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 PROTON SAGA BLM, FL & FLX Thread V67, U haz CVT Falcon PUNCH liao?

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TitanRev
post Mar 31 2015, 08:55 PM

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QUOTE(wankel @ Mar 31 2015, 12:40 PM)
It appears to be a clutch throwout bearing, and judging by the look of it a rather noisy annoying one.
I haven't come across a directly hydraulically operated one like this before, it seems quite a good idea but like everything you're at the mercy of the quality of suppliers, in this case the bearing maker.
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I thought I was the one having a noisy throw out bearing....mine also having some sound when the clutch is not press. When I press the clutch the sound is gone.
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post Apr 1 2015, 10:14 AM

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QUOTE(THE CLASS OF 13 @ Mar 30 2015, 07:34 PM)
guys possible ah when lowering car cause arb to hit body and thus knocking?

before this lowered oso no knocking jugak haih.
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How much lowered do you do? you need to increase the ARB links length.
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post Apr 1 2015, 01:05 PM

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QUOTE(zacharnie @ Apr 1 2015, 11:56 AM)
Hi Jim,
Any remedy to this issue? we of course don't want see our self being stranded on one of our long drive. We love our SAGA but this is painful for us owners..

Thanks!
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Move the crank sensor and the sensing teeth out of the enclosed area. Like Wira
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post Apr 1 2015, 01:16 PM

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QUOTE(THE CLASS OF 13 @ Apr 1 2015, 11:31 AM)
1 to 1 half finger bro, how ah?
how do i increase the lenght? the link is stock gaga one. got any aftermarket link kah?

but before dis tarak knocking with same setup  cry.gif
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Wah, lowered until that much...can drive ka? I 1.5 fingers gap I also cannot tahan and increase to 2.

1 finger gap I can't imagine.

You need to increase the length of the end links and with such low clearance your ARB is already on load before it even flex.
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post Apr 1 2015, 07:44 PM

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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Apr 1 2015, 02:05 PM)
Bai VIOS. No matter how low also can whistling.gif

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I buy Vios also wont lowered until like that unless I can have endless supply of drive shaft, tie rod end, and LCA.
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post Apr 2 2015, 09:17 AM

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QUOTE(THE CLASS OF 13 @ Apr 1 2015, 02:55 PM)
later i check back la the gap, any issue that can cause the knocking?

and how to increase that? need to change or mod?

bro later if want to let go ur hwl if la roger me ok.
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I have got information from Ftuned regarding this issue. For BLM/FL/FLX that are lowered your stock end links will move upwards in relation to the suspension and this moves the front ARB up and close to the chassis. So knocking will occur due to the ARB curve side as the end links was short. Stock saga end links are 220mm (size 13mm nut). Now I'm using Neo end links at 255~260mm (size 15mm nut). Please take note that you need to specify you need Neo end links as some shop will give you Waja end links. The Neo end links I got was Genuine Mitsubishi end links. Spare parts shop will have those normal one but I saw the quality was not very convincing.
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And from my thinking the short end links will also have pre-loaded the ARB when the car is lowered so you need to remove that load from the ARB. Adjustable end links are useful if you corner weight the car but for our saga we can only do it on the front. Also on stock end links you are limiting the sweeping arc on the ARB. With longer end links the effective sweeping arc of the ARB will increase.

Hope this info helps to fellow gaga owners who lowered the car especially those very low riders.

This post has been edited by TitanRev: Apr 2 2015, 09:19 AM
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post Apr 2 2015, 01:36 PM

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QUOTE(THE CLASS OF 13 @ Apr 2 2015, 11:43 AM)
wah gooding info weh  thumbup.gif  rclxms.gif

how much damage for the neo end links? and how its differ from waja,gen2 end links?

is changing the links is just plug and play as i see the nut size is different from 13mm to 15mm?
my car cornering now is a lot more agile but the roll is too much.  icon_question.gif

thanks bro notworthy.gif  icon_rolleyes.gif
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The Neo end links are not that expensive.

The point here is the length of the end links. Waja end links are shorter.

Changing the end links are easy and can DIY but you need to jack the car up on both front wheels so that you take the load off the ARB.
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post Apr 4 2015, 11:57 AM

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QUOTE(n3w @ Apr 4 2015, 11:05 AM)
Lessons to be learned, for those sagarians out there with problem, do consult onestop centre saga blm flx club before doing anything. biggrin.gif
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Ya, fix at home ownself like me....hahahahahaha tongue.gif
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post Apr 4 2015, 10:39 PM

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QUOTE(n3w @ Apr 4 2015, 01:00 PM)
Not pro la, little simple diy i can do nie.

