, if BT2 for Savvy is 2nd model, which makes your is 6th model nod.gif As for the ST... that part is the trim/model. I don't know what it stands for either, take a wild guess - SUPER TURBO ? laugh.gif
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SUPER TURBO, smile, I wish but no. BT6 would just indicate a fairly high trim standard I'd say, leather, power windows, that sort of thing, even some sort of traction control which much to my surprise can be very useful. I found out when I pulled up in a boggy patch a few weeks ago. I immediately tried to reverse out and when the wheels began to spin (despite much care) I could hear a clicking noise that could only be the traction control doing a bit of exercise, result was painlessly being able to find a drier parking spot, I was half expecting to get muddy feet from pushing. Another Proton thing to impress me.

Driving in the 95% of Australia that is outside the capital cities is somewhat like driving on the moon compared to SE Asia, filling stations can be quite some distance apart, and when towns are a long way apart filling stations in between realise the sky can be the limit for prices, that makes fuel tank size a factor.
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Talking about CVT, anyway to improve throttle respond? The worth mods. So far i only did one grounding cable to the engine. And one more think, the exhaust seems quite noisy during acceleration around 2.25k rpm, let say modding the exhaust can improve the sound to a better tone? hahaha..
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QUOTE(TitanRev @ Mar 11 2015, 01:04 AM)

Hi bro, saw ur siggy hence wanted to ask u this; for gaga wanna install oct memang will pasang the 2 hose at the 2 outlets of the rocker cover?
iinm left side is vacuum, right side is connect to totobody right?
want to try diy own oct but not 100% the hose route connection rclxub.gif

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QUOTE(Aquariusdenz @ Mar 11 2015, 01:02 PM)
Talking about CVT, anyway to improve throttle respond? The worth mods. So far i only did one grounding cable to the engine. And one more think, the exhaust seems quite noisy during acceleration around 2.25k rpm, let say modding the exhaust can improve the sound to a better tone? hahaha..
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I'm Sri Damansara, I just showered and finish catching up all the posts yawn.gif

Anyway, its a good TT that changed my point of view. Thanks to sg999 for showing me the significant of useful ground cable, voltage stabilizer and a blardy thick welding cable that stuck with the alternator shocking.gif Before I able to step on your gas pedal, I was still wondering it should be some placebo or virtually minimal effect, but I was wrong. The good combination of those VS, grounding bank and also the thick wire did significantly reduce throttle lag to virtually NONE. By hitting the gas pedal, I know there's still lag, but couldn't feel it. I still know its a DbW, but it seems instantaneous. The shift stick still spongy like a shit soaked butter finger, just like what a BLM should be. But the throttle response had been significantly improved. Definitely no doubt about it. This is by far the best BLM I've seen/drove before. I will give some thought to it and try my luck with quality amp cable by DIY a set of grounding bank hmm.gif

Along the way driving home, I've put some thought to what have inside sg999's car was the significant improvement of conduction. So I took a wild guess, could it be stable firing that reduce the need of powering up the ignition coil? If you all remember, I already figured the throttlebody itself is NOT lag. When you put your leg on the pedal, the throttle body DID open at the same time, what trouble me was the response of any other consequences after the throttle work, such as ignition timing, miscalculation of fuel injection rate. So, with stable electricity, ignition coil generate instant power(if you don't already know ignition coil need to transform the tiny 12V to 30,000V), so here goes the theory. If your car does not have good electricity conduction, it takes longer time to charge the 12V up to the ignition 30,000V. Without good grounding work, negative ion will not be able to send back to the battery source fast enough, as a result the bad chain reaction more lag and even more lagging everytime you wide open your throttlebody.

So I have a brief conclusion, its not the throttlebody, it could be the wrong calculation of ignition timing. It could be the wrong calculation of fuel injected rate. Watch video below, you'll get the idea our GaGa actually has the same throttle flap response just like any other DbW vehicle, the only thing I concern now is, what happen after WOT hmm.gif


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QUOTE(TitanRev @ Mar 11 2015, 01:04 AM)

Hi bro, saw ur siggy hence wanted to ask u this; for gaga wanna install oct memang will pasang the 2 hose at the 2 outlets of the rocker cover?
iinm left side is vacuum, right side is connect to totobody right?
want to try diy own oct but not 100% the hose route connection rclxub.gif
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wat u gonna use? i also looking material to diy oct as well... haha...

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[quote=r3apers,Mar 11 2015, 12:37 PM]
Hi bro, saw ur siggy hence wanted to ask u this; for gaga wanna install oct memang will pasang the 2 hose at the 2 outlets of the rocker cover?
iinm left side is vacuum, right side is connect to totobody right?
want to try diy own oct but not 100% the hose route connection rclxub.gif
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wat u gonna use? i also looking material to diy oct as well... haha...
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something like this, test first haha
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[quote=Bazinga!,Mar 11 2015, 12:40 PM]
wat u gonna use? i also looking material to diy oct as well... haha...
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something like this, test first haha
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haha... i thinking diy the tank as well...lolx
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[quote=r3apers,Mar 11 2015, 12:46 PM]
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something like this, test first haha
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haha... i thinking diy the tank as well...lolx
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easy and cheap mah..
just not sure the hose connection only haha.
you know?
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haha... i thinking diy the tank as well...lolx
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easy and cheap mah..
just not sure the hose connection only haha.
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u wan connect breather or PCV?

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my car is having very loud vibration when throttle close and car is moving. it is even more loud when on L or when engine braking. any idea what causing this? i suspect leaky exhaust.
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QUOTE(Jusb @ Mar 11 2015, 02:35 PM)
my car is having very loud vibration when throttle close and car is moving. it is even more loud when on L or when engine braking. any idea what causing this? i suspect leaky exhaust.
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can u identified where the noise come frm? engine? exhaust system?
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can u identified where the noise come frm? engine? exhaust system?
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when revving the engine/throttle it's normal just that when u let go the throttle when car is moving at speed. i thought my ignition coil problem i change still same.
exhaust is stock.

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QUOTE(Jusb @ Mar 11 2015, 03:35 PM)
when revving the engine/throttle it's normal just that when u let go the throttle when car is moving at speed. i thought my ignition coil problem i change still same.
exhaust is stock.
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QUOTE(Bazinga! @ Mar 11 2015, 12:40)
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QUOTE(r3apers @ Mar 11 2015, 02:13 PM)
u wan connect breather or PCV?
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breather is the left side outlet, pcv is the right side outlet on the rocker cover right?
most prolly connect pcv

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yea correct haha. its that your own diy?
if yea, your 2 hoses connect where?
solli for bad grammar, baru bangun sweat.gif
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QUOTE(Bazinga! @ Mar 11 2015, 04:22 PM)
breather is the left side outlet, pcv is the right side outlet on the rocker cover right?
most prolly connect pcv
yea correct haha. its that your own diy?
if yea, your 2 hoses connect where?
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breather -> oct -> TB / PCV -> oct -> intake iinm...

juz follow the path and slot ur oct inbetween
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QUOTE(Bazinga! @ Mar 11 2015, 04:22 PM)
yea correct haha. its that your own diy?
if yea, your 2 hoses connect where?
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Yup, Bro...
Did same 4my ole 1992 Saga 1.5I...

Me connect only in-btwin PCV 2inlet manifold...higher suction (more oil fumes sucked out fr rocker cover)..
Me not worried re breather route cos me unker-driver nia...feel more of air intake flow towards rocker cover via that route... icon_rolleyes.gif

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Re DIY OCT...
If worried abt oil fumes being sucked out via breather tube to TB, then disconnect tube fr TB end, shorten tube and add a separate air filter 2input end.
NB. Seal up breather tube connector @TB side.

That wld ensure 1-way flow of air ie IN via breather tube (thru added air filter)and OUT via OCT to inlet manifold...
Best wishes & Good luck!

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QUOTE(Bazinga! @ Mar 11 2015, 12:15 PM)
Hi bro, saw ur siggy hence wanted to ask u this; for gaga wanna install oct memang will pasang the 2 hose at the 2 outlets of the rocker cover?
iinm left side is vacuum, right side is connect to totobody right?
want to try diy own oct but not 100% the hose route connection  rclxub.gif
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wat u gonna use? i also looking material to diy oct as well... haha...
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Pardon my kindergarten like drawing because I use finger to try on my screen.

1. the 2 outlet from rocker cover I use a T joint and a brass reducer to make this. The right side rocker cover breather hole is bigger than the 1 on left so you will need to different sizes of hose then you will know how to joint them up with the T joint and the reducer. Then I pull a single hose from the 2 joined ones into the OCT and the OCT outlet I just let it vent into atmosphere.

2. How about the hole at the intake pipe and at the intake manifold? I just plug them off with an silicone end cap where you can find in performance shops or spare part shop. cheap stuff only.

Wahla you are done. 1 more thing, make sure you mount your OCT away from the hot engine as far as possible or a place away from heat where the oil an cold down and pleace the OCT lower than your rocker cover so the condensed oil will flow into the tank..my when clean has a lot of oil inside

For your OCT you can use tupperware to make also. drill 2 holes into the side and put 2 male nipper into the tupperware and connect with hose. good tupperware..that can stand oven mia

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how big for the silicon end cap?

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how big for the silicon end cap?
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air intake piep side iinm 10-11mm

Intake manifold side very small i cant measure just sumbat the stock hose with a besi

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QUOTE(TitanRev @ Mar 11 2015, 05:43 PM)
air intake piep side iinm 10-11mm

Intake manifold side very small i cant measure just sumbat the stock hose with a besi
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QUOTE(zeone @ Mar 11 2015, 04:42 PM)
Yup, Bro...
Did same 4my ole 1992 Saga 1.5I...

Me connect only in-btwin PCV 2inlet manifold...higher suction (more oil fumes sucked out fr rocker cover)..
Me not worried re breather route cos me unker-driver nia...feel more of air intake flow towards rocker cover via that route... icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(zeone @ Mar 11 2015, 04:56 PM)
Re DIY OCT...
If worried abt oil fumes being sucked out via breather tube to TB, then disconnect tube fr TB end, shorten tube and add a separate air filter 2input end.
NB. Seal up breather tube connector @TB side.

That wld ensure 1-way flow of air ie IN via breather tube (thru added air filter)and OUT via OCT to inlet manifold...
Best wishes & Good luck!
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i see, thank you thank you for your input notworthy.gif notworthy.gif

QUOTE(TitanRev @ Mar 11 2015, 05:24 PM)
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Pardon my kindergarten like drawing because I use finger to try on my screen.

1. the 2 outlet from rocker cover I use a T joint and a brass reducer to make this. The right side rocker cover breather hole is bigger than the 1 on left so you will need to different sizes of hose then you will know how to joint them up with the T joint and the reducer. Then I pull a single hose from the 2 joined ones into the OCT and the OCT outlet I just let it vent into atmosphere.

2. How about the hole at the intake pipe and at the intake manifold? I just plug them off with an silicone end cap where you can find in performance shops or spare part shop. cheap stuff only.

Wahla you are done. 1 more thing, make sure you mount your OCT away from the hot engine as far as possible or a place away from heat where the oil an cold down and pleace the OCT lower than your rocker cover so the condensed oil will flow into the tank..my when clean has a lot of oil inside

For your OCT you can use tupperware to make also. drill 2 holes into the side and put 2 male nipper into the tupperware and connect with hose. good tupperware..that can stand oven mia
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yes, i noticed the different sizes in the 2 outlet when i open and clean tb just now. the right side is slightly oily; dont need loosen clip also hose easily slide out, while left side looks completely dry.
i was thinking if i just connect the oct between right side outlet and intake pipe will it work as well? left side outlet to intake manifold not touched.
your setup definitely much better than mine though thumbup.gif
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i see, thank you thank you for your input  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif
yes, i noticed the different sizes in the 2 outlet when i open and clean tb just now. the right side is slightly oily; dont need loosen clip also hose easily slide out, while left side looks completely dry.
i was thinking if i just connect the oct between right side outlet and intake pipe will it work as well? left side outlet to intake manifold not touched.
your setup definitely much better than mine though thumbup.gif
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My both outlet also oily...hahaha
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QUOTE(TitanRev @ Mar 11 2015, 07:37 PM)
My both outlet also oily...hahaha
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engine too power dy thats whyyyyy whistling.gif whistling.gif
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engine too power dy thats whyyyyy  whistling.gif  whistling.gif
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Hahaha lately just changed to Walbro E85 255l/hr pump lagi power...

