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post Mar 9 2015, 05:08 PM

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QUOTE(Eng_Tat @ Mar 9 2015, 05:02 PM)
Hapeng. Yes I understand that it is the numbers of share I will get. Gark. For a start rm1 share just to get more units where I can split for 2 or 3 nos of company to diversify a little if like wise company div nearly identical.
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post Mar 9 2015, 05:53 PM

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QUOTE(gark @ Mar 9 2015, 05:47 PM)
Then you teach lor.. baby steps mah..  tongue.gif
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Whole chapter of finance paper u expect me to lecture here??? shakehead.gif
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post Mar 9 2015, 06:09 PM

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Study here lor:

https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3353991
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post Mar 10 2015, 09:28 AM

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And yield isn't everything

U gotta look at revenue and earnings growth too
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post Mar 10 2015, 10:22 AM

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QUOTE(river.sand @ Mar 10 2015, 10:21 AM)
net property income growth
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Thanks for the correction. notworthy.gif

Earnings include property revaluation gains, which I think not so relevant for yield seekers.

Yield can only be paid out from realised gains, of which bulk contributed from net property income. nod.gif
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post Mar 10 2015, 10:37 AM

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QUOTE(gark @ Mar 10 2015, 10:31 AM)
For REIT, re-valuation gains is meaning less as you can see but cannot touch..  rolleyes.gif

DY Yield, DY Growth, DY Stability is the 3 key factors to choose a REIT

Other important metrics include net debt %, loan structure & yield accreditive injections

Scariest word in REIT  is.. rights issue.  laugh.gif
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Dilutive private placement is the worst...see Quill Capita now vmad.gif
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post Mar 10 2015, 07:44 PM

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QUOTE(Eng_Tat @ Mar 10 2015, 07:12 PM)
sorry, i mean what is the viable or feasible quantity to purchase due to fees incurs? can be advise in unit or rm figure. tq
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Min RM1.5k for me. My minimum brokerage is RM10
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post Mar 12 2015, 09:26 AM

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QUOTE(Hapeng @ Mar 12 2015, 07:45 AM)
yes u cover back.. but you could've made lets say 5% more right.
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COULD have
SHOULD have

Those are dirty words in investing, trading and gambling tongue.gif
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post Mar 12 2015, 09:55 AM

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QUOTE(zDarkForceSz @ Mar 12 2015, 09:43 AM)
and MUST have.
if cannot must kasi potong
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True there's management fee for funds, but it's only 1.0% to 1.8% p.a.
And sales charges...nowadays online platforms only charge 0 to 2% max compared to 5.5% to 6% by banks.

For people with small capital and not much time and knowledge, funds are a good way to start.

I also started with funds, RM1K initial, every month top up RM100 without fail, when got annual bonus dump in lump sum. Yeah returns were slower compared to stocks (hey, but 6-10% p.a. ain't THAT bad), but it gave me peace of mind and a way to slowly accumulate my capital for stocks faster than FD returns (3%+).

Had I jumped straight into stocks with RM1K...how many stocks can I buy to diversify?

People with big capital outright will never understand people who (had to) start small.
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post Mar 12 2015, 10:13 AM

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QUOTE(zDarkForceSz @ Mar 12 2015, 10:07 AM)
The problem is, people's ego is super great + people spreading wrong facts outside.
Makes people think they can manage better than some fund manager.
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I always said...

Lottery winners hold grand parties to celebrate, buy cars buy properties, everyone knows
But lottery investors losers will just quietly move on with their lives sleep.gif
And those winners usually don't keep track of their past losses whistling.gif

Fund winners quietly go on with their investing journey rolleyes.gif
But (lazy/herd mentality/high market-chasing) fund losers go on ranting and cursing about their losses and made themselves heard mad.gif vmad.gif

Things with high probability of winning, winning got no news value, losing got news value
Things with low probability of winning, winning got news value, losing got no news value

Use your brain la doh.gif

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post Mar 12 2015, 10:35 AM

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QUOTE(holybo @ Mar 12 2015, 10:33 AM)
chill bro..  icon_question.gif
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Just let me rant lar...tension at work. Rant here better than to storm into my CEO room and flip table laugh.gif

But what I just stated is the reality...which many don't (want to) realise wink.gif

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post Mar 12 2015, 10:44 AM

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QUOTE(gark @ Mar 12 2015, 10:42 AM)
He PMS today..  laugh.gif
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Post Mast*rbation Syndrome? laugh.gif
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post Mar 12 2015, 03:07 PM

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Quill acquisition of Platinum Sentral approved:
http://www.theedgemarkets.com/my/article/q...ssets-rm32b-ceo

Knew that it would be bulldozed thru anyway grumble.gif
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QUOTE(ryan18 @ Mar 12 2015, 10:06 PM)
i started with cash management fund,then REIT all the way till now(in the middle added some other stocks)

i also started small($500 3 stocks,the brokerage was eating away the profits 1st few months)
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What REITs u still holding now? smile.gif
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post Mar 13 2015, 01:34 PM

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QUOTE(ryan18 @ Mar 13 2015, 01:30 PM)
Sunway reit,klcc,igb reit,cmmt,pavilion reit,ytl hospitality reit,starhill global reit
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Wow...u are Pahlawan Dividen Malaysia notworthy.gif
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post Mar 13 2015, 01:43 PM

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QUOTE(gark @ Mar 13 2015, 01:40 PM)
Don't understand.. by buying... so many REITs it is not diversification .. it's diWORSEsification leh...

Just keep 1-2 good REITs will do leh...  more or less same exposure as holding 8 REITs.. yawn.gif
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laugh.gif doh.gif

oi, nanti Dewan Bahasa dan Pustaka sue u tongue.gif
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QUOTE(gark @ Mar 13 2015, 01:44 PM)
Hahaha..

Actually hor.. why need to buy so many reits... they are all correlated more or less the same.  tongue.gif

If Naik .. all naik, if jatuh.. all jatuh..  nod.gif
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IMHO, buy 1 that u think is the best from different sectors will do

Hence my pick of
ALAQAR - healthcare
IGBREIT - 100% retail
KLCC - retail + offices
UOAREIT - offices

Eh, industrial aku dah takda after dump Axis hmm.gif

Nvm, I got exposure to industrial (logistics) thru Century tongue.gif
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QUOTE(gark @ Mar 13 2015, 01:51 PM)
1 Got 2 REIT now.. thinking of consolidate into 1 REIT...  laugh.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif

I am going to consolidate into the MORE defensive REIT... one that no need to worry about tenant vacancy.. no matter how bad the economy is... wink.gif
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Mar 13 2015, 03:03 PM)
Yes, when drop, mostly drop together.
But poor one, other up, she stagnant...

See Axreit, Qcap up how much since from IPO
compared to YTLreit and other... whistling.gif

Get the good one will do, poor one, forget it...  tongue.gif
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Itu belum jual? tongue.gif
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post Mar 13 2015, 05:38 PM

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KLCC 100 shares? That's only RM700 doh.gif

At least buy in value of around RM1.5K-2K lar...anything below RM1.5K not worth it lar doh.gif

No need buy every month...u can buy every 3 months, or 6 months...put in savings dulu...
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