Hands dirty get it done at the workshop. tongue.gif

Hey how is the new fuel pump? Got it nicely tuned di?
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Everything is good but car FC not that good coz the fpr changes the entire fuel curve. Now low to mid is a bit rich and high rpm is just nice. If I want to low to mid range Afr I will need ECU.
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post Apr 8 2015, 05:17 PM

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QUOTE(Arvinaaaaa @ Apr 8 2015, 03:08 PM)
haha yea..they quite famous in Malaysia.

tomorrow expect some pic of my saga tongue.gif
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Sure very ganas car..
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post Apr 8 2015, 05:25 PM

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Like to share some info to follow saga owners. The front top mount consist of a friction bearing sandwich in between the top mounts and the upper spring seat.

Just to share with you all the friction bearing is from SKF France code BDA-1029(SKF designation is BDA-1029AE) It is a metal encased friction bearing
ID:65.5mm
OD: 100mm
Inner ring width: 19.75mm
Static Capacity: 29,000N
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post Apr 8 2015, 07:09 PM

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QUOTE(Arvinaaaaa @ Apr 8 2015, 05:26 PM)
No la bro..just normal bodykit nie and trd v2 spoiler. .cheapest i can find in malaysia
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Didn't know Sban got such a famous bodykit shop
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post Apr 8 2015, 07:10 PM

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QUOTE(Arvinaaaaa @ Apr 8 2015, 06:30 PM)
bodykit like that but red colour..basic bodykit mainly to colour the kemek at my left bottom when i went over a bump :[attachmentid=4403520]
spoiler like this
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not sure la bro need to tebuk or not..

i suggest u get from slay custom..quite reasonable price include paint and installation

tomorrow i put picture of my car
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arvinaa, so the shop is in Sban town or?? wanna meet up with my rubbish car??
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post Apr 8 2015, 10:43 PM

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QUOTE(Arvinaaaaa @ Apr 8 2015, 07:14 PM)
Ya..u go see thier fb la bro..they mod kaw kaw..below is an example on what they are capable of doing
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Oh mai god...viosaga....too much for me.

QUOTE(wankel @ Apr 8 2015, 07:15 PM)
Thanks for the info, it appears common enough for a mortal like me to source without drama when needed. Heaps of Peugeot use them, while not common here there's way more of them than Proton.
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Glad that it help...will share more with you all when I found more things.
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post Apr 9 2015, 08:06 PM

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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Apr 9 2015, 05:16 PM)
Sifu TitanRev. Zul say u won't stop bcoz u were using Plotong pads vmad.gif
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Hahaha my car slow bai..

QUOTE(kennywee92 @ Apr 9 2015, 07:13 PM)
Project U gua ada biggrin.gif
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Kenny kasi quote. Thank you and how many degrees.
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post Apr 10 2015, 08:56 AM

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QUOTE(Bazinga! @ Apr 9 2015, 11:07 PM)
bhai, tipu la lu ur car slow  whistling.gif  whistling.gif  whistling.gif
standy manbaiiii
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Because I'm a slow driver..i respect road regulation and so many potholes in Malaysia road how to drive fast. Always training hand eye reflexes to aviod holes and bumps...
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post Apr 10 2015, 09:00 AM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Apr 10 2015, 08:53 AM)
i generally agree for the most part however there are some people with specific needs so this may not apply to everyone laugh.gif
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Steering not straight haiya just remove steering and drive the car at low speed in a straight road with no cars then cabut the steering off and readjust the spline and fit back steering...instant straight steering...kekekeke I do this if the steering just tilted 1 side...kekekekek
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post Apr 10 2015, 01:42 PM

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QUOTE(coolkwc @ Apr 10 2015, 09:21 AM)
In Malaysia here the way to do alignment is hook up the machine and tell u 'ur camber run away, need to add camber nut'.... yawn.gif
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Funny, I have went to different tire shops and not a single shop tells me "Boss camber lari jor" when I do Alinemen ....must be my face not the waterfish type....

Back on topic, IMy alignment don't lari much even numerous track days, touge or half year I also don't do...not even do tire rotate. cause I see my 4 tire wear is all same one regardless I rotate or don't rotate...
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post Apr 10 2015, 02:23 PM

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QUOTE(coolkwc @ Apr 10 2015, 01:56 PM)
My last alignment already last for 25k now and i not bother to do it soon . When aligned newly last time the car is swap abit to left, i biar je, after 2-3 months usage, the car can go straight, maybe the tyres shaped to the road condition adi. whistling.gif I don care ueven wear also as i still finding ways to wear out my godlike XM2 more quickly. doh.gif
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Let me get my belt sander and stuff
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post Apr 11 2015, 03:07 PM

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QUOTE(jsnkok @ Apr 11 2015, 02:39 PM)
Thanks to @Titanrev's guide here,getting my rear bearing replaced for RM60/ea only smile.gif
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You are welcome...bought it in bearing shop?

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