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QUOTE(TitanRev @ Mar 11 2015, 10:20 PM)
Hahaha lately just changed to Walbro E85 255l/hr pump lagi power...
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wahhh, about rm500 right?
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Hi all! May i know how to set the clock for my saga flx? smile.gif
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Hi all! May i know how to set the clock for my saga flx? smile.gif
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sila rujuk buku user manual. nod.gif
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Thats why
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Somebody took my manual away from my car sad.gif
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press the needle stick at the bottom center of ur speedometer until it shows ur car mileage (not the trip mileage)...
press and hold the needle stick until the clock blinks and adjust it by pressing the needle stick..
once u set the hour time, let off and wait until the minute time starts blinking and repeat the same..
after done, just leave it until it stops blinking.. then u r done....
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QUOTE(soyabean123 @ Mar 12 2015, 10:07 AM)
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From memory, start with the odometer reading total distance, not trip distance. Hold the trip reset knob down for a a short time and the time will flash. short jab the knob until the hour/minute (I forget which comes first) is correct, then wait for a little bit and the other thing (minute or hour) will flash, then short jab the knob until it's right and just wait afterwards.
I'm just feeling too lazy to check my manual so forgive me if I'm wrong.
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Thank you very much, ruby1288 & wankel smile.gif)
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you'll get many chances to practice. As time goes by, the clock will be getting slower... and slower... and slower... laugh.gif
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you'll get many chances to practice. As time goes by, the clock will be getting slower... and slower... and slower... laugh.gif
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never noticed that lol. accuracy rely on hp. whistling.gif
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mine 1-2 months slow 1 min....
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Which one better to install first between Ular Cacing Rear Strut Bar (3 point) OR Side Lower bar ?

I already have Front engine bar and ARB install and wondering which one is give more feel.

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QUOTE(mkyo3 @ Mar 12 2015, 12:35 PM)
Which one better to install first  between Ular Cacing  Rear Strut Bar (3 point) OR Side Lower bar ?

I already have Front engine bar and ARB install and wondering which one is give more feel.
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what ur purpose 1st?

FSB 2 point done, UR ARB done, still not enuff ah?
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QUOTE(mkyo3 @ Mar 12 2015, 12:35 PM)
Which one better to install first  between Ular Cacing  Rear Strut Bar (3 point) OR Side Lower bar ?

I already have Front engine bar and ARB install and wondering which one is give more feel.
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sell your UR bars.

Buy 3Max 4-point front strut bar, 3-point rear strut bar and 4 point rear ARB whistling.gif
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QUOTE(dares @ Mar 12 2015, 12:55 PM)
sell your UR bars.

Buy 3Max 4-point front strut bar, 3-point rear strut bar and 4 point rear ARB whistling.gif
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apa tu?
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GPMadman mana lu?

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apa tu?
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3Max mia rear ARB lor whistling.gif

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QUOTE(dares @ Mar 12 2015, 12:55 PM)
sell your UR bars.

Buy 3Max 4-point front strut bar, 3-point rear strut bar and 4 point rear ARB whistling.gif
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Too lazy want to do dealing buy/selling.

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FSB 2 point done, UR ARB done, still not enuff ah?


For me I still not yet enough. Mostly want to improve handling/ cornering.
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QUOTE(Bazinga! @ Mar 12 2015, 01:39 AM)
wahhh, about rm500 right?
racing fuel pump loooo  flex.gif
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I bough for 400 Genuine and DIY install. A note though Walbro got 2 types of in tank fuel pump although most the reference is not clear. Our stock FP body diameter is 37mm IINM the Walbro are 38mm and it will not fit, you need to find the Walbro pump with body diameter which is smaller and the internal design is different. It looks similar to the GS series but body just different diameter. I got the wrong pump and had to replaced them to the right one.

Also our stock harness will be enough to power the Walbro given that your supply is above 12V. With AC and load I'm getting 13. 87V and when rad fan kick in the V dips to 12.50V and back up again. I've already wired my relay kit to power the pump but not utilized it yet because the stock FPR will not able to regulate the fuel pressure if I increase the FP duty cycle. So I will need to run new fuel lines and ditch the returnless system to a return type before I up the supply to 14.60V to the FP and change out the stock wiring to the pump.

I will check again the stock FP diameter and let you know.
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you'll get many chances to practice. As time goes by, the clock will be getting slower... and slower... and slower... laugh.gif
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Yalo why ah? Every time i makin late to work because thinking i still got extra 5-10mins. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(dares @ Mar 12 2015, 01:02 PM)
3Max mia rear ARB lor whistling.gif

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2 point mar where got 4 point?

QUOTE(mkyo3 @ Mar 12 2015, 01:07 PM)
Too lazy want to do dealing buy/selling.
For me I still not yet enough. Mostly want to improve handling/ cornering.
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deal with suspensions 1st...

QUOTE(TitanRev @ Mar 12 2015, 01:50 PM)
I bough for 400 Genuine and DIY install. A note though Walbro got 2 types of in tank fuel pump although most the reference is not clear. Our stock FP body diameter is 37mm IINM the Walbro are 38mm and it will not fit, you need to find the Walbro pump with body diameter which is smaller and the internal design is different. It looks similar to the GS series but body just different diameter. I got the wrong pump and had to replaced them to the right one.

Also our stock harness will be enough to power the Walbro given that your supply is above 12V. With AC and load I'm getting 13. 87V and when rad fan kick in the V dips to 12.50V and back up again. I've already wired my relay kit to power the pump but not utilized it yet because the stock FPR will not able to regulate the fuel pressure if I increase the FP duty cycle. So I will need to run new fuel lines and ditch the returnless system to a return type before I up the supply to 14.60V to the FP and change out the stock wiring to the pump.

I will check again the stock FP diameter and let you know.
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summoning ACURARSX upon UR bars.
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apa ketahian ni...  rclxub.gif
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Takda ah...

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r3apers say TitanRev tahi.
brb lari keluar mahresia

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QUOTE(TitanRev @ Mar 12 2015, 02:21 PM)
Takda ah...
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haha.... faster go change new adjustable la, give me urs.... laugh.gif
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QUOTE(r3apers @ Mar 12 2015, 02:29 PM)
haha.... faster go change new adjustable la, give me urs....  laugh.gif
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Slow Slow wait...

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QUOTE(r3apers @ Mar 12 2015, 02:18 PM)
2 point mar where got 4 point?
deal with suspensions 1st...
I am still using the stock spring/absorber, dont want to change to sport spring coz later ride will be bumpy.. and good absorber set can cost more $$$. Only have cash to buy Bars.
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QUOTE(TitanRev @ Mar 12 2015, 02:38 PM)
Slow Slow wait...
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QUOTE(mkyo3 @ Mar 12 2015, 02:44 PM)
I am still using the stock spring/absorber, dont want to change to sport spring coz later ride will be bumpy.. and good absorber set can cost more $$$. Only have cash to buy Bars.
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thn save to get a suspension 1st to improve handling... if u insist to get .. rear struct/member bar ... either UR or 3MAX... UR will eat some space due to the design like hanging clothes... 3MAX save space still can put a lot of stuff...

but two bar characteristic is different....
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I dont think I going to get the hanging tower back strut bar... coz later hard to put rice back in rear boot. Definitly goint to get the 3 point rear bar this end month.

Since I already have ultra cacing ARB install (bought long time ago), buying a rear lower bar would be cheaper than replacing it with 3max ARB.
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QUOTE(mkyo3 @ Mar 12 2015, 03:14 PM)
I dont think I going to get the hanging tower back strut bar... coz later hard to put rice back in rear boot. Definitly goint to get the 3 point rear bar this end month.

Since I already have ultra cacing ARB install (bought long time ago), buying a rear lower bar would be cheaper than replacing it with 3max ARB.
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haha, as u wish..... rear lower bar also ok de...

Mine already is UR FSB+Rear 3-point, rear lower member bar & 3Max 19mm ARB, pending progress is fender bar...
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QUOTE(r3apers @ Mar 12 2015, 03:34 PM)
haha, as u wish..... rear lower bar also ok de... 

Mine already is UR FSB+Rear 3-point, rear lower member bar & 3Max 19mm ARB, pending progress is fender bar...
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Kasi fullset je la. whistling.gif
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QUOTE(wkwong91 @ Mar 12 2015, 03:44 PM)
Kasi fullset je la.  whistling.gif
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front lower bar taken out liao lo.... left fender je...

no bar on passenger, later wife tak suka....
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QUOTE(r3apers @ Mar 12 2015, 03:46 PM)
front lower bar taken out liao lo.... left fender je...

no bar on passenger, later wife tak suka....
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buy one more car for ur wifey to drive. saga u kasi convert to race car like u have told to Joe. whistling.gif
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QUOTE(wkwong91 @ Mar 12 2015, 03:53 PM)
buy one more car for ur wifey to drive. saga u kasi convert to race car like u have told to Joe.  whistling.gif
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not reech as joe.... so cant afford it... sweat.gif
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wkwong91 bila mau upgrade exhaust ah?
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QUOTE(r3apers @ Mar 12 2015, 04:27 PM)
wkwong91 bila mau upgrade exhaust ah?
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Exhaust nth already. My car is stock. whistling.gif
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QUOTE(wkwong91 @ Mar 12 2015, 04:44 PM)
Exhaust nth already. My car is stock. whistling.gif
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QUOTE(wkwong91 @ Mar 12 2015, 04:44 PM)
Exhaust nth already. My car is stock. whistling.gif
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Save moneh buy D750 better. whistling.gif whistling.gif whistling.gif
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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Mar 12 2015, 04:51 PM)
Save moneh buy D750 better. whistling.gif whistling.gif whistling.gif
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haha, u not scared johnkor softmod u here ah.... laugh.gif

buy sony alpha ma...
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QUOTE(r3apers @ Mar 12 2015, 04:53 PM)
haha, u not scared johnkor softmod u here ah....  laugh.gif

buy sony alpha ma...
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I TAKUT DIA ADA BULU MEH?
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TAKUT BULU DIA MACAM ORG UTAN~~!!!
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later problem surface again...  whistling.gif  whistling.gif
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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Mar 12 2015, 04:51 PM)
Save moneh buy D750 better. whistling.gif whistling.gif whistling.gif
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Ya. But not now. Haha. brows.gif

QUOTE(r3apers @ Mar 12 2015, 04:53 PM)
haha, u not scared johnkor softmod u here ah....  laugh.gif

buy sony alpha ma...
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Then he shall be the second Orang Utan to be suspended, after the BBC's one.
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QUOTE(wkwong91 @ Mar 12 2015, 04:55 PM)
U diam2.  mad.gif
Ya. But not now. Haha.  brows.gif
Alpha ask V12 join. I no join.  laugh.gif
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V12k Nikon kaki lo...
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QUOTE(r3apers @ Mar 12 2015, 04:56 PM)
laugh.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif
V12k Nikon kaki lo...
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Then u join Alpha. GST mali. Don't mod car liao. save the $. whistling.gif
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U diam2.  mad.gif
Ya. But not now. Haha.  brows.gif
Alpha ask V12 join. I no join.  laugh.gif
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Hi. wave.gif

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Hi. wave.gif
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QUOTE(wkwong91 @ Mar 12 2015, 04:58 PM)
Then u join Alpha. GST mali. Don't mod car liao. save the $.  whistling.gif
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i no join coz no DSLR.....

dont belip wat u say... whistling.gif
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Alpha shirt. Free one. whistling.gif whistling.gif whistling.gif
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Alpha shirt. Free one. whistling.gif whistling.gif whistling.gif
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u everything also free de la... u always zap dou de...
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i no join coz no DSLR.....

dont belip wat u say... whistling.gif
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Ur $$ dump into ur car and kids already. Itu saya punya comment. whistling.gif
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QUOTE(wkwong91 @ Mar 12 2015, 05:15 PM)
Ur $$ dump into ur car and kids already. Itu saya punya comment.  whistling.gif
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dont belip u will do tht.... whistling.gif
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dont belip u will do tht....  whistling.gif
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u must belip coz i will do that. whistling.gif
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u must belip coz i will do that.  whistling.gif
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mine 1-2 months slow 1 min....
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mine slow by almost 10mins

oh wai it was never accurate in the first place
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QUOTE(JonSpark @ Mar 12 2015, 05:58 PM)
mine slow by almost 10mins

oh wai it was never accurate in the first place
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summoning ACURARSX upon UR bars.
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wassap?
anyone want buy UR bar?
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haha... mine starting accurate later slow slow slow...  doh.gif
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i set aeroplane clock as it get slower and slower by itself icon_idea.gif whistling.gif
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QUOTE(mkyo3 @ Mar 12 2015, 03:14 PM)
I dont think I going to get the hanging tower back strut bar... coz later hard to put rice back in rear boot. Definitly goint to get the 3 point rear bar this end month.

