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zDarkForceSz
post Feb 26 2015, 10:36 AM

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QUOTE(gark @ Feb 26 2015, 10:34 AM)
I also hope for market price runtuh..  brows.gif
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post Feb 26 2015, 10:37 AM

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Average up...not average down whistling.gif
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post Feb 26 2015, 01:29 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Feb 26 2015, 10:37 AM)
Average up...not average down whistling.gif
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Buying rights, not buying more wrongs. whistling.gif
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post Feb 26 2015, 02:12 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Feb 26 2015, 10:37 AM)
Average up...not average down whistling.gif
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Buy at fair value...not at overvalue whistling.gif
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post Feb 26 2015, 02:14 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Feb 26 2015, 10:37 AM)
Average up...not average down whistling.gif
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Then, have you averaged up on Karex whistling.gif
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post Feb 26 2015, 02:56 PM

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QUOTE(river.sand @ Feb 26 2015, 02:14 PM)
Then, have you averaged up on Karex  whistling.gif
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Sold one batch at 3.60 doh.gif

The rest...just keep sleep.gif
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post Feb 26 2015, 03:57 PM

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QUOTE(gark @ Feb 26 2015, 02:12 PM)
Buy at fair value...not at overvalue  whistling.gif
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spot on sifu rclxms.gif
zDarkForceSz
post Feb 26 2015, 04:10 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Feb 26 2015, 02:56 PM)
Sold one batch at 3.60 doh.gif

The rest...just keep sleep.gif
and enjoy the show rclxms.gif
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Then itu bukan average up leh...

I buying the undervalue than overvalue wor hmm.gif
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post Feb 26 2015, 04:34 PM

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QUOTE(gark @ Feb 26 2015, 02:12 PM)
Buy at fair value...not at overvalue  whistling.gif
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Don't agree....la

Buying at fair value means nothing......


COS ........in this game you only make money.....when it increases in value.....


.....and you and I know that a fair value stock carries the risk of becoming LESs valuable...



I rather die die buy stocks which has a chance of becoming MORE valuable....

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post Feb 26 2015, 04:47 PM

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QUOTE(billy_overheat @ Feb 26 2015, 01:29 PM)
Buying rights, not buying more wrongs.  whistling.gif
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............ where is my ........... kuaci?


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Billy now pro liao!

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post Feb 26 2015, 05:09 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Feb 26 2015, 03:57 PM)
spot on sifu  rclxms.gif
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You can find value in any company....

YES..... ANY company.... that includes rubbish companies.....


how can the INVestor mitigates the risk of not buying a company whose value keep on diminishing?





Learn from Biffett.... whistling.gif ( Uncle Biffett - new year new name. LOL! )

he once said ..... growth is an integral part of value.



Understand this ......... (more important than you pasting un necessary info all over lowyat forum tongue.gif )
gark
post Feb 26 2015, 05:29 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Feb 26 2015, 04:34 PM)
Don't agree....la

Buying at fair value means nothing......
COS ........in this game you only make money.....when it increases in value.....
.....and you and I know that a fair value stock carries the risk of becoming  LESs valuable...
I rather die die buy stocks which has a chance of becoming MORE valuable....

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Bah.. value not only means $$$ or EPS.. tongue.gif

of course you need to take account of the EPS growth rate.. wink.gif

Example below ...

A PE 12x company with declining growth is overvalue...

A PE 16x company with good growth rate is undervalue..

A PE 8x company with decent DY% and stagnant growth rate is fairly valued.. wink.gif

My take is on..

Fair value means PE = Dy% + Long term Growth rate %
Under value means PE< Dy% + long Term Growth rate %
Over value means PE> Dy% + long Term Growth rate %

This post has been edited by gark: Feb 26 2015, 05:35 PM
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post Feb 26 2015, 05:35 PM

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QUOTE(gark @ Feb 26 2015, 05:29 PM)
Bah.. value not only means $$$ or EPS.. tongue.gif

of course you need to take account of the EPS growth rate..  wink.gif

Example below ...

A PE 12x company with declining growth is overvalue...

A PE 16x company with good growth rate is undervalue..

A PE 8x company with decent DY% and stagnant growth rate is fairly valued.. wink.gif

My take is on..

Fair value means PE = Dy% + Long term Growth rate %
Under value means PE< Dy% + long Term Growth rate %
Over value means PE> Dy% + long Term Growth rate %
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Wah. PE=5..... rclxub.gif rclxub.gif
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post Feb 26 2015, 05:39 PM

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post Feb 26 2015, 05:51 PM

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QUOTE(gark @ Feb 26 2015, 05:29 PM)
Bah.. value not only means $$$ or EPS.. tongue.gif

of course you need to take account of the EPS growth rate..  wink.gif

Example below ...

A PE 12x company with declining growth is overvalue...

A PE 16x company with good growth rate is undervalue..

A PE 8x company with decent DY% and stagnant growth rate is fairly valued.. wink.gif

My take is on..

Fair value means PE = Dy% + Long term Growth rate %
Under value means PE< Dy% + long Term Growth rate %
Over value means PE> Dy% + long Term Growth rate %
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Die.....so many equations.....I shall never pass.....




If no pass...can still make money?

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post Feb 27 2015, 10:32 AM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Feb 26 2015, 05:51 PM)
Die.....so many equations.....I shall never pass.....
If no pass...can still make money?

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Can...

Overvalue stocks can become even more overvalue...

Undervalue stocks can become even more undervalue..

All depends on investor sentiment..

Investing is more 'art' than 'science'... wink.gif
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post Feb 27 2015, 10:54 AM

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QUOTE(gark @ Feb 27 2015, 10:32 AM)
Can...

Overvalue stocks can become even more overvalue...

Undervalue stocks can become even more undervalue..

All depends on investor sentiment..

Investing is more 'art' than 'science'...  wink.gif
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Lagi can not....my art is terrible.


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post Feb 27 2015, 11:52 AM

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QUOTE(hehe86 @ Feb 27 2015, 11:24 AM)
The day wenqing mention bout SHL, it went up till today. biggrin.gif ho liao
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Champion liao like this.

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post Feb 27 2015, 12:52 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Feb 27 2015, 11:52 AM)
Champion liao like this.

Sky earth no one can bea t liso!
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