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 Oil & Gas Careers V7, Upstream and Downstream, rise early, work hard, strike oil

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post Mar 9 2015, 03:43 PM

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QUOTE(mohdyakup @ Mar 9 2015, 01:36 PM)
ATCPE stand for Armada TCPE Sdn Bhd.

Why must be drilling to earn good money in O&G?????? Asyik2 nak kerja driller. Other profession can earn money much more better than driller. Aku punya gaji lagi besar dari entry level driller lulz.

Bengang aku.
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Actually other profession also can earn regardless like you said. Big salary comes when you learn to climb up the ladder, regardless is land or sea. My dad used to work part office part rig also earn as much as those drilling supervisors (maybe more if he finds a lot of oil, with bonus taken into accounts).

Many people want to earn the offshore hardship allowance because paid in USD (good if you work at lower currency country like Malaysia, come back can spend like king)
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post Mar 9 2015, 03:52 PM

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QUOTE(mohdyakup @ Mar 9 2015, 03:48 PM)
Yeah I know that. Too bad I choose another profession apart from my overweight body else aku pun dah lama jadi driller too ahahahahahahahaha

Saya sekadar pencacai dalam industry minyak dan gas ini... Menjadi tukang tolak document...
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QS also important bro. Cannot let money flow other places but our pockets only.
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post Mar 10 2015, 11:21 AM

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QUOTE(meonkutu11 @ Mar 9 2015, 04:07 PM)
Agreed..how's life Bro? already jump ship?
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Good Day meonkutu11, already jump since i saw the price oil drop. Now working downstream for LNG project at Indonesia Donggi, Matindtok and Singapore JAC as well. Later have to work for RAPID and Shell Bukom soon.

How is life going?
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post Mar 10 2015, 11:24 AM

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QUOTE(mohdyakup @ Mar 9 2015, 09:24 PM)
My profession - 70% money 30% passion (I hate my job anyway).

Jujur.
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abang, not trying to cucuk here. tapi be a bit careful. banyak orang can google their own name and later find this forum. hahahaha tongue.gif
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post Mar 10 2015, 11:37 AM

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QUOTE(viole @ Mar 9 2015, 09:29 PM)
haih, last2 minute i get offer to be field engineer. tengah fikir2 to follow money or follow dream (kuli in local instrumentation company).

so bro yakup tak tension ke hadap kerja hari2? pastu each end month happy  laugh.gif
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instrumentation good field bro you boleh masuk a lot of field later on. Both up and downstream pun need you. Boleh join drilling well control, electrical generation company, Rolls-Royce, OnG client, chemical plant. You become very versatile. You macam kunci boleh masuk banyak lubang. rclxms.gif

Tahan sahaja.
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post Apr 14 2015, 02:29 PM

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QUOTE(lancer193 @ Apr 10 2015, 07:52 PM)
well, I will have to agree with you. Keppel Corp and sembawang are one of the largest rig and marine builder in the world.
Exploration for Malaysia mainly in kbb and sabah deepwater area right? I'm not so sure.

What about downstream refinery? I heard exxonmobil refinery in jurong is one of the largest in the world? where did they get their source of crude from? Terengganu field?

Since exxon been pacing out from Malaysia field for quite sometime  hmm.gif
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Large super tankers from Saudi and other oil producing country.

FYI. Singapore have an underground city storage for crude called Rock Cavern.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jurong_Rock_Caverns

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post Apr 14 2015, 11:13 PM

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QUOTE(HeReLiSm @ Apr 14 2015, 03:24 PM)
Good stuff  nod.gif  thumbup.gif
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post Apr 14 2015, 11:31 PM

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QUOTE(skypeace @ Apr 14 2015, 09:10 PM)
hi seniors, I would like know:
Gas metering vs filtration & pressure vessel, both doing oil & gas field.
which one has better future career path?
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Gas metering will most probably go into instrumentation, you will transit into DCS later. APC + MES for more hardcore controls. Gas metering is pretty good when OnG company need to audit the total flow of gas coming from the field/rig from all directions (No meter mean no monies baby!).

The rest of your measurement could be used for other applications. Usually they also have gas chromatography as an extra details about the gas flowing through that pipe.