Since I already have ultra cacing ARB install (bought long time ago), buying a rear lower bar would be cheaper than replacing it with 3max ARB.
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Admit it, you just wanted more bars in the car(be it cheap and useless) to "look" fast and "feel" stable. The rear lower bar of Ular Cacing has a total different function than what 3MAX ARB does. It's a cross member brace that will enforce the chassis rigidity beneath the rear passneger seats. It's not about how cheap the bar can be, it's the functionality nod.gif

Please bai Ular Cacing rear "STRUT" bar. From the name, 1 can expect the bar supposed to strap on the STRUT, which 3MAX idiotic kind of design conveniently strapped on the seats. What an idiot yawn.gif

p/s: NOT trolling, in addition to the latest incident that involved our TS yawn.gif
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donate me, i so poor now...  cry.gif
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donate apa??
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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Mar 12 2015, 08:58 PM)
Admit it, you just wanted more bars in the car(be it cheap and useless) to "look" fast and "feel" stable. The rear lower bar of Ular Cacing has a total different function than what 3MAX ARB does. It's a cross member brace that will enforce the chassis rigidity beneath the rear passneger seats. It's not about how cheap the bar can be, it's the functionality nod.gif

Please bai Ular Cacing rear "STRUT" bar. From the name, 1 can expect the bar supposed to strap on the STRUT, which 3MAX idiotic kind of design conveniently strapped on the seats. What an idiot yawn.gif

p/s: NOT trolling, in addition to the latest incident that involved our TS yawn.gif
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Aiya fixed rear strut with Mahihi jor. whistling.gif
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QUOTE(n3w @ Mar 12 2015, 09:55 PM)
Aiya fixed rear strut with Mahihi jor. whistling.gif
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This is rather intriguing, didn't know Mahihi can fix a strut on a GaGa PL1BT series chassis whistling.gif
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QUOTE(Christopher93 @ Mar 12 2015, 07:50 PM)
i set aeroplane clock as it get slower and slower by itself  icon_idea.gif  whistling.gif
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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Mar 12 2015, 08:58 PM)
Admit it, you just wanted more bars in the car(be it cheap and useless) to "look" fast and "feel" stable. The rear lower bar of Ular Cacing has a total different function than what 3MAX ARB does. It's a cross member brace that will enforce the chassis rigidity beneath the rear passneger seats. It's not about how cheap the bar can be, it's the functionality nod.gif

Please bai Ular Cacing rear "STRUT" bar. From the name, 1 can expect the bar supposed to strap on the STRUT, which 3MAX idiotic kind of design conveniently strapped on the seats. What an idiot yawn.gif

p/s: NOT trolling, in addition to the latest incident that involved our TS yawn.gif
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QUOTE(wkwong91 @ Mar 12 2015, 09:31 PM)
donate apa??
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donate me mcD
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QUOTE(ACURARSX @ Mar 12 2015, 08:17 PM)
wassap?
anyone want buy UR bar?
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he is. kindly help poison him brows.gif
QUOTE(mkyo3 @ Mar 12 2015, 01:35 PM)
Which one better to install first  between Ular Cacing  Rear Strut Bar (3 point) OR Side Lower bar ?

I already have Front engine bar and ARB install and wondering which one is give more feel.
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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Mar 12 2015, 08:58 PM)
Admit it, you just wanted more bars in the car(be it cheap and useless) to "look" fast and "feel" stable. The rear lower bar of Ular Cacing has a total different function than what 3MAX ARB does. It's a cross member brace that will enforce the chassis rigidity beneath the rear passneger seats. It's not about how cheap the bar can be, it's the functionality nod.gif

Please bai Ular Cacing rear "STRUT" bar. From the name, 1 can expect the bar supposed to strap on the STRUT, which 3MAX idiotic kind of design conveniently strapped on the seats. What an idiot yawn.gif

p/s: NOT trolling, in addition to the latest incident that involved our TS yawn.gif
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Why you so mad of me buying a different bar ? I bought my ARB very very long time ago and that time I not heard of 3MAX strut bars before.

Give me a link to what topic you are saying as I am not in the loop of whatever you mention with TS
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QUOTE(wanfauzan @ Mar 13 2015, 02:12 PM)
30++ for oil fiter for all new paus. Proton only belas2 ringgit IINM
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rm12.22. you dunno meh? (inb4 proton oil filter only belas2 ringgit ifyounot mistaken. sudah lama tak go proton sc until lupa ady? whistling.gif

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QUOTE(mkyo3 @ Mar 13 2015, 03:22 PM)
Why you so mad of me buying a different bar ?  I bought my ARB very very long time ago and that time I not heard of 3MAX strut bars before.

Give me a link to what topic you are saying as I am not in the loop of whatever you mention with TS
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please chill. he's just trolling. btw, fnf thread is not like kopitiam thread talk. you will be get used to it in here later.

you go consult ACURARSX better. expert on UR. brows.gif

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QUOTE(iskazulka @ Mar 13 2015, 02:37 PM)
please chill. he's just trolling. btw, fnf thread is not like kopitiam thread talk. you will be get used to it in here later.

you go consult ACURARSX better. expert on UR.  brows.gif
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Will you pls stop summoning ppl willy-nilly.

There are active members in this thread who are dealers for UR as well, no need to summon the brand ambassador.

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Will you pls stop summoning ppl willy-nilly.

There are active members in this thread who are selling UR as well, no need to summon the brand ambassador.
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edit :  vmad.gif  vmad.gif  vmad.gif  vmad.gif  vmad.gif
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Tonite come TT we settle!! vmad.gif vmad.gif
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vmad.gif vmad.gif vmad.gif vmad.gif vmad.gif
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dares r3apers iskazulka

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QUOTE(dares @ Mar 13 2015, 04:17 PM)
Tonite come TT we settle!!  vmad.gif  vmad.gif
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BRING IT ON! who came late have to pay teh tarik vmad.gif vmad.gif
fight racing la tonite. ur fofi vs my HONDA!!!! vmad.gif vmad.gif

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QUOTE(iskazulka @ Mar 13 2015, 03:22 PM)
BRING IT ON! who came late have to pay teh tarik  vmad.gif  vmad.gif
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COME LA!! I takut u ada bulu issit!! bruce.gif
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QUOTE(singenggoulee @ Mar 13 2015, 03:19 PM)
I saw a complain in Proton facebook portal.. do you guys have the same experience

https://www.facebook.com/ProtonCars/posts/899384930084993

don't know how proton will respond this question.. will they ignore?
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haha, not sure.... mostly is depend on the SC.... sumore is Savvy, parts less, it might need to wait for the parts... and if the Savvy is AMT GB, thn bye bye as AMT GB got a lot of problem as per told....

QUOTE(wkwong91 @ Mar 13 2015, 03:20 PM)
dares r3apers iskazulka

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i clam wat, i juz follow dares angry je...

QUOTE(iskazulka @ Mar 13 2015, 03:22 PM)
BRING IT ON! who came late have to pay teh tarik  vmad.gif  vmad.gif
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i confirm u will be late, dares always on time or early wan except waifu culik him... whistling.gif
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i confirm u will be late, dares always on time or early wan except waifu culik him...  whistling.gif
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vmad.gif you sure meh'? last time dares lose to me. vmad.gif
tonite he sure kalah again. vmad.gif
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QUOTE(singenggoulee @ Mar 13 2015, 03:19 PM)
I saw a complain in Proton facebook portal.. do you guys have the same experience

https://www.facebook.com/ProtonCars/posts/899384930084993

don't know how proton will respond this question.. will they ignore?
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His mistake....sending his French car back to Proton.

QUOTE(r3apers @ Mar 13 2015, 03:25 PM)
i confirm u will be late, dares always on time or early wan except waifu culik him...  whistling.gif
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Eh dun say....last TT he earlier than me

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vmad.gif you sure meh'? last time dares lose to me.  vmad.gif
tonite he sure kalah again.  vmad.gif
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IF YOU EARLIER I BANG KAW YOUR HONDA vmad.gif vmad.gif vmad.gif
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QUOTE(iskazulka @ Mar 13 2015, 03:28 PM)
vmad.gif you sure meh'? last time dares lose to me.  vmad.gif
tonite he sure kalah again.  vmad.gif
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past is past, further u cant predict it... flex.gif

QUOTE(dares @ Mar 13 2015, 03:28 PM)
His mistake....sending his French car back to Proton.

Eh dun say....last TT he earlier than me

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past is past, further u cant predict it... flex.gif
thts is past, onwards situation cant predict, i confirm u earlier... thts my prediction...  thumbup.gif  flex.gif
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i'll come and go before dares arrive lol. sure win one. vmad.gif
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i'll come and go before dares arrive lol. sure win one.  vmad.gif
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u come and go means ur invisible as no ppl c u means dares win... whistling.gif
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i'll come and go before dares arrive lol. sure win one.  vmad.gif
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tibai.  vmad.gif come settle at TT la. dun tokok here only  vmad.gif
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Saya tak senang macam awak. Go dai pls.  whistling.gif
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dia tak puas hati kerana kena tembak by dares  whistling.gif  whistling.gif
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thts is past, onwards situation cant predict, i confirm u earlier... thts my prediction...  thumbup.gif  flex.gif
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APA NI BUDAK TADIKA BISING BISING!!!! TAK PAYAH KERJA KA!!! mad.gif mad.gif

APA LACING LACING NI?? TESCO OR GIANT MIA SHOPPING CART LACING KA?

Funker, no need honda I race you with lorry sampah

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QUOTE(singenggoulee @ Mar 13 2015, 03:19 PM)
I saw a complain in Proton facebook portal.. do you guys have the same experience

https://www.facebook.com/ProtonCars/posts/899384930084993

don't know how proton will respond this question.. will they ignore?
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- Very colorful England the bugger speaken yawn.gif If he/she lose a job, I wouldn't be surprise it's mainly caused by his poor command in England whistling.gif

- Buying a Plotong, indeed is all about fixing/repairing. Ever heard of R3?
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- Being a Shawie owner, did not lurk around LYN Shawie tered is already losing out. Worst is, he/she owns an AMT doh.gif Which already well known for the frenchy tofu gebox that even a new car can breakdown just like that without warning. Shawie AMT gebox itself already comprise of 3 main important part that is required regular service/repair as preventive action, which makes the ranjiao AMT box a pain in the butt to maintain due to expansive wear & tear item in the transmission.

- Plotong themselves screwed up 7/10 Shawie's AMT transmission by simply putting normal automatik oil in to it. They think changing the car badge can make the transmission compatible with Petronas OEM Plotong transmission fluid, which makes a frenchy gebox to comply with Marehsia weather.

- Shawie stopped production in 2010. Upon that time, KL plate was running on WTX9999. Obviously, some1 got a big diskaun in 2012 to obtained his/her "showroom/testdrove" unit which probably kena trashed by your's truly during test drive session before I purchased mine nod.gif

- Having a problem with SC is "after sales service" issue. The proper channel to get things done is, put it up with tribunal pengguna, not a fucking feisbuk. If TP didn't solve your problem, put the TP case on newspaper. I think Plotong immediately absorb his/her Shawie & had it replaced with hIriz :lol

Call me a Plotong fanboi! If owning a Plotong is stupid, I think ayam stupid powered by 10 liao. Other than Plotong dealers/usedcar dealers ayam 1 of the CONSUMER that owned any 1 time the most Plotong in possession person, yet I only managed to send in 1 time to CoSE for regular service, never bother to go back again.

