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tokdukun
post Feb 11 2015, 11:52 AM

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QUOTE(torreto @ Feb 11 2015, 11:04 AM)
Chris wee video review sux. Always repeat his words. And that girl which doing the Nissan Serena video review like reading straight from the script and so wooden. Video production value wise Paultan > Autofreaks.
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Can't deny that, but still makes good entertainment. His Suzuki Swift Sport review repeated too many times same points, ended up being funny review to me lol.

But his written articles are nice informative reads. PT not much original features eg RON95/97 test, car seats, ISOFIX, wearing seat belt, traction control etc. Then many years ago he/Harve wanted to record E30 ownership, but end up not much writeups (edi sold long time ago anyway). But nvm la, I can understand they must be always busy, can be hard to multitask, so whatever they can write is ok la by me.
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post Feb 11 2015, 01:06 PM

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QUOTE(WilliamHoo @ Feb 11 2015, 12:41 PM)
Yup yup

Pls block pauline tan
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actually i know of this pauline tan, she was quite pretty... but i think she married liao
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post Feb 11 2015, 01:12 PM

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QUOTE(ruffstuff @ Feb 11 2015, 08:47 AM)
The last bit is quite irony.  You'll see the comment if Paultan really did a control test. They will rubbish it and ask for 'real-world' test to use Saga and Myvi.  rolleyes.gif

The fact still doesn't change that using higher number RON give benefit for normal engine compression ratio.  What i believe is the different additives added to the fuel itself that produce different result. Not the RON.
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I guess u dont know really how RON number really works
For higher ron fuel, to prevent knocking retardant are added in which normally longer chain of hydrocarbon into the fuel to prevent the fuel from self ignite. That the additives you are talking about, there hardly any performance additives

If you want more power, you do it by adding higher octane fuel not RON. like pure ethanol, hyrogen etc etc but at the risk tat your car might explode because it not designed to operate in such high energy environment. Baciscally, the more flammable the fuels the better it is, the more power you can gain per litter of tat fuel. To calculate "scientifically' is by looking at the otto atkinson miller cycle etc the car engine is based upon. Again, it took me 4 years to learn about and I am lazy to explain it in details those themo cycles

QUOTE(K3nnYkl82 @ Feb 11 2015, 09:27 AM)
For me its a damn good test.
Actual environment.. Same route.. Same jam or not..
Driver A might be more heavy footed than driver B. Thats why they swap to average it out. The key point is the car maintain same fuel. its a real life test. Control environment result are like what manufacturer advertise lo.. most oso cant get those figurea what whistling.gif

ppl use ron97 have to justify the cost differences ma whistling.gif
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adding more variables make for a more inconsistent result. The fixed variable should be the driver but instead it become the test variable as well

QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Feb 11 2015, 11:19 AM)
kopitiam people (that guys is clearly one of them) will still rubbish what you said.

if PT have access to those lab equipments, i think PT wouldn't be doing just simple car blogs only laugh.gif
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In retrospect to your answer, Public uni rent those equipments for a reasonable fees for a valid reason
UM, USM, UTM and any respectable university mechnical lab will have it and it available for public use

The only thing you have to do is write to the dean and explain why you want to use it.
Of course, it will be more difficult to have those High performance lab like the one used in P1 and P2. The main reason why it difficult because engine fuel consumption is a closely guarded secret rolleyes.gif

at least I better than some wikepedia warrior that think they know everything by reading wikepedia
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post Feb 11 2015, 01:15 PM

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QUOTE(thpace @ Feb 11 2015, 01:12 PM)
I guess u dont know really how RON number really works
For higher ron fuel, to prevent knocking retardant are added in which normally longer chain of hydrocarbon into the fuel to prevent the fuel from self ignite. That the additives you are talking about, there hardly any performance additives

If you want more power, you do it by adding higher octane fuel not RON. like pure ethanol, hyrogen etc etc but at the risk tat your car might explode because it not designed to operate in such high energy environment. Baciscally, the more flammable the fuels the better it is, the more power you can gain per litter of tat fuel. To calculate "scientifically' is by looking at the otto atkinson miller cycle etc the car engine is based upon. Again, it took me 4 years to learn about and I am lazy to explain it in details those themo cycles
adding more variables make for a more inconsistent result. The fixed variable should be the driver but instead it become the test variable as well
In retrospect to your answer, Public uni rent those equipments for a reasonable fees for a valid reason
UM, USM, UTM and any respectable university mechnical lab will have it and it available for public use

The only thing you have to do is write to the dean and explain why you want to use it.
Of course, it will be more difficult to have those High performance lab like the one used in P1 and P2. The main reason why it difficult because engine fuel consumption is a closely guarded secret rolleyes.gif

at least I better than some wikepedia warrior that think they know everything by reading wikepedia
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So are you saying that we should always pump RON97?
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post Feb 11 2015, 01:19 PM

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If you want more power, you do it by adding higher octane fuel not RON.

tiu lo, looks like another MON97 case

but he sounds like professor la, write letter can straight away loan any university equipment.

clueless kuli like me who know nothing besides reading up google/wiki dare not question/challenge.

