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bullchips
post Mar 10 2015, 03:59 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Mar 10 2015, 10:37 AM)
Dilutive private placement is the worst...see Quill Capita now vmad.gif
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Wonder what Quill Capita up to now. They are paying 1.88c distribution now, which is not the norm. http://announcements.bursamalaysia.com/EDM...00?OpenDocument Maybe, try to attract investors by paying quarterly instead of half yearly now?
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post Mar 10 2015, 04:07 PM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Mar 10 2015, 04:03 PM)
It is norm for reit to do so before any newer acquisition/private placement taken place.

As newer investors/shareholders shouldn't "enjoy" the profit before the private placement taking place, so whatever earning generated before private placement proposal should be distributed to "old" shareholders.
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Ah... That's why you are the reit specialist master around! TQ

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post Aug 8 2015, 02:46 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Aug 8 2015, 09:19 AM)
gone case REIT
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Aug 8 2015, 09:47 AM)
You can't count like this.

There is one off disposal gain that contributed the higher than normal operation DPU.
Operational rental income has dropped from 3.7 mil last year Q, to now 2.6 mil.

If you stripe out the one off disposal gain amounted 4.2 mil, the DPU only around 1 cent only. (

Somemore another 1 property lease is expiring soon.
So future DPU may be in risk at lower side, until new tenant being secured on the vacant property.

That's the reason why I sell off my holding on Atrium at RM1.2x.
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From an investment perspective at current price of RM1.13. Upside potential RM1.30+ fully tenanted in best of market sentiment. Downside prospect ?

Total 4 properties.

1) Atrium Puchong vacant. DHL moved to own newly built mega facilities in SA.

2) Atrium SA2 (Ceva). 4 months lease expiring next month Sept 2015. REIT with such short lease means what? Customer leaving for other places soon ?

3) Atrium SA1 (DHL) lease expiring end 2016. Will DHL renew lease or move to own facilities in SA neaby like DHL puchong?

4) Atrium USJ the smallest is tenanted with 3 different customers, lease expiring between end 2015 - 2017.

Is leasing industrial size properties as easy/simple as renting a terrace house or apartment ?

Going to be an epic challenge in 2017 for Atrium if they are left with only Atrium USJ tenanted and 3 other non-performing properties to service interest on loans.

Means from hereon, downside prospect can worsen till 2017 when it,s trading at <RM0.30 ? cry.gif All the DPU you get cannot cover the hugh capital loss. cry.gif

Good thing Atrium don,t have institutional investors, else they would have been sold down long ago. If I still have Atrium shares, I would take the opportunity to sell next week to some blur retail investors who don,t bother to do any research beyond reading the Bursa announcements.

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post Aug 9 2015, 03:25 PM

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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Aug 9 2015, 07:46 AM)
Mind to share the basis of RM0.30?
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Aug 9 2015, 11:12 AM)
It won't trade below RM0.30 lah.

Even all property have difficulty to be leased out, worst to worst, liquidate all the properties and return the cash to shareholders.

The reit NAV stood at about Rm1.30, even fire-sale the property at 30% discount, you still have around Rm0.90 worth per share.
Properties itself still have their own worth.
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Er, in 2008/9 it traded about RM0.60 fully tenanted with just a potential risk on Atrium SA2. Nothing academic here, just illogical market sentiment which is part and parcel of the market. Inversely, how much would it have traded if all properties were vacant except one?

2017 is also about whence the next major stock market cyclical correction can occur - about every decade (give or take a couple of years).

It takes time to liquidate all the properties - meanwhile your $$ is locked with no income when opportunities abound elsewhere( stable DPU should be the only consideration for REIT ).

That's why the ? in my sentence.

P.S. would you buy at RM0.90 without DPU ? tongue.gif

This post has been edited by bullchips: Aug 9 2015, 03:40 PM
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post Aug 10 2015, 11:02 AM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Aug 9 2015, 05:34 PM)
When it was plunging to RM0.60, it was not fully tenanted, one of major tenant moved out that resulted DPU plunged severely that's why its share price dropped so much at that time.
I had it that time, DPU plunged to around 0.8 cents, instead normal around 2 cents.

I won't buy at RM0.90 with no DPU, but I would buy if below RM0.40~0.50.  tongue.gif
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Quite close to my agak-agak RM0.30. tongue.gif
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post Aug 10 2015, 11:07 AM

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QUOTE(Showtime747 @ Aug 9 2015, 10:03 PM)
With NTA at 1.40, way before it touches 0.50, it will be privatised  tongue.gif

Let's hope for RM1.00 is more realistic  thumbup.gif
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Some realistic facts trivia.

2008/2009 trading about RM0.60 without one tenant.
2015 trading about RM1.13 without one tenant.

About RM0.50 difference for a similar situation that cannot be explained based purely on the academics. However, inject a good dose of "fuzzy logic" & we start to see the picture . . .

Cherroy have his own logic with his RM0.40/0.50. I am more kiasu at RM0.30, you have your own logic . . .

Wishing the best to all however they want to spend their money.


 

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