Making poor quality cars = way of survival for Plotong
Being stupid = too much feisbuking, think complain over feisbuk will get Plotong to respond?
Being stupid, bought a poor quality cheap & discounted car, still bark around with poor Engrish at the wrong channel to the wrong person = CRIME
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APA NI BUDAK TADIKA BISING BISING!!!!  TAK PAYAH KERJA KA!!! mad.gif  mad.gif

APA LACING LACING NI?? TESCO OR GIANT MIA SHOPPING CART LACING KA?

Funker, no need honda I race you with lorry sampah
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Why you so mad of me buying a different bar ?  I bought my ARB very very long time ago and that time I not heard of 3MAX strut bars before.

Give me a link to what topic you are saying as I am not in the loop of whatever you mention with TS
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U obviously no sense of humor whistling.gif Did jiu for 1 moment really think that "ayam not trolling" is not a troll? whistling.gif

The rear lower bar, which I have explained it solely braced between the rear member, hence you can't really feel it much as Plotong GaGa chassis rigidity ady way hai, unless jiu go offroad as I did last time, yes it will be significant. If jiu wang sumting that really change your maneuverability and how the car feels, the side lower bars please whistling.gif But then again, you wouldn't be telling me it's expansive than the rear lower bar again right? Prove me wrong, you're not having some extra cash that can afford 1 piece of 100+ bar so you add a bar under the car & call it a day whistling.gif
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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Mar 13 2015, 07:16 PM)

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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Mar 13 2015, 07:26 PM)
U obviously no sense of humor whistling.gif Did jiu for 1 moment really think that "ayam not trolling" is not a troll? whistling.gif

The rear lower bar, which I have explained it solely braced between the rear member, hence you can't really feel it much as Plotong GaGa chassis rigidity ady way hai, unless jiu go offroad as I did last time, yes it will be significant. If jiu wang sumting that really change your maneuverability and how the car feels, the side lower bars please whistling.gif But then again, you wouldn't be telling me it's expansive than the rear lower bar again right? Prove me wrong, you're not having some extra cash that can afford 1 piece of 100+ bar so you add a bar under the car & call it a day whistling.gif
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side lower bar is fender bar?
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side lower bar is fender bar?
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Back here after so long.

Gonna ask you guys, do you do air-cond servicing?
I went to the shop, they quoted me rm475. I was like, got this expensive meh?
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QUOTE(redshark_999 @ Mar 14 2015, 01:01 AM)
Back here after so long.

Gonna ask you guys, do you do air-cond servicing?
I went to the shop, they quoted me rm475. I was like, got this expensive meh?
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300 out of 475 is for workmanship, becos they have to open up ur dashboard before can take out the condenser to service. whistling.gif
A good workshop will tell you the truth that is not worth to service aircond, the shop you went most probably want to con your money. whistling.gif

Don't fix it if not broken. Our aircond no need service one. if you feel not cold, you can ask to check for coolant level, they will estimate if there is any leakage by looking the % moisture inside the coolant. If they check no sign of leaking but coolant level is reduce, it is normal, you can refill the coolant and test for 3 months. I refill my coolant after my car reach 5 years, nearly 50% gone, but no sign of leakage, they refill coolant for me and now adi 6 months the aircond still very cold. If leakage due to condenser, straight away change condenser + refill gas all those thing only cost you around RM600.

Aircond service is for those cars that doesn't need dashboard dismantle, definitely not our Saga.

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What about compressor oil? Need to change or topup also?
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What about compressor oil? Need to change or topup also?
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QUOTE(coolkwc @ Mar 14 2015, 10:45 AM)
300 out of 475 is for workmanship, becos they have to open up ur dashboard before can take out the condenser to service. whistling.gif
A good workshop will tell you the truth that is not worth to service aircond, the shop you went most probably want to con your money. whistling.gif

Don't fix it if not broken. Our aircond no need service one. if you feel not cold, you can ask to check for coolant level, they will estimate if there is any leakage by looking the % moisture inside the coolant. If they check no sign of leaking but coolant level is reduce, it is normal, you can refill the coolant and test for 3 months. I refill my coolant after my car reach 5 years, nearly 50% gone, but no sign of leakage, they refill coolant for me and now adi 6 months the aircond still very cold. If leakage due to condenser, straight away change condenser + refill gas all those thing only cost you around RM600.

Aircond service is for those cars that doesn't need dashboard dismantle, definitely not our Saga.
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I think mine quite honest. He got ask me got fill in radiator coolant. And see how. If wanna service gotta open up everything and see if got small leakages or not. If not no point also. All this while i thought servicing aircond meant just cleaning the part in front there.. Lol. Thanks for the enlightment. Gas was ok. Measured the temperature with full blast aircond was around 8.3 degree celcius.
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QUOTE(coolkwc @ Mar 14 2015, 10:45 AM)
300 out of 475 is for workmanship, becos they have to open up ur dashboard before can take out the condenser to service. whistling.gif
A good workshop will tell you the truth that is not worth to service aircond, the shop you went most probably want to con your money. whistling.gif

Don't fix it if not broken. Our aircond no need service one. if you feel not cold, you can ask to check for coolant level, they will estimate if there is any leakage by looking the % moisture inside the coolant. If they check no sign of leaking but coolant level is reduce, it is normal, you can refill the coolant and test for 3 months. I refill my coolant after my car reach 5 years, nearly 50% gone, but no sign of leakage, they refill coolant for me and now adi 6 months the aircond still very cold. If leakage due to condenser, straight away change condenser + refill gas all those thing only cost you around RM600.

Aircond service is for those cars that doesn't need dashboard dismantle, definitely not our Saga.
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I just went to flush my condenser oil and refill coolant using a machine nia. Under RM 200 to buat. rolleyes.gif

Putting a pollen filter would help. Air cond still reasonably cold, good to service the air cond because these days weather sooo hot. doh.gif
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QUOTE(n3w @ Mar 14 2015, 03:19 PM)
Reinforce the below chassis kah boss?  unsure.gif
I just went to flush my condenser oil and refill coolant using a machine nia. Under RM 200 to buat.  rolleyes.gif

Putting a pollen filter would help. Air cond still reasonably cold, good to service the air cond because these days weather sooo hot.  doh.gif
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200? They dismantle anything? blink.gif Mine RM100 for same job done. nod.gif

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200? They dismantle anything?  blink.gif Mine RM100 for same job done. nod.gif
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No dismantle lo, wash cooling coil with some liquid, then use what they call a flex machine which clean and flush coolant and compressor oil. Bla bla bla around 185.
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QUOTE(n3w @ Mar 14 2015, 07:13 PM)
No dismantle lo, wash cooling coil with some liquid, then use what they call a flex machine which clean and flush coolant and compressor oil. Bla bla bla around 185.
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How u wash cooling coil without dismantle ?
The cooling coil is behind dashboard..no way can wash without dismantle..no ppl will only wash the cooling coil of our saga because u need take out d dashboard..the labour u pay for that, might as well change new ccoil...
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I just did for blm change ccoil, top up compressor oil, top up gas all in 800 incl. Labour....

For my flx, 70 only for top up oil and gas..
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All sifus, I need your help !

I noticed that my doors are not shut properly; i.e. can see the rubber jutting out from the doors, and not inline when shutting the door.

Can anyone suggest on how to rectify this problem?
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QUOTE(nujikabane @ Mar 14 2015, 09:27 PM)
All sifus, I need your help !

I noticed that my doors are not shut properly; i.e. can see the rubber jutting out from the doors, and not inline when shutting the door.

Can anyone suggest on how to rectify this problem?
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Sell kar, bai VIOS nod.gif
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QUOTE(ruby1288 @ Mar 14 2015, 09:20 PM)
How u wash cooling coil without dismantle ?
The cooling coil is behind dashboard..no way can wash without dismantle..no ppl will only wash the cooling coil of our saga because u need take out d dashboard..the labour u pay for that, might as well change new ccoil...
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Exactly the thing i want to know as well.

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QUOTE(ruby1288 @ Mar 14 2015, 09:23 PM)
I just did for blm change ccoil, top up compressor oil, top up gas all in 800 incl. Labour....

For my flx, 70 only for top up oil and gas..
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You went back SC to do or outsider? I went to Denso authorised workshop where i top up my gas and oil and he quoted me RM600+ only for changing cooling coil whole package including labour. hmm.gif
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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Mar 14 2015, 09:41 PM)
Sell kar, bai VIOS nod.gif
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LOl not a bad idea, but just not for the moment!
Cheaper alternatives please biggrin.gif

I am thinking if spraying WD-4O to the hinges on the car doors, will help it settle the problem.
But then scared if lean to the doors, later door terbuka and will tercampak out the car, hoho
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QUOTE(nujikabane @ Mar 14 2015, 11:10 PM)
LOl not a bad idea, but just not for the moment!
Cheaper alternatives please biggrin.gif

I am thinking if spraying WD-4O to the hinges on the car doors, will help it settle the problem.
But then scared if lean to the doors, later door terbuka and will tercampak out the car, hoho
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Was it the rear passenger door? If it is, chances are the rubber seal detached/out of shape. You may go to reputable mudguard shop ask them to help you align it, apply glue to fixed it in place. Otherwise, will be the striker plate out of alignment. Can simply adjust it to align with the car body.

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Hi I can't seems to find an exact answer on how many liter should I pour atf into my auto saga BLM? Diff mechanic has diff answer .. Some said 4L is sufficient some said 4.xL ... Which should i refer to? Thanks
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QUOTE(cheehoong91 @ Mar 15 2015, 09:43 AM)
Hi I can't seems to find an exact answer on how many liter should I pour atf into my auto saga BLM? Diff mechanic has diff answer .. Some said 4L is sufficient some said 4.xL ... Which should i refer to? Thanks
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Nevermind, I get that alot whistling.gif It's on the thread, 2nd post. Don't know where is 2nd post? Here's the link nod.gif

https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=73165642
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QUOTE(nujikabane @ Mar 14 2015, 11:10 PM)
LOl not a bad idea, but just not for the moment!
Cheaper alternatives please biggrin.gif

I am thinking if spraying WD-4O to the hinges on the car doors, will help it settle the problem.
But then scared if lean to the doors, later door terbuka and will tercampak out the car, hoho
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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Mar 14 2015, 11:42 PM)
Was it the rear passenger door? If it is, chances are the rubber seal detached/out of shape. You may go to reputable mudguard shop ask them to help you align it, apply glue to fixed it in place. Otherwise, will be the striker plate out of alignment. Can simply adjust it to align with the car body.

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It is most apparent on the driver door, and the left passenger door.
I am of the opinion that the rubber seal is keras already.

As a workaround, can I apply rubber restorer to apply on the rubber seal instead?


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QUOTE(coolkwc @ Mar 14 2015, 10:54 PM)
You went back SC to do or outsider? I went to Denso authorised workshop where i top up my gas and oil and he quoted me RM600+ only for changing cooling coil whole package including labour. hmm.gif
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Outside...
Include new receiver drier ? Mine included...
If he really charge 600+ then is cheap..the drier cost <80 only..
So if all in 700 then is good price..
The + sign is dangerous. Because it is not NETT price..
Halfway doing, they may say this n that reason then they will say now no longer 600+...

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QUOTE(nujikabane @ Mar 15 2015, 10:49 AM)
It is most apparent on the driver door, and the left passenger door.
I am of the opinion that the rubber seal is keras already.

