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 Ultimate Discussion of ASNB (47457-V), Wholly owned subsidary of PNB (38218-X)

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post Aug 12 2015, 01:06 PM

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Guys, please do keep the list updated, I currently quite busy till next week. Next week I shall update it. Sorry for the delay.

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post Aug 13 2015, 07:21 AM

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QUOTE(Vincent9696 @ Aug 12 2015, 11:03 PM)
Time is always in very limited but $$ so far still ok ...haha
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Go for ASM. Don't try asw and as1m first. I believe ASM have a lot for now. As long as the issues haven't resolve. Once everything is fine, bursa shoot up, then the unit will be less.
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post Aug 13 2015, 07:23 AM

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QUOTE(Hansel @ Aug 13 2015, 12:27 AM)
Wonder how much is the dividend per unit for the ASW2020 at end-August...
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post Aug 13 2015, 01:38 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Aug 13 2015, 01:19 PM)
Have your pick. If you don't mind lsoing money, open ASG.  Now good time to buy ASG (prices are down, so you can get more units at a cheaper price). Then when economy recover sell ASG. Tax 5% + 6% of that 5%. Need to hold for about 2-3 years to profit. With bad economy, it will give you returns of 2-3%. But when economy become good, it will give you >10%. For me I am going to hold my ASG until economy recovers to gain back my principle and sell it and transfer into ASX (fixed price)

If you don't like to lose money and want stable returns. Open ASX (fixed price). Annual returns of 6.6% for now despite bad times or good times. Can't say about the future. But must depend on luck.
1) Got units, Bank officers don't want to help you open, you cannot open.
2) No units. Bank officer try to help you open. You cannot open also.

To open must be nice to them and beg them. But nowadays can open and top up easily. You won't go back empty handed. You know why la. tongue.gif.

ASM - malay sell, Chinese. Indian can buy.
ASW2020, AS1M - malay sell, Chinese Indian cannot buy. Only can buy from Chinese/Indian/others quota. Eg, are a chinese, can only when chinese sell.
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Depend also. I already move 50% of the ASG to ASM.
Because ASM give better. No need to scare like now. The price drop till I no eye see. Luckily rate at 2.8% or else. I really don know what to do lol. Most likely will increase slowly once market recover.
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post Aug 13 2015, 01:45 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Aug 13 2015, 01:40 PM)
Cannot move now. Or else rugi teruk. Haven't even 1 year yet.
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Yea... U put alot?

Damn. Thank god receiving interest for 2 years already. And manage to sell during KLCI around 1750.


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post Aug 13 2015, 03:55 PM

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QUOTE(Hansel @ Aug 13 2015, 02:20 PM)
Hi Ramjade.... Yes, I hold quite some PNB Units too. I do have the records for ASW2020 that date back till 2008. Highest was 7.00% in 2008. Lowest was 6.30% in 2009. Last year was 6.60%. The yr before was 6.70%.

Hmm, tempted to buy more ASM and ASW2020,... but really nervous about it. IF the RM turns into 'banana notes',....thn we are stuck. Or if PNB dies.
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You can refer the few hundred post before. Most of us here chip in once we have the chance..


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Wow. Just realise lol
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post Aug 13 2015, 06:20 PM

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Dude, save save save.

But.

DO NOT EVER SACRIFICE HEALTH.

Listen to me.
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post Aug 13 2015, 07:58 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Aug 13 2015, 06:22 PM)
Talking to me or Hansel?
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To all. Health is important.
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post Aug 13 2015, 07:59 PM

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QUOTE(Vincent9696 @ Aug 13 2015, 07:56 PM)
Bro, the so call dividen are declare once a year, correct me if I made mistake
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Its pro rate.

Yea. Now is the best chance...
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post Aug 14 2015, 06:59 AM

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Hmm Ramjade......
Seems like.... Really thank god person like you do exist in Malaysia!!! But if everyone like your thinking, our economy will halt and entertainment will down too. Hahaahahaah. I think most sifus here only able to rely on money market, bond, blue-chip, telco and REIT. Haha.

But yeah, keep it up the good work.

Me too. Having mission. Planning to buy semidee in Sngor and my dream car in future. Having ability to buy my favourite gadget. Enjoying life after work. Now just save save and save.

Oh yea and btw, based on your situation, I can make a wild guess that, you parents give you the control of family finance, and they do listen to your advise, and you are being the youngest sibling. Correct?

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post Aug 14 2015, 11:49 AM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Aug 14 2015, 08:38 AM)
SemiD? Nah. Not for me. Most is a double story terrace house will some small land inside to plant my own veges.

