QUOTE(gark @ Feb 26 2015, 10:34 AM)
haha red is good, but bullet run out very fast Traders Kopitiam! V7
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Feb 26 2015, 10:37 AM
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Average up...not average down
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Feb 26 2015, 04:34 PM
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QUOTE(gark @ Feb 26 2015, 02:12 PM) Don't agree....laBuying at fair value means nothing...... COS ........in this game you only make money.....when it increases in value..... .....and you and I know that a fair value stock carries the risk of becoming LESs valuable... I rather die die buy stocks which has a chance of becoming MORE valuable.... |
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Feb 26 2015, 04:47 PM
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Feb 26 2015, 05:09 PM
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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Feb 26 2015, 03:57 PM) You can find value in any company....YES..... ANY company.... that includes rubbish companies..... how can the INVestor mitigates the risk of not buying a company whose value keep on diminishing? Learn from Biffett.... he once said ..... growth is an integral part of value. Understand this ......... (more important than you pasting un necessary info all over lowyat forum |
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Feb 26 2015, 05:29 PM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Feb 26 2015, 04:34 PM) Don't agree....la Bah.. value not only means $$$ or EPS.. Buying at fair value means nothing...... COS ........in this game you only make money.....when it increases in value..... .....and you and I know that a fair value stock carries the risk of becoming LESs valuable... I rather die die buy stocks which has a chance of becoming MORE valuable.... of course you need to take account of the EPS growth rate.. Example below ... A PE 12x company with declining growth is overvalue... A PE 16x company with good growth rate is undervalue.. A PE 8x company with decent DY% and stagnant growth rate is fairly valued.. My take is on.. Fair value means PE = Dy% + Long term Growth rate % Under value means PE< Dy% + long Term Growth rate % Over value means PE> Dy% + long Term Growth rate % This post has been edited by gark: Feb 26 2015, 05:35 PM |
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Feb 26 2015, 05:35 PM
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QUOTE(gark @ Feb 26 2015, 05:29 PM) Bah.. value not only means $$$ or EPS.. Wah. PE=5..... of course you need to take account of the EPS growth rate.. Example below ... A PE 12x company with declining growth is overvalue... A PE 16x company with good growth rate is undervalue.. A PE 8x company with decent DY% and stagnant growth rate is fairly valued.. My take is on.. Fair value means PE = Dy% + Long term Growth rate % Under value means PE< Dy% + long Term Growth rate % Over value means PE> Dy% + long Term Growth rate % |
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Feb 26 2015, 05:39 PM
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Tiger Bank..
Higher earning + nice divvy.. » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « This post has been edited by gark: Feb 26 2015, 05:42 PM |
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Feb 26 2015, 05:51 PM
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QUOTE(gark @ Feb 26 2015, 05:29 PM) Bah.. value not only means $$$ or EPS.. Die.....so many equations.....I shall never pass.....of course you need to take account of the EPS growth rate.. Example below ... A PE 12x company with declining growth is overvalue... A PE 16x company with good growth rate is undervalue.. A PE 8x company with decent DY% and stagnant growth rate is fairly valued.. My take is on.. Fair value means PE = Dy% + Long term Growth rate % Under value means PE< Dy% + long Term Growth rate % Over value means PE> Dy% + long Term Growth rate % If no pass...can still make money? |
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Feb 27 2015, 10:32 AM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Feb 26 2015, 05:51 PM) Can...Overvalue stocks can become even more overvalue... Undervalue stocks can become even more undervalue.. All depends on investor sentiment.. Investing is more 'art' than 'science'... |
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Feb 27 2015, 10:54 AM
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The day wenqing mention bout SHL, it went up till today.
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