As a workaround, can I apply rubber restorer to apply on the rubber seal instead?
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Ofcourse u can thai. Peepur sei once u thai it, jiu wil like it brows.gif

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Nonetheless, silicone rubber restorer wont last. Once u applied, u will have to consistently maintain it on a regular basis nod.gif gud lark
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^ So what's your take on the WD-4O to the car door hook [the one to hook to the striker] ? Good/bad idea ?
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QUOTE(nujikabane @ Mar 15 2015, 12:47 PM)
^ So what's your take on the WD-4O to the car door hook [the one to hook to the striker] ? Good/bad idea ?
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I don't know, I don't hv wd40 anymore and not planning to buy it in future. The better idea is still, sell kar bai VIOS nod.gif
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I don't know, I don't hv wd40 anymore and not planning to buy it in future. The better idea is still, sell kar bai VIOS nod.gif
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Hello everyone smile.gif
I would like to know if we want to change CVT oil, let bawah pokok mechanic or get back to proton SC fix will better?
I just not sure what procedure will involve during CVT oil changing cause my mechanic dont have pc or relative technology stuff to fix if needed.
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QUOTE(jaylim94 @ Mar 15 2015, 08:46 PM)
Hello everyone smile.gif
I would like to know if we want to change CVT oil, let bawah pokok mechanic or get back to proton SC fix will better?
I just not sure what procedure will involve during CVT oil changing cause my mechanic dont have pc or relative technology stuff to fix if needed.
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Preferably go back sc lor. Cvt cannot suke suke use any oil wan.
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QUOTE(n3w @ Mar 15 2015, 09:43 PM)
Preferably go back sc lor. Cvt cannot suke suke use any oil wan.
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I plan to use Mitsu Diaqueen CVT J1. Not sure is usable or not blink.gif
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It is for torque converter based CVT. Can be used in Inspira, BUT NOT for Saga.
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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Mar 15 2015, 11:58 PM)
NO

It is for torque converter based CVT. Can be used in Inspira, BUT NOT for Saga.
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Oh, too bad, then i just use back Proton CVT oil ba sad.gif

Or any alternative brand I can try? Appreciate if recommended smile.gif
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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Mar 15 2015, 11:58 PM)
NO

It is for torque converter based CVT. Can be used in Inspira, BUT NOT for Saga.
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Manual getrag can use any oil kah boss?

QUOTE(jaylim94 @ Mar 16 2015, 12:00 AM)
Oh, too bad, then i just use back Proton CVT oil ba  sad.gif 

Or any alternative brand I can try? Appreciate if recommended  smile.gif
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Use back proton oni, safe and good. Use better oil also i think not much difference.
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QUOTE(jaylim94 @ Mar 16 2015, 12:00 AM)
Oh, too bad, then i just use back Proton CVT oil ba  sad.gif 

Or any alternative brand I can try? Appreciate if recommended  smile.gif
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As long as the CVT Fluid stated that they are compatible with EZL799A, then can use.

Miller's Oil Millermatic ATF CVT is one of them. Or else, just buy Proton's own fluid. It is Petronas Tutela CVT-NG. Both are fully synthetic.

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QUOTE(n3w @ Mar 16 2015, 12:04 AM)
Manual getrag can use any oil kah boss?
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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Mar 16 2015, 12:04 AM)
As long as the CVT Fluid stated that they are compatible with EZL799A, then can use.

Miller's Oil Millermatic ATF CVT is one of them. Or else, just buy Proton's own fluid. It is Petronas Tutela CVT-NG. Both are fully synthetic.
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Oh okay, thanks for the details smile.gif
But which SC you choose to change the oil and approximately how much was the cost for everything. hmm.gif
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QUOTE(jaylim94 @ Mar 16 2015, 12:09 AM)
Oh okay, thanks for the details  smile.gif
But which SC you choose to change the oil and approximately how much was the cost for everything.  hmm.gif
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CKL Pandan Indah

4 btls CVT fluid + labor = RM180. smile.gif
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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Mar 16 2015, 12:11 AM)
CKL Pandan Indah

4 btls CVT fluid + labor = RM180. smile.gif
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I know that shop, is beside that "The Store" building.
I plan to change that oil at COSE. Isit a better choice?
Well actually I can change it nearby my area, but I don't have confidence on them and their equipment is lesser than they should have.
Eg. some sort of PC stuff that update ECU/TCU
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QUOTE(jaylim94 @ Mar 16 2015, 12:15 AM)
I know that shop, is beside that "The Store" building.
I plan to change that oil at COSE. Isit a better choice?
Well actually I can change it nearby my area, but I don't have confidence on them and their equipment is lesser than they should have.
Eg. some sort of PC stuff that update ECU/TCU
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COSE? don't bother.

I like CKL for their fast service time.
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COSE? don't bother.

I like CKL for their fast service time.
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Oh wohkay, I think i can consider there. Thank you smile.gif
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My take on the fluid change, translated in Jimmy style by guessing.
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My take on the fluid change, translated in Jimmy style by guessing.
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last night i dropped my car key suddenly the alarm still working but no sound.
i tot it just the alarm but this morning i cannot start my car. no crank at all but fuel pump is ok. anyone can help me pleaseee??
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QUOTE(sharkz07 @ Mar 16 2015, 09:42 AM)
last night i dropped my car key suddenly the alarm still working but no sound.
i tot it just the alarm but this morning i cannot start my car. no crank at all but fuel pump is ok. anyone can help me pleaseee??
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try use another key first.
did you mean no crank = no 'wueekeke' sound?
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QUOTE(iskazulka @ Mar 16 2015, 08:45 AM)
try use another key first.
did you mean no crank = no 'wueekeke' sound?
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tak sempat liao nak try another alarm cuz rushing to work lucky can borrow friends car.
is it because of the alarm? yup no cranking sound just sound of fuel pump running
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QUOTE(sharkz07 @ Mar 16 2015, 09:19 AM)
tak sempat liao nak try another alarm cuz rushing to work lucky can borrow friends car.
is it because of the alarm? yup no cranking sound just sound of fuel pump running
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Did you try pushing the alarm reset button? The one beside hazard light button
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QUOTE(wanfauzan @ Mar 16 2015, 09:37 AM)
Did you try pushing the alarm reset button? The one beside hazard light button
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yeah i try cranking while pushing the alarm reset button.
but still cannot start cry.gif cry.gif
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QUOTE(sharkz07 @ Mar 16 2015, 10:19 AM)
tak sempat liao nak try another alarm cuz rushing to work lucky can borrow friends car.
is it because of the alarm? yup no cranking sound just sound of fuel pump running
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how to identify which is the problem if not checked the key first. obviously you said earlier you dropped the key. logically that's the culprit. test the other spare key first if it's worked.
iinm my logic is the immo missing when key dropped leading to cannot crank start car. <--- don;t brain me because too much watching air crash investigations.



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your key got split open when you dropped it on the floor?

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QUOTE(iskazulka @ Mar 16 2015, 09:43 AM)
how to identify which is the problem if not checked the key first. obviously you said earlier you dropped the key. logically that's the culprit. test the other spare key first if it's worked.
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press the 2 buttons simultaneously.
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will update later when i get back to work this evening. one more thing ar how to unmute back the alarm sound?
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check the first key if got this chip.

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QUOTE(iskazulka @ Mar 16 2015, 09:55 AM)
check the first key if got this chip.

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whats that immobilizer ar?
but only last night i drive my car with the same alarm key how come this morning cannot?? vmad.gif
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If the chip in the key has moved at all the engine won't crank, it has to be very close to the bottom of the plastic section.
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QUOTE(wankel @ Mar 16 2015, 11:07 AM)
If the chip in the key has moved at all the engine won't crank, it has to be very close to the bottom of the plastic section.
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what do you mean has moved? means it not stick in the car alarm anymore ke?

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QUOTE(sharkz07 @ Mar 16 2015, 11:20 AM)
what do you mean has moved? means it not stick in the car alarm anymore ke?
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means whn u drop tht time, the chip might be move around in the key casing, not in original place... u need to slowly open the key casing and check its the immo chop is misaligned or missing..
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QUOTE(r3apers @ Mar 16 2015, 11:23 AM)
means whn u drop tht time, the chip might be move around in the key casing, not in original place... u need to slowly open the key casing and check its the immo chop is misaligned or missing..
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oh i see. how to open ar just remove the small crew on the cover is it?
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Immo chip alignment got nothing to do with car cannot start la... doh.gif
don't u guys know ur key can use both side ?
if alignment is an issue, then when ur immo chip is at top (when u use the other side of yr key), then the car mai cannot start ?
it doesn't matter where or how u put ur chip inside ur key case...

not to mention if u change ur ori keycase to other design, then how ?
takkan car cannot start...have to use back ORI keycase meh blink.gif

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maybe the key bengkok
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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Mar 13 2015, 07:26 PM)
U obviously no sense of humor whistling.gif Did jiu for 1 moment really think that "ayam not trolling" is not a troll? whistling.gif

The rear lower bar, which I have explained it solely braced between the rear member, hence you can't really feel it much as Plotong GaGa chassis rigidity ady way hai, unless jiu go offroad as I did last time, yes it will be significant. If jiu wang sumting that really change your maneuverability and how the car feels, the side lower bars please whistling.gif But then again, you wouldn't be telling me it's expansive than the rear lower bar again right? Prove me wrong, you're not having some extra cash that can afford 1 piece of 100+ bar so you add a bar under the car & call it a day whistling.gif
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Money is not the issue, replacing the already installed ARB with another one was the issue.. lazy to resell old stuff.

Originally I wanted to know which bar next to install next, not interested changing what I already have although the new model is better.



So enlighten me, between Rear strut bar 3point or Side lower Bar, which one should be recommended to get FIRST ?
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QUOTE(mkyo3 @ Mar 16 2015, 11:43 AM)
Money is not the issue, replacing the already installed ARB with another one was the issue.. lazy to resell old stuff.

Originally I wanted to know which bar next to install next, not interested changing what I already have although the new model is better.
So enlighten me, between Rear strut bar 3point or Side lower Bar, which one should be recommended to get FIRST ?
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Then put the 2 u have mentioned aside for now. The side bars are much better to have IMO. Price is around 260/pair if I'm not mistaken. The rear lower bar literally feels nothing at all, but it's very useful for people who always go construction site where chassis rigidity will be stretched to the max. The so called "strut" bar... c'mon brader, our GaGa don't even have a STRUT at the back yawn.gif Don't know how they come up with the name of Rear "STRUT" bar rclxub.gif

I know budget is not an issue. And if you really sticking to the principal of not spending more than 200 any 1 time, please also consider the ROOM bar. Call me placebo, but it has changed the entire perception of "feeling safe" when attacking corners. Steering feedback amazingly increased despite they're totally not related. I would think the cabin being reinforced, hence there are minimal chassis bending, resulting in more feedback from the front wheels rolling in a more linear basis.
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QUOTE(sharkz07 @ Mar 16 2015, 11:26 AM)
oh i see. how to open ar just remove the small crew on the cover is it?
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yes... but slowly open the casing...

QUOTE(ruby1288 @ Mar 16 2015, 11:29 AM)
Immo chip alignment got nothing to do with car cannot start la... doh.gif
don't u guys know ur key can use both side ?
if alignment is an issue, then when ur immo chip is at top (when u use the other side of yr key), then the car mai cannot start ?
it doesn't matter where or how u put ur chip inside ur key case...

not to mention if u change ur ori keycase to other design, then how ?
takkan car cannot start...have to use back ORI keycase meh  blink.gif
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yes, it will, my car is the sample... my car is not easy to start if u dont know how to tattic start, becoz unable to detect the immo chip... can ask kenjilew he sumtimes also cannot start my car....
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QUOTE(sharkz07 @ Mar 16 2015, 12:26 PM)
oh i see. how to open ar just remove the small crew on the cover is it?
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please read about the effect of losing the immo chip.

http://xes.cx/tag/proton/

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They found the source of the problem within minutes. It was my car keys! Apparently, a chip in my transponder fell off. The chip is supposed to deactivate the immobilizer of my car.
Fortunately, I found the chip in the back seat of my car. Phew. I thanked the EON guys profusely. They were a great help.

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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Mar 16 2015, 11:53 AM)
Then put the 2 u have mentioned aside for now. The side bars are much better to have IMO. Price is around 260/pair if I'm not mistaken. The rear lower bar literally feels nothing at all, but it's very useful for people who always go construction site where chassis rigidity will be stretched to the max. The so called "strut" bar... c'mon brader, our GaGa don't even have a STRUT at the back yawn.gif Don't know how they come up with the name of Rear "STRUT" bar rclxub.gif

I know budget is not an issue. And if you really sticking to the principal of not spending more than 200 any 1 time, please also consider the ROOM bar. Call me placebo, but it has changed the entire perception of "feeling safe" when attacking corners. Steering feedback amazingly increased despite they're totally not related. I would think the cabin being reinforced, hence there are minimal chassis bending, resulting in more feedback from the front wheels rolling in a more linear basis.
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what's the effect on side bar? won't it be more bumpy?
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bumpy or not should be an issue of the suspension
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QUOTE(sharkz07 @ Mar 16 2015, 08:42 AM)
last night i dropped my car key suddenly the alarm still working but no sound.
i tot it just the alarm but this morning i cannot start my car. no crank at all but fuel pump is ok. anyone can help me pleaseee??
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I think ur key chip dah kaput...happened to my friends car before...no crank at all...change the car battery oso same... call proton hotline, & they told my friend to use spare key...and its working fine..
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QUOTE(Jusb @ Mar 16 2015, 01:33 PM)
what's the effect on side bar? won't it be more bumpy?
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Good answer. Basically the steering action will make your back wheels more in check when attacking corners.

