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tongyam
post Oct 8 2006, 04:38 PM

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he still able to take back?comment, anyone ?
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post Oct 8 2006, 04:40 PM

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QUOTE(tongyam @ Oct 8 2006, 04:38 PM)
he still able to take back?comment, anyone ?
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Hard to say. He has got to take a long layoff. For his lat and left tri injury. And GH and roid use has taken a huge toll on his body. We can only speculate.
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post Oct 8 2006, 05:25 PM

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Yeeah, you right. It's hard to say. Maybe he'll come back, maybe he don't. Or maybe he'll even consider retiring after this? After this coming year? Who knows? Don't forget he is 42. The only man that won the Olympia at 42 is Samir Bannout. Think of ronnie, will he make it at the age 43? Summore he's injured? Dorian yates only won 6 times and couldnt continue after that because of musle injured, and with politics and Jay newly crowned mr Olympia, it'll be hard I guess!
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post Oct 8 2006, 05:32 PM

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eh seriously......
i think victor's damn good weih.....
vascularity and size all there, why didn't he win?
cutler didn't really look tat magnificent....
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post Oct 8 2006, 05:36 PM

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Oh ya, Jay is 33 this year. Ronnie only got his first title at 34! 1 Year ahead of Jay! . Could this be a new era in Olympia bodybuilding history? We'll see..
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QUOTE(pizzaboy @ Oct 8 2006, 05:32 PM)
eh seriously......
i think victor's damn good weih.....
vascularity and size all there, why didn't he win?
cutler didn't really look tat magnificent....
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It's all politic I guess. Sure Martinez looks good, he's improved from last year, but so did the other. But Cutler got the advantage, he has been in 2nd runner up to Ronnie since 2001, 2003, 2004, and 2005. Both he and Ronnie is considered two greatest bodybuilders in the world at this time. But for me, I go for Ronnie. Plus, he's funny too.
Oh ya..I notice gustavo baddell going down to 6th place? And Gunter 10th? Lol..
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post Oct 8 2006, 08:19 PM

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wow, just watch the vids, ronnie seems much more bigger than in the pictures posted above, isn't it?
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post Oct 8 2006, 11:36 PM

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Perhaps more bigger if you see him in person!
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post Oct 9 2006, 01:14 AM

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QUOTE(Hean @ Oct 8 2006, 08:19 PM)
wow, just watch the vids, ronnie seems much more bigger than in the pictures posted above, isn't it?
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Ronnie is da King!!! But even kings fall sometimes. sad.gif

Yea yea, i'm still not over his loss. Lol. Lemme whine for a while.
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post Oct 9 2006, 02:13 PM

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From Flex500 of BB.com:-

As many of you know I have been working the arnold for years now, even posted pics on my governormills screenname of me and big ron working out together (more like me helping him load plates) at worlds in worthington a couple years back.

I am in no way claiming to be best friends with him at all, but I do keep in contact with him and we have a mutual friend who ronnie is very very very close with.

I won't post the actual emails as there is some personal info on there but between what our mutual friend has said AND through DIRECT emails with ronnie here is a few points......

1. ronnie has much respect for jay, ronnie is a competitor so he was upset, get over it, jay was upset after his losses to. To me and to our mutual friend ronnie has only said GREAT things about jay. This is from an email yesterday....."cut is a champion"

2. ronnie may or may not be back, a few family members of his I know want revenge. We'll see, i'm not gonna act like I know what he is going to do. Like I said I am not family and not real buddy buddy with him. I am not in the know in that dept. My guess is if he can come in injury free and feels good he will try it again

3. ronnie's spirits are high so don't feel sorry for him. he loves bbing and has accomplished so so much. he is happy. whether you are religious or not, he is, and he has God, he is completely at peace and is a very happy guy

4. let me repeat, for all you guys. Ronnie respects all the competitors, especially jay, i have never heard of him directly or through our friend talk down on jay. he is happy for jay. Of course he wishes he would have won, but he is happy.

5. I didn't post the email because of injury info on it. his official statement is there is no injury, take what you will from that.

anyway I talked to our mutual friend today at the gym and he said ronnie is in very high spirits. i just shot him another email so maybe I can post some more news tomorrow.

so congrats to jay, let's have a little more respect on both sides for ronnie and jay. Like ronnie said they are both champions.
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From Flex500 of BB.com:-

new info, I have talked to ron quite a bit recently.....

when asked if he will come back...

"I decided after the show was over I'd be back next year, there is no way that guy can beat me. There is no question I will be back in 2007."


when asked about injuries....

"Trust me when I say I don't have a back injury. That is just rumor that has spead like wild fire.
My physician who has been treating me since the last nineties is a neurosurgeron. If I had a back injury he would take care of it ASAP"


these are just some small pieces of the emails, he had some other interesting things to say but I can't post em

watch out for Ron in '07!

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There's one thing i might disagree here. I'm VERY SURE Ronnie had thsoe injuries. It was so glaringly obvious in the pics. But you guys gotta remember this, NO SPORTS PROFESSIONAL will openly admit their injuries, not when something big like this is at stake.
Let's just hope he plays smart and takes a short layoff to recover. The way he trains, no one can take that kind of punishment on the body forever.
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post Oct 9 2006, 09:07 PM

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He's quite professional eh?

He even said that he'll be back in 2007, we'll see..
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post Oct 9 2006, 09:09 PM

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The clip from mr Olympia 2006. So this is how Ronnie lost..I'm sure Cutler is a happy man now!
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post Oct 10 2006, 12:32 AM

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(Yes Jay's a little 'blocky'. The big difference was Jay's thigh sweep, blowing Ronnie's legs out of the water. Still, Ronnie overall.) I think Weider believed Jay would quit if he didn't win one. Olympia is a two man contest between Jay and Ronnie, so Weider couldn't let Jay quit. Ronnie, on the other hand, probably -would - quit after nine, no matter what he says, so this placement extends the real contest at least one more year. Ronnie'll work like never before to take the unprecendented ninth next year, and then retire, but stepping up his routine risks that he'll injure himself beyond repair. OTHERS: The detail on Victor's lower back makes the top two look like flabby old ladies. Dex has it all, except that part of what makes his waist look so good is 'high' lats: No Olympia winner has ever had high lats.
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Darklight, may I ask? The picture in your signature. Who's that?
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omg..the muscle just freak me off....tongue.gif any idea how to train till like the bruce lee muscle?...i prefer bruce lee kind of muscle..cos i m not tall..so i cannot go for this Ronnie's muscle...

cannot imagine after the ronnie's muscle fit on my body tongue.gif
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QUOTE(dokidoki @ Oct 11 2006, 01:16 PM)
omg..the muscle just freak me off....tongue.gif any idea how to train till like the bruce lee muscle?...i prefer bruce lee kind of muscle..cos i m not tall..so i cannot go for this Ronnie's muscle...

cannot imagine after the ronnie's muscle fit on my body tongue.gif
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More cardio....

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post Oct 11 2006, 03:21 PM

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QUOTE(arnold @ Oct 9 2006, 09:09 PM)
The clip from mr Olympia 2006. So this is how Ronnie lost..I'm sure Cutler is a happy man now!
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Arnold. The link you posted, much appreciated! I was looking for the clip everywhere. Thanks!!!
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QUOTE(arnold @ Oct 11 2006, 11:26 AM)
Darklight, may I ask? The picture in your signature. Who's that?
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Don't know mate. Saw it from another bb forum and took it.

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