QUOTE(thpace @ Feb 11 2015, 01:12 PM)
at least I better than some wikepedia warrior that think they know everything by reading wikepedia
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ok bro i just google/wiki, i know nothing.
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post Feb 11 2015, 01:21 PM

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QUOTE(ruffstuff @ Feb 11 2015, 01:15 PM)
So are you saying that we should always pump RON97?
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no,ron 97 no good from what he write,what he mean we should pump pure ethanol, hyrogen etc etc whistling.gif

This post has been edited by newmaster: Feb 11 2015, 01:22 PM
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post Feb 11 2015, 01:23 PM

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QUOTE(ruffstuff @ Feb 11 2015, 01:15 PM)
So are you saying that we should always pump RON97?
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nope.. i personally pump ron95 just because it cheaper
The reason why 97 is more expensive is because it marketed to high performance vehicles meaning more strict quality controls which inversely increased it base line cost. The strict quality control is just better filtering and more constant quality lab test. Again, it just marketing rolleyes.gif

If want more power octane, you should ask to petronas shell etec to introduce ethanol fuel mixture, then you can get better power per litter plus cleaner burning fuel.
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post Feb 11 2015, 01:27 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Feb 11 2015, 01:19 PM)
K3nnYkl82

tiu lo, looks like another MON97 case

but he sounds like professor la, write letter can straight away loan any university equipment.

clueless kuli like me who know nothing besides reading up google/wiki dare not question/challenge.
ok bro i just google/wiki, i know nothing.
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If you, you can ask him to contact me and i will try to ask for him for a equipment loan at either of those university

Of course he have to pay because the technician would have to set it up, It a pain in a ass to set up anyway


QUOTE(newmaster @ Feb 11 2015, 01:21 PM)
no,ron 97 no good from what he write,what he mean we should pump pure ethanol, hyrogen etc etc  whistling.gif
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well, if can natural gas is better fuel if you can cramp more gas into the combustion chamber meaning higher pressure

sadly, NGV run on reduce pressure environment to comply to safety requirement
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post Feb 11 2015, 02:03 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Feb 11 2015, 01:06 PM)
actually i know of this pauline tan, she was quite pretty... but i think she married liao
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Tackle la dia bang whistling.gif
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thread about paultan moving to RON usage. come one peeps. lets get back to the topic.

anyhow, it's his website. those who hate his review can just let it be. no harm done to you
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post Feb 11 2015, 04:19 PM

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QUOTE(maraippo @ Feb 11 2015, 02:14 PM)
thread about paultan moving to RON usage. come one peeps. lets get back to the topic.

anyhow, it's his website. those who hate his review can just let it be. no harm done to you
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What trigger the issue, the the RON95/97 articles where /k/ accuse him bias/paid reviewer.
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post Feb 11 2015, 04:34 PM

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QUOTE(zaman_chem @ Feb 11 2015, 12:23 AM)
gud for them..so no need to make stupid comment thumbup.gif
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post Feb 12 2015, 06:53 AM

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Was a loyal reader of PT, but not anymore after all the butthurt. Sorry not sorry.
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post Feb 12 2015, 07:26 AM

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i start from read autofreak late 2013..but autofreak comment section krik..krik..krik until now...if u say paultan review paid review..autofreak oso same..just u guy read Iriz article paultan (infokereta) n compare with autofreak, funtaticko, topgear, wemotor, lifelivedrive, cbt, automania, arenakereta, autoworld, geartinggi, astroawani...all give same review..why u guy oni say paultan is paid review?
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QUOTE(zaman_chem @ Feb 12 2015, 07:26 AM)
i start from read autofreak late 2013..but autofreak comment section krik..krik..krik until now...if u say paultan review paid review..autofreak oso same..just u guy read Iriz article paultan (infokereta) n compare with autofreak, funtaticko, topgear, wemotor, lifelivedrive, cbt, automania, arenakereta, autoworld, geartinggi, astroawani...all give same review..why u guy oni say paultan is paid review?
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QFT.
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post Feb 12 2015, 08:53 AM

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QUOTE(lucifah @ Feb 10 2015, 07:14 PM)
OK, one local website removed from my fav list

this is no way to treat your readers

"A forum full of defamatory clowns"

"They are all anonymous cowards on a forum"

"Retards..."
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anyone who states these sort of things i lose respect. coz the internet is full of ppl, theres definitely trolls and etc. clumping them all together as a "forum full of defamatory clowns" includes anyone who actually supports him that uses the forum.

way to go
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post Feb 12 2015, 09:04 AM

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QUOTE(zaman_chem @ Feb 12 2015, 07:26 AM)
i start from read autofreak late 2013..but autofreak comment section krik..krik..krik until now...if u say paultan review paid review..autofreak oso same..just u guy read Iriz article paultan (infokereta) n compare with autofreak, funtaticko, topgear, wemotor, lifelivedrive, cbt, automania, arenakereta, autoworld, geartinggi, astroawani...all give same review..why u guy oni say paultan is paid review?
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probably because the tone of paultan is almost as if proton completely revolutionized the malaysian motoring industry

annddddddd

maybe the fact only paultan was the official web partner for the iriz launch and coverage and exclusives and nobody else ?
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Never really into car thing and only click links on lowyat upon seeing it, I think PT will be losing more visits than he thought will matter.

maybe you guys should start quoting links to other sites such as http://www.autofreaks.com/ ,http://www.topgear.com/my/, sites I never knew existed, because everybody seems to be quoting PT in their threads link.

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QUOTE(r3d2 @ Feb 12 2015, 09:15 AM)
Never really into car thing and only click links on lowyat upon seeing it, I think PT will be losing more visits than he thought will matter.

maybe you guys should start quoting links to other sites such as http://www.autofreaks.com/ ,http://www.topgear.com/my/, sites I never knew existed, because everybody seems to be quoting PT in their threads link.
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Will definitely do so.
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Not sure why PT put that statement but it is not good blaming forums.

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