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 Traders Kopitiam! V7

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gark
post Mar 11 2015, 03:39 PM

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QUOTE(Le Don @ Mar 11 2015, 03:34 PM)
You have bad experience with VT stocks?
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Not personally.. just many things in the past VT has done to screw minorities... and stock punters..

Latest is the Berjaya Toto's gaming trust..to be listed in SGX and then canceled incurring a cut in dividend. rolleyes.gif

Also VT is the main shark at his counters.. watch out for that. wink.gif

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post Mar 11 2015, 03:41 PM

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QUOTE(Carls_Nemesis @ Mar 11 2015, 03:39 PM)
rumors say tat berjaya times square make a lot of contractors bankrupt by dragging payment. his stock counters my senior burned arms, not fingers, advise me if wan play with him, follow and take profit while can, else take k of urself. lol
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This...

VT is the main shark at his own counters.. sweat.gif
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post Mar 11 2015, 03:43 PM

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QUOTE(Le Don @ Mar 11 2015, 03:42 PM)
Ok, thanks. I have to be careful then cause I got BJauto in my portfolio.  sweat.gif
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Ride the gain.. icon_rolleyes.gif

But keep an eye out for sudden u-turn..
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post Mar 11 2015, 05:48 PM

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QUOTE(Carls_Nemesis @ Mar 11 2015, 05:45 PM)
gst coming, buy legal toto kena charged, buy illegal not charged, means u earn more. u stil wan buy legal geh toto mou? laugh.gif
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Toto also got GSt...? hmm.gif

nevermind.. punters don't care about GST.. laugh.gif

It's an addiction... brows.gif

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post Mar 11 2015, 06:00 PM

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QUOTE(vNirvana @ Mar 11 2015, 05:58 PM)
Mine still in red red.. wondering should buy in the low price to average down..

but o&g .. wondering how long it gonna takes to recover ..
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Its gonna take a long long while... nod.gif

Make sure you have a comfortable seat.. and able to hold on to losses if you decide to play OnG stocks. If no patience or emotion to hold on.. then better not touch. sweat.gif

I think no recovery can be forseen in between 1-2 years time. laugh.gif

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post Mar 11 2015, 06:05 PM

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QUOTE(holybo @ Mar 11 2015, 06:03 PM)
Sepat Gas cancelled, Kasawari delayed.. my salary also gonna cut 20%  cry.gif
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Ouch.. yeah working in OnG now will be tough time.. sweat.gif

Marginal fields are going to be first to be cut... sweat.gif

Working in palm oil related industry also not so good now.. CPO price also down a lot.. at least no salary cut yet. laugh.gif


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post Mar 11 2015, 08:42 PM

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QUOTE(felixmask @ Mar 11 2015, 08:16 PM)
labor law dont allow any company cut the salary or retrench as they like.
Are you working on contract basic.
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Can.. for cut they call it voluntary reduction scheme (VRS).. for retrench call voluntary separation scheme (VSS).

Basically its either you take salary cut or you are out... tongue.gif

If you die die dont want to take cut or go out.. they will probably send you to africa warzone.. icon_idea.gif
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post Mar 12 2015, 10:16 AM

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QUOTE(shankar_dass93 @ Mar 12 2015, 04:28 AM)
I don't know why but I'm feeling pretty positive of the OnG industry lol.

Hands were too itchy  sweat.gif and had to get some OnG stocks.
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Prepare for the long ride.. rclxms.gif
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post Mar 12 2015, 10:22 AM

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QUOTE(felixmask @ Mar 12 2015, 09:38 AM)
VSS paid number of year working in the company .  tongue.gif
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Nowdays companies very creative one lar.. got labor lawyers support one.

For example, they tend to give 'big' salary in a few allowances, which they can pull later. Also they can be very creative in getting rid of you. Sending you to literary hostile places to work. or isolated in Jungle.

The company I work for does have any problem firing people.. sweat.gif If you are triggered for removal, the most you can last is 1-3 months.. whistling.gif

I have seen executive directors also kena removed, GM's, manager and even executives. Most without compensation. A few tried to fight in labor court but lost.