QUOTE(mkyo3 @ Mar 16 2015, 01:46 PM)
bumpy or not should be an issue of the suspension
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QUOTE(As^Beauty @ Mar 16 2015, 05:51 PM)
I think ur key chip dah kaput...happened to my friends car before...no crank at all...change the car battery oso same... call proton hotline, & they told my friend to use spare key...and its working fine..
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Very unlikely, they're pretty rugged.
I had this problem in my first week after I'd opened mine to check what chip type it had, the key is very fussy about the position of the chip.
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I've used a bit of double sided tape to hold mine in place as it can slip a bit upstream in the holder, which despite the small movement causes the angst described.
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QUOTE(wankel @ Mar 16 2015, 04:07 PM)
Very unlikely, they're pretty rugged.
I had this problem in my first week after I'd opened mine to check what chip type it had, the key is very fussy about the position of the chip.
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I've used a bit of double sided tape to hold mine in place as it can slip a bit upstream in the holder, which despite the small movement causes the angst described.
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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Mar 16 2015, 06:39 PM)
Y U NO BAI YARIS vmad.gif
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S16 (saga) much cheaper, massively cheaper, money talks when you're spending your own.
Also the Proton looks like it was built for a mere mortal to easily do their own servicing, as well as the dealership put no pressure at all on me to pour money into meaningless add-ons.
The downside though is being told online all Proton's handle terribly, which is quite the opposite of how I feel about their handling, and how bad their build quality is, despite me being unable to find a fault with it.
Bear in mind Hyundai and Kia were also bagged here for ages after their product was pretty damned good, sort of until the baggers realised the peers who they blindly mirror stopped bagging them. I feel Proton are in the same boat, the product is now pretty good but old feelings die hard.

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QUOTE(mkyo3 @ Mar 16 2015, 11:43 AM)
Money is not the issue, replacing the already installed ARB with another one was the issue.. lazy to resell old stuff.

Originally I wanted to know which bar next to install next, not interested changing what I already have although the new model is better.
So enlighten me, between Rear strut bar 3point or Side lower Bar, which one should be recommended to get FIRST ?
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I got my first and only UR bar that is the side lower bars,
After install drive out from shop can feel the difference when cornering chasis more rigid than original doh.gif
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QUOTE(wankel @ Mar 16 2015, 05:29 PM)
S16 (saga) much cheaper, massively cheaper, money talks when you're spending your own.
Also the Proton looks like it was built for a mere mortal to easily do their own servicing, as well as the dealership put no pressure at all on me to pour money into meaningless add-ons.
The downside though is being told online all Proton's handle terribly, which is quite the opposite of how I feel about their handling, and how bad their build quality is, despite me being unable to find a fault with it.
Bear in mind Hyundai and Kia were also bagged here for ages after their product was pretty damned good, sort of until the baggers realised the peers who they blindly mirror stopped bagging them. I feel Proton are in the same boat, the product is now pretty good but old feelings die hard.
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what's the effect on side bar? won't it be more bumpy?
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I have side bar and rolling on adjustables. From my usage in road n track. The front end n back of the car felt more in 1 piece rather than 2. Rear is now more following the front.
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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Mar 16 2015, 04:39 PM)
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Because of that chip dropped, i called uncle david 12 o'clock mid night...hahaha
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QUOTE(daMieNyuZry @ Mar 16 2015, 09:18 PM)
Because of that chip dropped, i called uncle david 12 o'clock mid night...hahaha
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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Mar 16 2015, 09:38 PM)
I like it when u answering me ever so seriously despite I'm trowing a troll wub.gif Lotus handling yo flex.gif
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I'm not good at smilies but I like an excuse to put words into posts, you troll and I blather.
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QUOTE(wankel @ Mar 17 2015, 12:41 AM)
I'm not good at smilies but I like an excuse to put words into posts, you troll and I blather.
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Your side should be 3 or 4 in the morning, do you wake up this early? Or still haven't sleep yet blink.gif
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QUOTE(TitanRev @ Mar 12 2015, 01:50 PM)
I bough for 400 Genuine and DIY install. A note though Walbro got 2 types of in tank fuel pump although most the reference is not clear. Our stock FP body diameter is 37mm IINM the Walbro are 38mm and it will not fit, you need to find the Walbro pump with body diameter which is smaller and the internal design is different. It looks similar to the GS series but body just different diameter. I got the wrong pump and had to replaced them to the right one.

Also our stock harness will be enough to power the Walbro given that your supply is above 12V. With AC and load I'm getting 13. 87V and when rad fan kick in the V dips to 12.50V and back up again. I've already wired my relay kit to power the pump but not utilized it yet because the stock FPR will not able to regulate the fuel pressure if I increase the FP duty cycle. So I will need to run new fuel lines and ditch the returnless system to a return type before I up the supply to 14.60V to the FP and change out the stock wiring to the pump.

I will check again the stock FP diameter and let you know.
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i see. not mistaken the internal of the gs is different from the orientation of the FP position compared to ours.
wiring part im not so pro, but what u wrote up there indeed shud be the correct way. can also use independent power supply to maintain the fuel lines?
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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Mar 17 2015, 02:51 AM)
Your side should be 3 or 4 in the morning, do you wake up this early? Or still haven't sleep yet blink.gif
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02:51 it says. We're fortunate to not suffer that idiotic "daylight saving time"
I'm glad you noticed, I'm getting old and my sleep cycle is a real bugger of late. I get up for a pee, spend some time online when it's quiet and my downloads don't count against our punitive limits, go back to bed when I'm tired again. I don't stay in bed if I'm not sleepy tired, if a bit of Sudoku play doesn't droop the eyelids I often get up again.
Poor health has me on the pension so it doesn't matter when I'm awake or asleep.

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QUOTE(wankel @ Mar 17 2015, 05:28 AM)
02:51 it says. We're fortunate to not suffer that idiotic "daylight saving time"
I'm glad you noticed, I'm getting old and my sleep cycle is a real bugger of late. I get up for a pee, spend some time online when it's quiet and my downloads don't count against our punitive limits, go back to bed when I'm tired again. I don't stay in bed if I'm not sleepy tired, if a bit of Sudoku play doesn't droop the eyelids I often get up again.
Poor health has me on the pension so it doesn't matter when I'm awake or asleep.
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Well, keep pumping my friend. Good things will happen. My mate from Gold Coast decided to quit his seaview apartment and went for Oz tour in his van few years ago. If I remember correctly, he's in his early 80s now. Sometimes, our body is about use it or lose it. May be I am too young to give you a physical advise, but I wish we all make everyday count. zeone is also enjoying his life happily ever after here laugh.gif

Some readings if you have nothing better to do.

http://yeoeleven.blogspot.com/
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QUOTE(TitanRev @ Mar 16 2015, 08:03 PM)
I have side bar and rolling on adjustables. From my usage in road n track. The front end n back of the car felt more in 1 piece rather than 2. Rear is now more following the front.
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I only have front strut brace now. So after putting side bar will have good road holding?
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i see. not mistaken the internal of the gs is different from the orientation of the FP position compared to ours.
wiring part im not so pro, but what u wrote up there indeed shud be the correct way. can also use independent power supply to maintain the fuel lines?
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On wiring side, you can use independent PS but you need to have the FPC to control the triggering of the FP when you turn the key to ignition standby as the FP need to prime 1st. Now all cars have the FP primed 1st before ignition.

Its the same. Draw in fuel from bottom and out from top. But the Walbro fuel pump I have the internal design is the new one using something like a turbine fin blade instead of the bearing georotor like our oil pump. The sound is a bit more silent and it does not have that small valve on the top outlet which I don't know how to describe.

This is comparison between our stock Borsch FP bottom with the Walbro Georotor FP top. Same just Walbro body size bigger a bit.
user posted image

This is out stock FP casing assembly fuel strainer will fit Walbro inlet no problem at all.
user posted image

This is our in-tank FP regulator. When you put in after market FPR on FLX this needs to be disable by plugging the top hole with a cap.
user posted image

Here's a video how it sounds like when hot. Cold time the sound is much louder.


QUOTE(Jusb @ Mar 17 2015, 09:44 AM)
I only have front strut brace now. So after putting side bar will have good road holding?
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Feel is very subjective and your car setup and mine is different so result will differ....

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problem solved!
turned out its the alarm that cause the problem.
pheww i thought its the battery lucky me
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QUOTE(sharkz07 @ Mar 17 2015, 12:44 PM)
problem solved!
turned out its the alarm that cause the problem.
pheww i thought its the battery lucky me
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which one? the key? immo chip? what happen to it?
u say alarm is subjective.
please explain in details.

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QUOTE(iskazulka @ Mar 17 2015, 12:01 PM)
which one? the key? immo chip? what happen to it?
u say alarm is subjective.
please explain in details.
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i think its the immo in the key.
cuz last night i try to start with my spare key and tadaaa no problem at all.
this night i want to open the main alarm key to see whats the prob icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(sharkz07 @ Mar 17 2015, 01:07 PM)
i think its the immo in the key.
cuz last night i try to start with my spare key and tadaaa no problem at all.
this night i want to open the main alarm key to see whats the prob  icon_rolleyes.gif
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told you so. that's the reason we have 2 keys.
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QUOTE(TitanRev @ Mar 17 2015, 11:18 AM)
On wiring side, you can use independent PS but you need to have the FPC to control the triggering of the FP when you turn the key to ignition standby as the FP need to prime 1st. Now all cars have the FP primed 1st before ignition.

Its the same. Draw in fuel from bottom and out from top. But the Walbro fuel pump I have the internal design is the new one using something like a turbine fin blade instead of the bearing georotor like our oil pump. The sound is a bit more silent and it does not have that small valve on the top outlet which I don't know how to describe. 

This is comparison between our stock Borsch FP bottom with the Walbro Georotor FP top. Same just Walbro body size bigger a bit. 
user posted image

This is out stock FP casing assembly fuel strainer will fit Walbro inlet no problem at all.
user posted image

This is our in-tank FP regulator. When you put in after market FPR on FLX this needs to be disable by plugging the top hole with a cap.
user posted image

Here's a video how it sounds like when hot. Cold time the sound is much louder.

Feel is very subjective and your car setup and mine is different so result will differ....
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Nice sharing bro. Would actually ecu would recompensate the higher fuel flowing? Was just thinking because the stock ecu has a pre determined set of fuel settings it would adhere to. Have you done anything on the throttle lag of gaga?

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QUOTE(n3w @ Mar 17 2015, 12:19 PM)
Nice sharing bro. Would actually ecu would recompensate the higher fuel flowing? Was just thinking because the stock ecu has a pre determined set of fuel settings it would adhere to. Have you done anything on the throttle lag of gaga?

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I don't feel any lag in my throttle respond. Step..Go...Step..Go..

Your fuel pressure is regulated by the Fuel Pressure Regulator (FPR), on stock car the stock FPR controls the pressure via a spring attached to a diaphragm not the ECU. ECU only monitors the fuel flow rate and pressure then adjust the PD (Pulse Duration) of injector to control how long the nozzle to stay open and the PD reduces as engine RPM increase. For Borsch injector they are reliable up to 85% of their duty cycle anymore and they will start to fail.

By now you should understand how the injector works and how it is controlled. So you ask will the EU compensate the higher flow rate. The ECU will only control the PD of the injector. Your fuel flow rate will increase once you swap to a high pressure high flow FP. The FPR will detect the higher pressure due to higher flow and regulate it. But due to the higher flow rate even with the FPR trying to bring down the pressure to stock set level. Technically speaking your fuel delivery /hr is still higher than stock pump hence your whole fuel line is has a higher pressure than stock.