If you are keen, you will have to learn alot about control valve (the eye,mouth and hands of the pipeline), PID software (the brains), DCS (the heart and veins),instrumentation, process simulation software (dynamic and linear) all about control of flow, pressure and temperature.

You cannot believe how much people will cry when things are not flowing!
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post Apr 14 2015, 11:54 PM

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QUOTE(Stamp @ Apr 12 2015, 01:38 PM)
It's outright stupid. Enough said.
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You be suprised how many people want to suck at OnG tits by blaming us for every fucking global warming.

But the fact that they forgot the very fact that the food that they get on their table is the cause of global warming. Growing population = more people makan. Thus, huge amount of forest make way for agriculture, cow producing more methane than the OnG shale fracking.

Talk about sea food pollution when the world consumes more fish than the rate of fish populating. I wonder which will cause the sea creatures to extinct first, we eating them or OnG pollution?
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post Apr 14 2015, 11:59 PM

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QUOTE(skypeace @ Apr 14 2015, 11:45 PM)
thats mean you think choosing gas metering is better? I am from mechanical background.
ya. i believe Gas metering can learn more variety, but currently the filtration company offers better package than gas metering company. about 14% higher basic salary. thats the dilemma im encountering...
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I am just letting you know things that are related to my job.

One crucial thing I learned in the OnG industry is never be a lalang being blown by the wind. I make up my mind and heart and pursue what I truely love to do.

Take a bit of time. Read and see what you really desire. You dont want to be stuck crawling in a shit hole for 10 years to find out you made a mistake.

This post has been edited by razo2: Apr 14 2015, 11:59 PM
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post Apr 15 2015, 12:47 PM

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QUOTE(skypeace @ Apr 15 2015, 08:58 AM)
Are u working in gas metering industry?
I cant predict how my future and how the future trend will be. I do not have specific interest that tells what I can truely love to work on.
I think I will choose the filtration and pressure vessel co.
Thanks, mr razo2.
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I am in a company that does the instrumentation, DCS and APC.

Just to share my background, I love controls, programming and instrumentation because it is something really challenging in every way you view it. But what really drives me is the love for solving logical problems. I cannot tahan a job that only sit down there and rot without thinking hard, I will die on the spot.

It is a love since young as 12 years old when I first do C programming. So i ask my dad (an Exxon offshore man, geology to be exact) the field and things how the business is done. Unfortunately I didnt enroll into geology, but i know some stuff about it.

Mechanical is interesting as well. Last time i used to think is easy stuff, but fuck me dead i was dead wrong about that. I learned about how hydraulic stuff works, mechanical pumps, compressors, davits, electrical motors is good experience but i prefer something with more controls. Get very interesting when you have to deal with a freaking old equipment and how you need to take them apart without messing up.

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post Apr 16 2015, 11:23 AM

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QUOTE(stupidbo @ Apr 15 2015, 10:48 AM)
hi to otai-otai in O&G industry,

for your information, i am a recent petroleum engineering graduate and currently i am working as a contract staff with a company which is mainly focusing on upstream pipeline/piping static equipment maintenance.however, due to the current downturn and unfavorable situation to the company, company decided to let me go away and this decision is solely made based on business decision. well, what i think is letting me go away is way better than letting employee which has high family commitment to go away(i am in the age of 27. can be consider as still single minded with low family commitment.no hurt feelings). so, meaning to say i am in the stage of actively looking for a new job in oil and gas industry.

i know currently the upstream E&P sector looks really bad. but still I have the enthusiasm and motivation to join back E&P sector, thus, i decided to pour in every single cents i earned in the past and invest in some professional certificate. for example, IWCF level 2 certificate.

so, my question is: in the eyes of the recruiters, will I stands out among the other candidates if I have this kind of qualification when opportunities arise?thank you
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Join downstream. With RAPID going on you might be able to squeeze some space into the wagon.
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post Apr 16 2015, 11:31 AM

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QUOTE(skypeace @ Apr 15 2015, 02:12 PM)
from your words i believe ur are no challenge no life kinda ppl.
I am not that ambitious, certain stress is ok but not too much.
keep it up bro, u shall be the future leader.
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Is ok. People have different life choices.
I am just inspired by my dad as a field man.

