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 Ultimate Discussion of ASNB (47457-V), Wholly owned subsidary of PNB (38218-X)

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hyelbaine
post Mar 31 2015, 02:08 PM

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QUOTE(cheahcw2003 @ Mar 31 2015, 01:02 PM)
i guess more on struggling to match ASB return of 7% + Bonus.
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I'm betting on 6.85 cent income distribution + 1 cent bonus tongue.gif
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post Mar 31 2015, 04:38 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Mar 31 2015, 03:59 PM)
expect more pipu investing in ASB2 esp those already max their ASB
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True that. I know a lof of people who have been taking a "wait and see" approach with ASB2. I guess they'll just dump everything into ASB2 now and take a fresh 200k loan for ASB and just like that, you're almost a half-a-millionaire already tongue.gif heheheh
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post Mar 31 2015, 05:11 PM

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QUOTE(Ancient-XinG- @ Mar 31 2015, 04:50 PM)
Wow. 7.75. Wow. They really good in investment huh. Last year even till now our econ still not that good still can give that high. Really impressive.
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Would have to wait for the annual report to be published to compare its portfolio with the rest. Mind you, ASB2 is the first fund under ASNB that is allowed to invest overseas so looking at how EPF did with its overseas investment returns, it's not entirely impossible.
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post Mar 31 2015, 10:50 PM

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QUOTE(Ancient-XinG- @ Mar 31 2015, 05:49 PM)
This time maybe they really 7.75% not like others 10+%, the remaining bring foward.
Maybe la.
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Heard from some journo friends that it wasn't part of the official press statement read by the chairman but the CEO did say that actual capability is around 10.22 cents per unit during the Q&A session. Not sure if it'll get published, so we'll have to wait and see.

It's not in ASNB's MO to not carry forward earnings for a rainy day rclxub.gif
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post Apr 1 2015, 02:14 PM

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QUOTE(plumberly @ Apr 1 2015, 01:43 PM)
Maybe my poor reading skill is to blame.

I read the above that:

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we will not be able to do ASM transaction on 5 April 2015 (and other ASX as well).

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No ASN transactions from 1-5 April.

Right?

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post Apr 1 2015, 02:44 PM

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QUOTE(plumberly @ Apr 1 2015, 02:24 PM)
Then the ASNB staff should really go for better training in doing her job.

I did ask whether this system down thing was to reduce the queue. She said no.
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Too focused on GST maybe drool.gif
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post Apr 2 2015, 04:35 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Apr 2 2015, 04:09 PM)
Bad news guys..
1MDB energy unit focuses on company’s IPO again.
there's goes your ASx money  laugh.gif

http://www.themalaymailonline.com/money/ar...d-potential-inv
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Let the hunting begin than tongue.gif
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post Apr 7 2015, 02:13 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Apr 7 2015, 01:23 PM)
anyone going?
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Wanna go but all the way in Sibu, a bit far from KL tongue.gif
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post Apr 9 2015, 03:10 PM

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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Apr 9 2015, 01:19 PM)
ASNB Fixed price products is for those investors who seek slow n steady returns ranging from 6% to 8% pa
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Every income distribution, the statement, "competitive and consistent returns" will be used. Can't blame them as for fixed priced, it's really almost minimal risk with pretty good returns brows.gif
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post Apr 10 2015, 04:29 PM

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QUOTE(sms2u @ Apr 10 2015, 03:42 PM)
15% dividend in a year? Too good to be real.
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If it is than it normally is brows.gif
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post Apr 13 2015, 02:24 PM

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QUOTE(guy3288 @ Apr 13 2015, 01:56 PM)
ASM and AS1M on sales again,  should be able to open new account if you guys go try. After i finished up my cash in hand still got some more..
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For as long as the whole 1MDB hu-ha is ongoing, the sale will go on. Those who cashed out on rumors will later regret for repeating the same mistakes investors made in the past doh.gif
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post Apr 16 2015, 08:33 AM

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QUOTE(MGM @ Apr 16 2015, 05:35 AM)
Anyone here has signed up for ASNB's Pengisytiharan Amanah?

Currently ASNB has reduced the signup fee to rm100 from rm180 (promo until 30-april).

If one has a total ASNB's investment of rm500k, claiming fee adds up to rm3875, which is not cheap. Without this would claiming be difficult and more costly?
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Given the fact that just to open a file with a lawyer (without doing anything else) is already going to cost you anything between RM2k to RM3k (depending on the law firm) than I'd still say it's much cheaper.