The ECU has it's own fuel mapping but it will change slightly to match with the increased fuel but to an extend only. As I have not fully let the Walbro run at higher efficiency so the stock mapping still an coupe with the changes but from my usage I've noticed Fuel Consumption has increased.

Why I change to a high flow fuel pump is because on dyno my AFR is showing leaning issues at Mid to High rev range and overall the AFR is on the lean side starting from low. As I'm preparing to redo my entire fuel delivery system (returnless to return type) I drop in the Fuel Pump 1st then later on will put in an adjustable FPR to regulate and increased the fuel pressure where the stock FPR will not be able to handle anymore.

I drop in the Fuel Pump as a testing actually wanted to see how a high flow FP whether will help to reduce the leaning issue to a certain level and it did. My Mid to high rev now is much stronger compare to before where I can feel the engine starving for fuel. The stock FP was not able to deliver quick enough to supply the engine needs hence on dyno the graph shows a constant ----- only instead of keep going upwards until the fuel cut off kicks in.

Since not much info have gone into detail of the problem, I took things to my own and use my own car as a test bed. I've tried using a SR20 fuel rail but it was not a fit. injector outlet was off by few MM and with the stock pump it will not able to supply enough pressure at all to the larger fuel rail so with now the increased pressure. I'm dropping in bigger fuel rails and see what happens.
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How's it going, everyone? I am not too sure if I should even post this here cuz I am new to this forum. Does anyone has any clue where I can get this bumper? I am not sure if it is legit or just photoshopped. Yes yes, another Audi wannabe, I know. Please advice me on this, kalian sifu-sifu. Thanks! sweat.gif


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How's it going, everyone? I am not too sure if I should even post this here cuz I am new to this forum. Does anyone has any clue where I can get this bumper? I am not sure if it is legit or just photoshopped. Yes yes, another Audi wannabe, I know. Please advice me on this, kalian sifu-sifu. Thanks!  sweat.gif
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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Mar 17 2015, 06:50 AM)
Well, keep pumping my friend. Good things will happen. My mate from Gold Coast decided to quit his seaview apartment and went for Oz tour in his van few years ago. If I remember correctly, he's in his early 80s now. Sometimes, our body is about use it or lose it. May be I am too young to give you a physical advise, but I wish we all make everyday count. zeone is also enjoying his life happily ever after here laugh.gif

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QUOTE(TitanRev @ Mar 17 2015, 11:18 AM)
On wiring side, you can use independent PS but you need to have the FPC to control the triggering of the FP when you turn the key to ignition standby as the FP need to prime 1st. Now all cars have the FP primed 1st before ignition.

Its the same. Draw in fuel from bottom and out from top. But the Walbro fuel pump I have the internal design is the new one using something like a turbine fin blade instead of the bearing georotor like our oil pump. The sound is a bit more silent and it does not have that small valve on the top outlet which I don't know how to describe. 

This is comparison between our stock Borsch FP bottom with the Walbro Georotor FP top. Same just Walbro body size bigger a bit. 
user posted image

This is out stock FP casing assembly fuel strainer will fit Walbro inlet no problem at all.
user posted image

This is our in-tank FP regulator. When you put in after market FPR on FLX this needs to be disable by plugging the top hole with a cap.
user posted image

Here's a video how it sounds like when hot. Cold time the sound is much louder.

Feel is very subjective and your car setup and mine is different so result will differ....
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respect you cause willing to do all kinds of testing on ur own car; eventhough there's no guarantee that it will work. hats off rclxms.gif
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if rosaked also he can easily get it repaired unlike all of us.
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very very informative, thanks for explaining boss  notworthy.gif
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one more dumb question. the last bar on the fuel gauge usually lasts how many km ar?
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one more dumb question. the last bar on the fuel gauge usually lasts how many km ar?
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depends on your fuel consumption.
eg. when fuel meter lit up, approximately left 8 liters out of 40liter full tank.
so 8L * 10km/L = 80km. but letting tank dried up before refuel will make your fuel pump KOed faster. so, advisable don't wait until tank really empty.
nobody ever cares about last bar bar on fuel gauge lasts how many km...

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QUOTE(iskazulka @ Mar 17 2015, 05:21 PM)
depends on your fuel consumption.
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i usually only light footed drive around 70-80km/h everyday to work
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calculate your FC lor, then you can tell what's your FC. can't simply tell the FC based on that.

http://www.fuelly.com/about

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QUOTE(TitanRev @ Mar 17 2015, 03:05 PM)
When you bump into trouble, it's either you face it or walked away from it. I just choose to faced it, learn about it and find a solution to it because no one is going to solve your problem for you. I thank you for the compliment but I'm also still learning. There's much to be learned and I barely skim the surface..
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QUOTE(iskazulka @ Mar 17 2015, 05:30 PM)
calculate your FC lor, then you can tell what's your FC. can't simply tell the FC based on that.

http://www.fuelly.com/about
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if the fuel signal start blinking usually how many km ar it can go before it run out of fuel?
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Just got back my Flx yesterday. Did the repairs at Proton SC.

Well it was the pump that gave way. Luckily clutch all okay. Damnit... the pump made in China... mad.gif vmad.gif

Surely lah the quality like sheet....

Total cost Rm750 +..


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QUOTE(TitanRev @ Mar 17 2015, 11:18 AM)
On wiring side, you can use independent PS but you need to have the FPC to control the triggering of the FP when you turn the key to ignition standby as the FP need to prime 1st. Now all cars have the FP primed 1st before ignition.

Its the same. Draw in fuel from bottom and out from top. But the Walbro fuel pump I have the internal design is the new one using something like a turbine fin blade instead of the bearing georotor like our oil pump. The sound is a bit more silent and it does not have that small valve on the top outlet which I don't know how to describe. 

This is comparison between our stock Borsch FP bottom with the Walbro Georotor FP top. Same just Walbro body size bigger a bit. 
user posted image

This is out stock FP casing assembly fuel strainer will fit Walbro inlet no problem at all.
user posted image

This is our in-tank FP regulator. When you put in after market FPR on FLX this needs to be disable by plugging the top hole with a cap.
user posted image

Here's a video how it sounds like when hot. Cold time the sound is much louder.

Feel is very subjective and your car setup and mine is different so result will differ....
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QUOTE(drfeelgood @ Mar 17 2015, 07:30 PM)
Just got back my Flx yesterday. Did the repairs at Proton SC.

Well it was the pump that gave way. Luckily clutch all okay. Damnit... the pump made in China...  mad.gif  vmad.gif

Surely lah the quality like sheet....

Total cost Rm750 +..
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Glad you're back. Still, 750 for a clutch pump, we're looking at Inspaliah pricing ady doh.gif Quazacolt?
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Glad you're back. Still, 750 for a clutch pump, we're looking at Inspaliah pricing ady doh.gif Quazacolt?
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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Mar 17 2015, 08:19 PM)
Glad you're back. Still, 750 for a clutch pump, we're looking at Inspaliah pricing ady doh.gif Quazacolt?
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see this:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1771264...E%20%28M%29.pdf
item 186 and 187, not sure if the above few more required or not
then labor, gear oil, brake fluid...

actually, not that far off with the getrag? lol
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QUOTE(sharkz07 @ Mar 17 2015, 07:11 PM)
if the fuel signal start blinking usually how many km ar it can go before it run out of fuel?
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It's easy to find out. The next time when left 1 bar there, you start counting and drive until the car stall, then you'll have the exact figure of YOU driving YOUR CAR at that TIME with the traffic CONDITION nod.gif U must be wondering why are people so rude answering your question? Because there's no absolute answer, whatever people has to offer already offered and you're being stubborn asking the same question over and over again. So here you go. My car the last bar usually can drive me 30km before it blinks. After it blinks, I can do another 30km before the car stall. Take note that is only ME driving MY CAR. If it's my wife, then different story. She could have only managed 20km before it blinks, and another 20km before the car stall.

Feels like never answer your question right? It's because my driving style is not yours, my car is not yours. You'll just have to fill up petrol when the last bar start to blinks. I still can't understand why this question has been asked over and over again. Do you really want to have 1 time that you purposely try whether the last bar can stretched 100km and the car stalled at the middle of no where, you'll have to call for road assist to go buy petrol and fill up by the road side? Don't get angry ya. Merely stating the fact jek. If you're going to go rage, please take your car go and test out how far you can stretch until it stall, that will really prove me wrong, this world really got people purposely push the fuel reading until the petrol tank depleted and stall the car.
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QUOTE(nzh0920 @ Mar 17 2015, 08:36 PM)
my fren just replaced in proton sc RM72x for inspira, mitsubishi japan part, if mitsubishi china i can get cheaper by 20% +-  tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Mar 17 2015, 08:37 PM)
see this:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1771264...E%20%28M%29.pdf
item 186 and 187, not sure if the above few more required or not
then labor, gear oil, brake fluid...

actually, not that far off with the getrag? lol
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QUOTE(TitanRev @ Mar 17 2015, 01:07 PM)
I don't feel any lag in my throttle respond. Step..Go...Step..Go..

Your fuel pressure is regulated by the Fuel Pressure Regulator (FPR), on stock car the stock FPR controls the pressure via a spring attached to a diaphragm not the ECU. ECU only monitors the fuel flow rate and pressure then adjust the PD (Pulse Duration) of injector to control how long the nozzle to stay open and the PD reduces as engine RPM increase. For Borsch injector they are reliable up to 85% of their duty cycle anymore and they will start to fail.

By now you should understand how the injector works and how it is controlled. So you ask will the EU compensate the higher flow rate. The ECU will only control the PD of the injector. Your fuel flow rate will increase once you swap to a high pressure high flow FP. The FPR will detect the higher pressure due to higher flow and regulate it. But due to the higher flow rate even with the FPR trying to bring down the pressure to stock set level. Technically speaking your fuel delivery /hr is still higher than stock pump hence your whole fuel line is has a higher pressure than stock.

The ECU has it's own fuel mapping but it will change slightly to match with the increased fuel but to an extend only. As I have not fully let the Walbro run at higher efficiency so the stock mapping still an coupe with the changes but from my usage I've noticed Fuel Consumption has increased.

Why I change to a high flow fuel pump is because on dyno my AFR is showing leaning issues at Mid to High rev range and overall the AFR is on the lean side starting from low. As I'm preparing to redo my entire fuel delivery system (returnless to return type) I drop in the Fuel Pump 1st then later on will put in an adjustable FPR to regulate and increased the fuel pressure where the stock FPR will not be able to handle anymore.

I drop in the Fuel Pump as a testing actually wanted to see how a high flow FP whether will help to reduce the leaning issue to a certain level and it did. My Mid to high rev now is much stronger compare to before where I can feel the engine starving for fuel. The stock FP was not able to deliver quick enough to supply the engine needs hence on dyno the graph shows a constant ----- only instead of keep going upwards until the fuel cut off kicks in.

Since not much info have gone into detail of the problem, I took things to my own and use my own car as a test bed. I've tried using a SR20 fuel rail but it was not a fit. injector outlet was off by few MM and with the stock pump it will not able to supply enough pressure at all to the larger fuel rail so with now the increased pressure. I'm dropping in bigger fuel rails and see what happens.
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Throttle lag for mine would be sometimes when starting in 1st gear, has to be slightly earlier press on throttle, if not sluggish. Sometimes on double clutching on rev-match I do experience throttle opened not big enough though my step on throttle is a lot, it came to a point where I now consider on electronic throttle controller to maybe up the sensitivity of the throttle.

Maybe going for dyno would see some figures, do report on any improvements. I believe after some time the ECU would recompensate on your higher fuel pressure, hopefully would give a positive outcome, ultimately the best would still be a modified ecu eh?

When going for next dyno? Feel wana join, hopefully on a Saturdeh so that I want to know how is my own gaga feel, in numbers; readable and compatible. nod.gif
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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Mar 17 2015, 08:47 PM)
Ayam glad that maikar is BLM, can kompatibulu with Datsun Sunny 130Y, oso can kompatibulu with many NISMO part that fits Langley 1.5 tebu whistling.gif If I were to consider upgred gebox, probably will be Personga/Gentut/BLM TAXI Mitshi gebox. Atleast I get to use Rallyart. Good lark with getrug gebox whistling.gif
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QUOTE(drfeelgood @ Mar 17 2015, 07:30 PM)
Just got back my Flx yesterday. Did the repairs at Proton SC.