Kind of true. But you didn't guess all correctly. tongue.gif  Handle family finance no. Handle my own finance yes. Listen to my advise not really. They only listen to my advise on FD musical chairs (use to put board rates) and ASX. Asking them to use credit card, until today no. They still prefer cash. Asked to open a CDS account kena reject strongly. sad.gif

By the way, how you know?
Why should I go watch crappy movies? I usually go for marvel movies and movies which friend said are good. Tgv ticket are RM14. The last I checked (few months back). Besides I usually go and watch when the movie is not so popular anymore. Less people,  less kids screaming, less people with phone on, less people walking up and down.

Second, watching movies mean you are supporting MAFIAA of  America. They are not somebody you want to support. There's always free WiFi at Starbucks. whistling.gif

Thanks for the recommended book.  Will look into it.
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Just a wild guess. brows.gif

And I think you shouldn't use the public WiFi that often. Its really vulnerable to data stealing. Esp you doing banking thing.

And I love to watch movie. I mean, a lot! But often due to time, really often miss the nice one.... already 8 month dint step into cinema. TGV have early bird and student promo. 9MYR for all.
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post Aug 14 2015, 03:25 PM

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QUOTE(Hansel @ Aug 14 2015, 03:22 PM)
YOu are smart, bro,... I started late,.. I too lived frugally when I was young,.. kind of like you, except for the GF part.... I read your posts, no GF yet for you. Bro,.. balancing a bit is okay. YOu would want to get a life partner too in future, right ?
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Lol.

Good career + mature thinking at age 25 24 23. Hot chick automatic joined you. Lolol
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post Aug 14 2015, 06:22 PM

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QUOTE(alexanderclz @ Aug 14 2015, 06:13 PM)
yep. the first time after i opened my asm account, that dude tell me got 500k units available if i have money. lol.

the second time i went to open asw and as1m, they told me no units available. then asked me what account i have, which is asm which the dude tell me can topup if i want
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OMG OMG OMG


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post Aug 16 2015, 07:18 AM

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Name name lol
Is it the 101?
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post Aug 16 2015, 07:52 AM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Aug 16 2015, 07:42 AM)
But what he said also make sense. If someone is desperate and got a lump of cash sitting around, I take you also don't know.

I am your boss, you talk, I fired you and you go to jail. That scenario also can happen.
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Yea. But not that bad the current situation.

Now the market could crashed that bad is due to LACK OF CPNFIDENCE. Not some major crisis.....

Nation is stable, but our dear is causing the stir....

If say till that bad.

All the blue chip company must be in danger. Including tnb, mbb, th, khazanah, and epf
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post Aug 17 2015, 04:26 PM

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He come la. We all can tok k sing s.
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post Aug 17 2015, 05:20 PM

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Welcome to the dummies club!!!
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post Aug 17 2015, 09:35 PM

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QUOTE(dreamer101 @ Aug 17 2015, 09:16 PM)
wil-i-am,

This is Malaysia.  Why do you THINK that it will make a difference?? It is a GLIC.

<<In addition, Gomen can oso take $ from Banks (GLC) too namely Affin, AmBank, Bimb, Cimb, Maybank, Mbsb n Rhb>>

That is why I do not invest in those companies.  By the way, ASx invest in those companies.
nexona88,

<<the best part is he ignore EPF which could also be used to cover the "hole" blink.gif>>

Bingo!! I think you are the person that forget this part.

20+% of your gross income is in EPF under THE GOVERNMENT's control.  Basic common sense will tell you that do not put all your eggs into ONE basket.  Aka, do not put all your money under THE GOVERNMENT's control.  But, DUMMIES like you choose to voluntary put your money into ASx aka a GLIC under THE GOVERNMENT's control.  A even more prudent person will invest outside of Malaysia since most of his savings aka EPF is in Malaysia.

Those are common sense aka basic personal finance. 

Dreamer
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Then in Malaysia which isn't under Malaysia control unsure.gif

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post Aug 18 2015, 05:23 AM

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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Aug 17 2015, 10:30 PM)
dreamer101,
U have yet to answer my Question
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IF NORMAL INCOME OF 5K PER MONTH, NEED TO RAISE FAMILY, HOW TO HAVE FOREIGN CURRENCY! YOU THINK PEOPLE NO MNEED EAT AR. YOU THINK NOW EVERYWHERE TRADING USING FOREIGN CURRENCY AR? STIL WE USING MYR IN MALLS AND PASAR.

Edit : wrong quote. This suppose for dreamer.

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post Aug 18 2015, 05:56 AM

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FYI, I always against epf.

And why expect higher from me..

Don't think so highly of yourself.

Lol

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