This is not small company.. >1000 people working in the group. laugh.gif

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post Mar 12 2015, 10:26 AM

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QUOTE(vNirvana @ Mar 12 2015, 10:25 AM)
long ride ??  blink.gif

yinson going up today but skpetro still no power  sad.gif
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Different scope of work..

I really think its a long ride, no quick profits here... laugh.gif
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post Mar 12 2015, 10:29 AM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Mar 12 2015, 10:27 AM)
For me company...also easy. Just send 'em to jungle project sites... whistling.gif
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Bila you mau masuk jungle.. audit.. icon_idea.gif
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post Mar 12 2015, 10:39 AM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Mar 12 2015, 10:33 AM)
No need! Even my external auditors never conduct asset physical audits on my company. We probably have many non-existent assets laugh.gif

Songlap by Perris Heelton boyfriend liao whistling.gif
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Apa audit standard is this...? doh.gif

Our internal & external auditor (One of the big 4) all masuk site/jungle do audit on stock and asset one, usually for 3-4 days per site. biggrin.gif

Very funny see all the young auditors suffer, get all their nice cloths dirty & sweat bucket loads for a bit. tongue.gif One time one external auditor (young chap ~25) panic after climb the 30m tall storage tank. We have to bring him milo, before he dare to climb back down. laugh.gif

For some reason, they never send female auditors one.. sweat.gif

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post Mar 12 2015, 11:55 AM

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Wow.. just checked my watchlist.. Pharma.. zoomed a lot for the past 1 month..

Chicken run jor.. tongue.gif
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post Mar 12 2015, 01:12 PM

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QUOTE(Xp3rT @ Mar 12 2015, 01:04 PM)
everyday up 10sen for the whole 1 month  sweat.gif
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Not so kua-cheong lar... tongue.gif
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post Mar 12 2015, 01:59 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Mar 12 2015, 01:25 PM)
No way...I scared of this... sweat.gif

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OMG.. I would wanna wash my face with dettol if that happened.. sweat.gif
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post Mar 12 2015, 03:29 PM

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QUOTE(Le Don @ Mar 12 2015, 03:28 PM)
Anyone taking a look at Inari? Feel like eating sushi
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Always looking.. laugh.gif

And it's older brother too. tongue.gif
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post Mar 12 2015, 04:19 PM

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QUOTE(woonsc @ Mar 12 2015, 04:07 PM)
laugh.gif macam i could! tongue.gif
busy studying.. dint even know telah digoreng tongue.gif
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No need study.. whistling.gif

play stock and get rich.. rclxms.gif
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post Mar 13 2015, 10:04 AM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Mar 12 2015, 07:51 PM)
If no quick profits why you want to be in so early? tongue.gif
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I am not interested in 'quick' profits..

I am in got the longer term.. flex.gif

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post Mar 13 2015, 10:07 AM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Mar 12 2015, 08:30 PM)
Huh?
This is a new type of opportunity cost. LOL!
huh?
no wrong price?

Can just buy any good stock at any price and just hold the stock?

So gark, I tell you stocks is so easy to make money.

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Huh? Me pulak.. doh.gif

Technically ... if you bought good fundamental stocks at the wrong price, you might NOT lose if you keep for a long long time, BUT your profit margin and compounded gain will be severely hampered.

If you enter at very very very wrong price, sometimes even the good fundamentals can't help you.. you might do worse than FD. tongue.gif

Now.. if you enter at ANY price at weak stocks, high chance that can say bye bye to your $$$ wink.gif
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post Mar 13 2015, 10:09 AM

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QUOTE(MoneyMaker prince @ Mar 13 2015, 08:25 AM)
How do we know if a company fundamental is not good anymore and we shouldn't hold it any longer? What are the ratio/paramenters that we should look at? ROE? Free cash flow?
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I would say PRIMARY we look at FUTURE profit growth OR stability (in case of divvy stocks).. wink.gif

No use looking at past or present situation, stock investing is all about anticipation of the FUTURE. laugh.gif

That what makes it hard to SCORE.. sweat.gif

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