Well it was the pump that gave way. Luckily clutch all okay. Damnit... the pump made in China...  mad.gif  vmad.gif

Surely lah the quality like sheet....

Total cost Rm750 +..
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my fren just replaced in proton sc RM72x for inspira, mitsubishi japan part, if mitsubishi china i can get cheaper by 20% +-  tongue.gif
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Glad you're back. Still, 750 for a clutch pump, we're looking at Inspaliah pricing ady doh.gif Quazacolt?
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Yar loh... very unhappy... especially when i saw the box... made in china...

Like wtf...

GETRAG gearbox using china crap.... nabeh...
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QUOTE(drfeelgood @ Mar 17 2015, 10:15 PM)
Yar loh... very unhappy... especially when i saw the box... made in china...

Like wtf...

GETRAG gearbox using china crap.... nabeh...
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Our borsch 500ish fuel pump assembly also china fuel pump...hahahaha maybe they scare if use German parts ppl complain more y so expensive
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QUOTE(drfeelgood @ Mar 17 2015, 10:15 PM)
Yar loh... very unhappy... especially when i saw the box... made in china...

Like wtf...

GETRAG gearbox using china crap.... nabeh...
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QUOTE(TitanRev @ Mar 17 2015, 10:41 PM)
Our borsch 500ish fuel pump assembly also china fuel pump...hahahaha maybe they scare if use German parts ppl complain more y so expensive
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I wouldn't worry too much if the factory OEM are endorsed. I can't imagine if China factory produce crap for BORSH and or GETRUG, what they're going to do with their SLA. It's like nowadays every single thing we use at our home are from China. iPorn Caina, Galexy note Caina, Berakberry Mexico. Make the comparison lar, is Berakberry bulletproof despite not made in Caina? I think it's just 1 time deal and luck lar. And for drfeelgood, I really feel you bro. Angry also no use, wan change gebox mou? brows.gif
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A sad day for Daisy yesterday, she had a breakage of her dash vent.
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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Mar 18 2015, 07:24 AM)
I wouldn't worry too much if the factory OEM are endorsed.
I wouldn't worry in the slightest, China can make any quality from the top shelf to junk, depending on how much the trader wants to pay.
China has a space program that actively sends humans into the void too, not many countries do that.

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QUOTE(wankel @ Mar 18 2015, 07:51 AM)
I wouldn't worry in the slightest, China can make any quality from the top shelf to junk, depending on how much the trader wants to pay.
China has a space program that actively sends humans into the void too, not many countries do that.
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QUOTE(wankel @ Mar 18 2015, 07:39 AM)
A sad day for Daisy yesterday, she had a breakage of her dash vent.
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I saw new addition of bling bling at the vents brows.gif Will it glow in the dark? wub.gif

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hi there, back here with BLM and FLX

FLX SV missing those car passenger in rear grab, wtf

the FLX feel different than BLM
brake seem not responsive, not sure, may be driving habit

FLX pick up faster though, i still scare drive during heavy traffic, minor jam due to the brake

The gear switching is so tight
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QUOTE(mitodna @ Mar 18 2015, 10:27 AM)
hi there, back here with BLM and FLX

FLX SV missing those car passenger in rear grab, wtf

the FLX feel different than BLM
brake seem not responsive, not sure, may be driving habit

FLX pick up faster though, i still scare drive during heavy traffic, minor jam due to the brake

The gear switching is so tight
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If you're never in the rear then why care?
I changed my brake pads to very cheap ones after a month, brakes are much better since.
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QUOTE(TitanRev @ Mar 17 2015, 10:41 PM)
Our borsch 500ish fuel pump assembly also china fuel pump...hahahaha maybe they scare if use German parts ppl complain more y so expensive
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What we dun see... dun make us angry...

When i saw the box... i got angry... seeing the Made in China crap.
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QUOTE(wankel @ Mar 18 2015, 07:51 AM)
I wouldn't worry in the slightest, China can make any quality from the top shelf to junk, depending on how much the trader wants to pay.
China has a space program that actively sends humans into the void too, not many countries do that.
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Yup I agree. China can make the best fakes in the world too..

I also know... china can make a screwdriver costing 5 cents to 50 dollars....

And I would never believe Proton will pay top dollar for its parts..

http://listverse.com/2015/03/15/10-bizarre...appen-in-china/

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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Mar 18 2015, 10:03 AM)
I saw new addition of bling bling at the vents brows.gif Will it glow in the dark? wub.gif

I named her Daisy so a bit of yellow to go with her pale white body seemed right. It doesn't glow in the dark, but as nice as it sounds it isn't really something you want.
I like pretty things, as I age I like pretty things more and more, I think I may be becoming homosexual in the same way as actor James Franco, up to the point of sexuality, then I'm straight!

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QUOTE(wankel @ Mar 18 2015, 08:39 AM)
I named her Daisy so a bit of yellow to go with her pale white body seemed right. It doesn't glow in the dark, but as nice as it sounds it isn't really something you want.
I like pretty things, as I age I like pretty things more and more, I think I may be becoming homosexual in the same way as actor James Franco, up to the point of sexuality, then I'm straight!
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You are 1 funny lad notworthy.gif I like it plain and smooth to my eyes. I wish we have beige color dash trim/door trim. I like my Shawie's interior so much more than my GaGa wub.gif

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QUOTE(n3w @ Mar 17 2015, 09:03 PM)
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Throttle lag for mine would be sometimes when starting in 1st gear, has to be slightly earlier press on throttle, if not sluggish. Sometimes on double clutching on rev-match I do experience throttle opened not big enough though my step on throttle is a lot, it came to a point where I now consider on electronic throttle controller to maybe up the sensitivity of the throttle.

Maybe going for dyno would see some figures, do report on any improvements. I believe after some time the ECU would recompensate on your higher fuel pressure, hopefully would give a positive outcome, ultimately the best would still be a modified ecu eh?

When going for next dyno? Feel wana join, hopefully on a Saturdeh so that I want to know how is my own gaga feel, in numbers; readable and compatible.  nod.gif
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No, the ECU won't need to take few days to re-compensate back the chance in fuel pressure. It will know immediately since there's an O2 sensor. They ECU will know if you running lean or rich once the engine start and drive. It will control the PD on the injector reduce the opening timing. But just look it like this since the pressure is higher before the injector and when the injector opens it will still spray more fuel due to the higher flow rate n pressure.

Just imagine your house water hose
example at
10psi - you open the hose nozzle for 2 secs it spray velocity is 30
20psi - you open the hose nozzle (ECU change) for 1 secs it spray velocity is 50

You see the relation here? it's just example la for easy understanding. As you increase the input pressure the spray out velocity will increase it measn you get more fuel into the CC faster at higher pressure.

Correct me if I'm wrong.

Oh just a small info, your sage injector is 6 holes in an arrangement like this ---> ( ) 3 holes on each side. Spray pattern is in circular form surrounding the spark plug.
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QUOTE(sharkz07 @ Mar 17 2015, 07:11 PM)
if the fuel signal start blinking usually how many km ar it can go before it run out of fuel?
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Hi Bro... notworthy.gif

Firstly, may i say that the abv info is of no significance 2normal car drivers/owners...
Why do i say/feel so?
Cos in Msia, there are so many petrol stations @very close intervals!

Why wld anyone need 2drive their cars till the fuel low lamp starts blinking?
Can some kind soul pls enlighten us re the need 4that kinda info? Tqvm.

Bcos of curiosity?
Rber...the saying.."Curiosity kills the cat"...?
Mayb not kill the cat but damages the pocket? whistling.gif


ps. Me alwaz top up all cars me hv ever owned/used when fuel level is @2 bars left... thumbup.gif icon_rolleyes.gif

Reply below also refers... notworthy.gif thumbup.gif

QUOTE(davidke20 @ Mar 17 2015, 08:38 PM)
...... U must be wondering why are people so rude answering your question? Because there's no absolute answer, whatever people has to offer already offered and you're being stubborn asking the same question over and over again. So here you go.

I still can't understand why this question has been asked over and over again. Do you really want to have 1 time that you purposely try whether the last bar can stretched 100km and the car stalled at the middle of no where, you'll have to call for road assist to go buy petrol and fill up by the road side? Don't get angry ya. Merely stating the fact jek. If you're going to go rage, please take your car go and test out how far you can stretch until it stall, that will really prove me wrong, this world really got people purposely push the fuel reading until the petrol tank depleted and stall the car.
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QUOTE(zeone @ Mar 18 2015, 01:55 PM)
Hi Bro...  notworthy.gif

Firstly, may i say that the abv info is of no significance 2normal car drivers/owners...
Why do i say/feel so?
Cos in Msia, there are so many petrol stations @very close intervals!

Why wld anyone need 2drive their cars till the fuel low lamp starts blinking?
Can some kind soul pls enlighten us re the need 4that kinda info? Tqvm.

Bcos of curiosity?
Rber...the saying.."Curiosity kills the cat"...?
Mayb not kill the cat but damages the pocket? whistling.gif
ps. Me alwaz top up all cars me hv ever owned/used when fuel level is @2 bars left... thumbup.gif  icon_rolleyes.gif

Reply below also refers... notworthy.gif  thumbup.gif
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I, for one won't run my fuel low because the fuel pump gets hotter n hotter when there's no fuel. I always go refill when I still have 2 bars left and just info our fuel tank no partition inside the fuel tank and fuel inlet from tank to the pump assembly is just a small a 1 way tiny hole. With no partition in fuel tank you run the risk of starving the engine if ur fuel level is too low to flow into the inlet valve
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QUOTE(zeone @ Mar 18 2015, 01:55 PM)
Hi Bro...  notworthy.gif

Firstly, may i say that the abv info is of no significance 2normal car drivers/owners...
Why do i say/feel so?
Cos in Msia, there are so many petrol stations @very close intervals!

Why wld anyone need 2drive their cars till the fuel low lamp starts blinking?
Can some kind soul pls enlighten us re the need 4that kinda info? Tqvm.

Bcos of curiosity?
Rber...the saying.."Curiosity kills the cat"...?
Mayb not kill the cat but damages the pocket? whistling.gif
ps. Me alwaz top up all cars me hv ever owned/used when fuel level is @2 bars left... thumbup.gif  icon_rolleyes.gif

Reply below also refers... notworthy.gif  thumbup.gif
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I have done 60+ km after it blinked... not because of curiosity... but because on the way from Perlis (plus) to PP there wasnt any Shell station... only Petronas and I hate Petronas.... so no choice, drive at 80 till reach the first Shell station...

But it was scary and I wouldnt do it again... whistling.gif
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My mechanic said my engine mount is bad that's why car is vibrating. Shall I get OEM engine mount? Since Proton engine mounting doesn't seem to last. hmm.gif

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QUOTE(TitanRev @ Mar 18 2015, 03:36 PM)
I, for one won't run my fuel low because the fuel pump gets hotter n hotter when there's no fuel. I always go refill when I still have 2 bars left and just info our fuel tank no partition inside the fuel tank and fuel inlet from tank to the pump assembly is just a small a 1 way tiny hole. With no partition in fuel tank you run the risk of starving the engine if ur fuel level is too low to flow into the inlet valve
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Hi Bro... notworthy.gif

A truly "Heads Up" there!!

TQVM 4that INsight/INSIDEr info.... rclxms.gif thumbup.gif
Me hv nvr ever subs2 that "Ignorance is Bliss" philosophy.... tongue.gif
More of a "Better 2b safe than sorry" & "Knowledge is Invaluable" practitioner... cheers.gif

QUOTE(drfeelgood @ Mar 18 2015, 04:06 PM)
I have done 60+ km after it blinked... not because of curiosity... but because on the way from Perlis (plus) to PP there wasnt any Shell station... only Petronas and I hate Petronas.... so no choice, drive at 80 till reach the first Shell station...

But it was scary and I wouldnt do it again... whistling.gif
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Hi Bro... notworthy.gif

Fully agree with & support yr last liner... thumbup.gif

Yup, at such a time & faced with such a scenario, any petrol is alwaz better than no petrol!!
Gotta push aside all prejudices lo... True? icon_rolleyes.gif

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