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 Ultimate Discussion of ASNB (47457-V), Wholly owned subsidary of PNB (38218-X)

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post Aug 7 2015, 02:18 PM

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QUOTE(okuribito @ Aug 7 2015, 01:27 PM)
hahaha just found the master prospectuses for 2013/14 & 2015/16

some scary shit discovery for me lah ... i went down to para 6.6 ASG performance charts & lo & behold i believe they re-calibrated the benchmarks to make the charts look beautiful. 2013 was glaring for pendidikan  blink.gif

didn't look indepth ... maybe I mistaken???

update: hahaha the current years they invest more into equities & less in MM... hence the change imho
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I hold ASG for quite some times. Around 3 years if not mistaken.

AFAIK, the Kesihatan fund invested heavily in equities, 80++%. Others consider ok. like around 60%. That's why...

And the variable funds are can I say fully? depend on the performance of KLCI. Once the KLCI drop, the NAV dropped too...


I noticed the phase where they hold the highest point, which is in 12 13 14. Price skyrocketed each day. Until 1.22 for kesihatan, now standing at 1.06. 15% dropped. I believe if all the issues in MY solved, it will bounced back. So for those who wish to invest but don't want headache for monitoring price like stock or forex, ASG can be considered.

But, looking the trend, those day we consider investing in ASG is due to there is no more units left in fixed priced fund. Perhaps, yes, investing in ASG can be giving high profit if the condition given are same as 12 or 13. I calculated, yes, around 16%... But now only 2.8%... Really need to say thank you.
But now, since everyone scarred of dealing with the so called gov link but actually no, its governed by trustee, there is plenty of fixed price fund unit left. As you can see few hundred posts before....

So, if you have, erm, guts, welcome to the club!!!

Fell free to ask any question here. Critics but not bashing, positive or negative, we'll accept. We have lots of sifus here (some of the are silent reader), newbies like me too smile.gif
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post Aug 7 2015, 06:45 PM

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Hmmm strange....

Sure ASM isn't release new unit?

Because ASW is fully subscribe....
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post Aug 7 2015, 09:31 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Aug 7 2015, 09:11 PM)
can u see what I see  brows.gif
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Bumi only.
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post Aug 7 2015, 10:22 PM

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That's early.
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post Aug 8 2015, 06:35 AM

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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Aug 8 2015, 12:18 AM)
When Ppl sell, everyone can try to buy
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yea, but why not ASW? I sense this isn't panic selling. If panic selling, it will happen to all.
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post Aug 8 2015, 06:35 AM

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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Aug 8 2015, 12:18 AM)
When Ppl sell, everyone can try to buy
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yea, but why not ASW? I sense this isn't panic selling. If panic selling, it will happen to all.
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post Aug 8 2015, 07:45 AM

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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Aug 8 2015, 07:37 AM)
ASW have bumi n non bumi quota @ 51:49 whereas ASM dun have quota
When Ppl sell ASM, any Ppl can buy (subject to timing n luck)
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So meaning after all, all this while is the bumi selling off their units? Because this only explain why ASW, for the non-bumi subscription is still full...


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post Aug 8 2015, 08:57 AM

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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Aug 8 2015, 08:20 AM)
Most likely
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brows.gif Now we know who don't have confidence.
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post Aug 8 2015, 04:26 PM

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QUOTE(MGM @ Aug 8 2015, 04:22 PM)
Most likely Raya spending, n overspending.
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Most likely. But most of us here had been monitoring it for consecutive 3 years..... so.... thing doesn't happen for nothing.....
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post Aug 8 2015, 04:33 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Aug 8 2015, 04:29 PM)
What I know is bumi who invest in ASW2020 & ASM are those already max their ASB..
so if they needed $$, these 2 funds are their 1st option  sweat.gif
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Yup that's another factor after the launching of ASB2.

Now I think think, should I increase the ASM limit.... Hmmm.
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post Aug 8 2015, 05:03 PM

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See KLCI threshold 1600 breached or not.
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post Aug 8 2015, 05:22 PM

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Maybe increased risk appetite to invest in ASG......
Have faith will bounced in 2 years...
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post Aug 8 2015, 06:06 PM

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Yea. The market NAV already down more than 15%....
But ASM far better I guess.
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post Aug 10 2015, 02:11 PM

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QUOTE(guy3288 @ Aug 10 2015, 12:59 PM)
where there is a will there is a way,
go CIMB now, i just came back.
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ER... Just want to know.
Why u prefer ASW2020 than ASM??
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post Aug 11 2015, 04:03 PM

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Come come guys share basket ratio for me now.

ASNB 85%
FD 15%

How about u guys??
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post Aug 11 2015, 04:10 PM

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QUOTE(prince_mk @ Aug 11 2015, 04:04 PM)
FD 0%
UT 40%
ASNB 60%
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Hmm which UT?
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post Aug 11 2015, 04:59 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Aug 11 2015, 04:40 PM)
@Ancient-XinG- could you please post on front page places which allow us to try and open ASX?
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Okie.

May I have the lists/
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post Aug 11 2015, 05:37 PM

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Re confirm, klamg town have mbb?
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post Aug 11 2015, 05:42 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Aug 11 2015, 05:40 PM)
Got. Don't get yourself confuse with Maybank at bukit tinggi. Maybank klang town near ambank, standard chartered.
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Lol is it.

Is that few building beside the bridge near Tyre shop?


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post Aug 12 2015, 11:48 AM

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WA. So free

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