I am sure we will meet one day or another when you had found your dreams of a specialty that you love.
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post Apr 16 2015, 07:13 PM

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QUOTE(mohdyakup @ Apr 15 2015, 06:10 PM)
Bro, stress level is very high in O&G. Very very high. Hehe.
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Client squeeze balls and tits till purple. Ask you grow one more tits as well so they can start squeezing it too.
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post Apr 17 2015, 08:09 AM

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QUOTE(viole @ Apr 15 2015, 09:09 PM)
bro, i'm from plc background. i really want to join dcs side. do you think exp in plc help? or should i jump fast?
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Yes, PLC exp does help it is a level 1 out of the 4 levels.

DCS need more networking and PID controls experience. That is level 2 stuff. With also process simulation which leads to APC. C#,WCF,OPC and OOP also comes in handy in this job.

Level 3 is where all DCS keeps the data that they gathered called the historian. This consist of KPI calculations, Loss, inventory, plant reliability, equipment maintenance management,OMS, mass balance, shipping schedule, lab test data, operator and workflow schedules.

Level 4 is MES where you display data into cloud system via the browser. This includes the whole plant operator display, all of level 3 stuff i mentioned in the browser so the big man can to screw those that fucks up around the plant.

If you are going deeper into integration, you need Java,VBA,C#,C++,SQL/SAP,OOP,HTML,OPC,WCF for higher level (almost every programming language you need to know them all). It moves into IT gradually when you go higher up the level. But all in all the concept of the work is pretty much the same, just that one is factory floor level (aka operators) and the other is business level (aka managers).

Jumping is up to you. But i suggest for DCS Cisco certificate is pretty nice stuff to have. You can program those switch, routers, hubs easily without external contractors. Adds to your resume as well.

If you feel that you are ready, why not jump?

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post Apr 17 2015, 01:38 PM

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QUOTE(mohdyakup @ Apr 17 2015, 08:29 AM)
My manboobs has been squeezed so tight right now  sad.gif
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what to do. oil price drop like that sure kena squeeze.
today schlumberger announce another cut of 11k people out the door.
that will be a total of 20k people fired this year. 1/6 of the company gone liao.

I am just thankful that they still employ people in such hard recession.
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QUOTE(echobrainproject @ Apr 17 2015, 03:04 PM)
so i guess next time interview fresh candidate must squeeze balls and tits as a test  brows.gif
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Fresh Grad have to offer 4th tits. Smile when interviewers squeeze them and ask for more!
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post Apr 21 2015, 10:01 AM

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QUOTE(echobrainproject @ Apr 17 2015, 03:04 PM)
so i guess next time interview fresh candidate must squeeze balls and tits as a test  brows.gif
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Fresh Grad have to offer 4th tits. Smile when interviewers squeeze them and ask for more!
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post Apr 23 2015, 11:33 AM

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QUOTE(VWXYZ @ Apr 21 2015, 06:39 PM)
Bro, u knw which vendor secure the DCS job for petronas flng? How about the shutdown system/ fire and gas?
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Yeah Yokogawa. FLNG awarded 1 month ago.

http://www.yokogawa.com/pr/news/2015/pr-ne...015-0325-en.htm

They secure a lot of projects with petronas, shell (SG), exxon (SG). They got Rapid, Shell Bukom upgrade.
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post Apr 28 2015, 12:51 PM

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QUOTE(zalambur @ Apr 27 2015, 07:33 PM)
Any one know the salary range for project engineer in Singapore shipyard engineering department? Got an interview there but thinking is it worth it to attend as I am currently in oil and gas already. There are many Indian national and China national fighting for job in Singapore, 12 years experience asking 4k SGD.
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12 years exp 4k SGD. Do call me crazy but that is real shit pay. 12 years exp surely can command more like 6 to 7k SGD min.

Shipyard suppose to get 8 months bonus but hell man you have to marry the shipyard if you plan to get a family. Boleh cucuck kapal/rig tiap-tiap hari .No weekend, no public holiday, OT 10 bucks an hour, no time off unless is your annual leave. Dont forget if you take one weekend off without a valid reason be prepared to see your 8 months bonus drop to 6 months, then 4 months then none. Lol.

Alot work after 10 years join suveyor. Better pay and life. If you like to go fab site then this is your whore house. Most of the time they get contractor do the specialist job. Shipyard engineers are like PE and PM.

You are better off working offshore get hardship allowance of USD 100 bucks for starters.

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