ASNB's processing time of 21 days is fast too, don't think you can get your estate distributed upon death even with a will that fast.
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post Apr 16 2015, 08:55 AM

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QUOTE(MGM @ Apr 16 2015, 08:51 AM)
But u still need to have a will to cover other assets. Why can't ASNB accepts nominees like EPF?
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Nominees are only applicable for non-Muslims as whomever that is nominated is the rightful owner of the said estate. For Muslims, nominee is nothing more than just an appointed administrator to divide the estate according to Islamic principles.

For ASNB to manage your estate in a similar way to how ARB does would mean that ASNB would than have to go into the trustee business. I don't believe that is the core focus of their business.
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post Apr 20 2015, 09:27 AM

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Malaysians are just too gullible...

ASNB post on GST
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post Apr 20 2015, 04:29 PM

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QUOTE(plumberly @ Apr 20 2015, 02:34 PM)
Just speaking my mind here.

Is the doubling a good sign or a warning sign (getting too big)?

If my memory is OK, I think the total worth of the KLSE listed companies is about RM4 trillion. So RM200 billion is about 5% of all KLSE listed companies. PNB does not put all its money in KLSE. So, not a giant monopoly player there.

The RM200 billion :
* can build 200/4 = 50 KLCC (based on the old RM2 billion per tower)
* nearly pay off M'sia 2015 budget of RM 274 billion
* pay off !MXX debt and still have RM160 billion
* make 200 billionaires in my family

Good or warning sign? Cannot decide.  hmm.gif
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It's the entire reason why SC has not allowed for ASNB to launch anymore new fixed priced products for a long time, thus disappointing many Malaysian in the process. Then again as with always the case of Malaysia, our dear Najib just bull-dozed all regulators and its regulations and launched ASB2.

With regards to what PNB can do with 200 billion? The things suggested are not so easy to be implemented. Unlike TH, LTAT, KWAP and what not, ASNB is just like any other unit trust company. All securities are in the name of the trustee, they're under the purview of SC/BNM and other regulators, they have to disclose their investment portfolio in their numerous reports and many more.

The same transparency can't be said for TH, LTAT and KWAP despite these institutions managing billions too.
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post Apr 21 2015, 08:39 AM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Apr 20 2015, 06:32 PM)
Some pipu must be spreading wrong info until ASNB needed to give Notice like tis
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Malaysians just love to fall for rumors. Funny how despite today's connected world that we live in, many still find it hard to just send a Tweet or FB msg or email to ASNB just to clarify on something but instead just getting into panic mode and spread lies.

If I were ASNB, I'd sue those people who come up with such insane and stupid lies doh.gif
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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Apr 21 2015, 03:05 PM)
PNB has paid out RM130.55bil in dividends, bonuses
http://www.thestar.com.my/Business/Busines...uses/?style=biz
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That's a lot of wealth injected into the economy. I'm not sure if many countries have GDP as large as that figure. Makes you wonder, if everyone were prudent and responsible with their proceeds, how much would the economy and the nation actually grow hmm.gif
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post Apr 24 2015, 03:11 PM

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QUOTE(HomesteadDrive @ Apr 24 2015, 01:28 PM)
ASX is overvalued now. The big banks are propping it up like crazy.
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What do you mean propping up? ASX funds are only open to individual Malaysians and not companies like bank. How can you prop-up a ASX fund if you cannot buy into it?

This if of course propping-up that you mean here is the same as a shareholder propping up an equity counter on the stock market by buying shares of the said security
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post Apr 24 2015, 03:32 PM

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QUOTE(plumberly @ Apr 24 2015, 03:15 PM)
Gee, good to know that I am not alone on this one! Ha.
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It's 2015 and still got people who "fart" and leave comments with no head or tail and just leave like that. Increasing post count maybe?
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post Apr 28 2015, 09:22 AM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Apr 26 2015, 12:30 PM)
MSAM 2015 breaks record with 200,000 visitors rclxms.gif
http://www.theborneopost.com/2015/04/26/ms...00000-visitors/
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I believe that it's because ASNB can never pull the same crowd if MSAM was done in KL is the reason why it will always be held outside of KL. I read in the newspaper today that this year's MSAM drew more than 300k visitors and believe me, Sibu on its own isn't that large in terms of population.

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