My CPU are really hot when gaming. Sometimes it reach 90+ celcius even I'm using cooling pad (CM U3 Plus) and it pretty scares me. Currently using AAV Nitro. Below are the pics of my laptop temp while playing BF3.



Settings for BF3

your spec and try lowering your in game setting, most probabaly you are pusing you cpu limit and if not mistaken i think BF3 is cpu oriented then GPU, correct me if i am wrong.

Here's the spec:

CPU = Intel Core i7 4710HQ
GPU = GTX 860m 2GB
RAM = 12GB
HDD = 1TB+8GB SSHD
OS = Windows 8.1 Single Language 64-bit

Btw what is the normal temperature for laptop while gaming?

mine reach around 70 to 72. I am using ic diamond thermal paste

do you hear fan sound kicking while playing games?

Nope. Not at all.

Should I apply for it too?

before you do make sure the your high cpu temp is not cause by some other reason(like fan spoilt or etc) then it will be render useless to apply it, as for weather you should apply or not i am not sure, when i bought my laptop it come standard for my gpu and cpu, but you can ask/research in lowyat.net or google it for more information.

This post has been edited by Nareen: Jan 31 2015, 02:46 AM

i also have this issue, but the cpu temps normally range from 70 to 90, acer v nitro user

Hi Both, please take note https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=71739114

- HEATSINK FANS TOOK ABIT LONG TO KICK IN

Sorry to say this. 90 degree Celsius temperature when gaming is not normal. If anyone disagree with my opinion here, please prove me that I'm wrong. I have experienced high temperatures when gaming as well. Back in the days, I was using Acer Aspire 5750g with Nvidia GT540M 2 GB, CPU and GPU temperature reaches 90 degree Celsius, not long after that, my laptop gpu started to perform badly on a very basic online game, Heroes of Newerth, average frame rate drops to 10 or 20 fps, while temperature is 90 degree. Then I changed my laptop to Y400 Lenovo, with Nvidia GT650M, after playing for about a year, same thing occurs again and my recorded temperature is also 90 degree Celsius and above, things start to slow down and games fps are Greatly affected. You might need to check on that, don't repeat my mistakes, high temperatures on CPU and GPU reduce the lifespan of your laptop, you can either lower your in game settings, play in air conditioned room, get back to where you bought the Acer V Nitro and asked about the problem.

Erm.. for your Y400 case, do you reapply the thermal paste and perform dust cleaning ? Cause normally most very hardcore gamer did is reapply thermal paste and perform dust cleaning every 6 months. If in 1 year you didn't do those, surely your laptop will perform badly.

When I found out about the high temperatures, it was already too late, I had never done all that. So, I gave up on gaming. My friend owning the same Lenovo Y400 did reapply the thermal paste, but also same like my case, too late. He got frequent BSOD when playing Dota 2 halfway..

TS case more special, I don't think the V Nitro is one year old...

Yea.. TS case is really not usual.
So remember next time should perform maintenance on your laptop. haha
I think it's your fan problem, after reapplying thermal paste, clean dust and oiling fan, it should be okay. Most probably is your fan failing or spinning very slow..

Hi guys, now I noticed the reason why it was showing high temperatures. When gaming usually I alt+tab to desktop and use cpuid to view temperatures. I think switching while gaming causes cpu spike momentarily . So yesterday I installed msi afterburner and displayed all temperature onscreen. The temperature are now much more lower ranging from 60 to max 80 degrees, averaging around 69 degrees

I didn't know switching to desktop while gaming makes the cpu work so hard, I taught these machines are powerful enough to handle it

Ya that's true. I only heard my heatsink fan kicked not more than 5 times a week, strange eh? Wish I can control the fan...

What is your idle temperature for both GPU and CPU btw?

Well I did lower down the settings but it seems not really helpful though, CPU still exceed 90 celcius sometimes.

Excuse me.
do you know how much is for y400 case [whole bottom] replacement?
sent in my y400 for inspection almost 1 week ago but they still do not give a price quote...

This post has been edited by ErgoProxi: Feb 1 2015, 03:29 PM

my idle temps are around 50 to 60 for cpu, gpu around 50 degrees

Great, thought I'm the only one whose GPU is in 48-50.

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This post has been edited by lopiop: Feb 1 2015, 04:03 PM

I did find out why it was showing high temperatures. When gaming usually I alt+tab to desktop and use cpuid to view temperatures. I think switching while gaming causes cpu spike momentarily . So yesterday I installed msi afterburner and displayed all temperature onscreen. The temperature are now much more lower ranging from 60 to max 80 degrees, averaging around 69 degrees

Bro, did you use @lopiop method? He said something about alt+tab and switching from game to desktop. Could this be the reason why the temperature reaches 90 celsius at the moment you alt+tab to desktop?

I am not sure bro, I have never sent my Y400 for service, right now, I just use the laptop for normal task, dont have other problems except for serious overheating issue.

What problem did you experience with the casing until the whole bottom needs to be replaced?

[quote=wilsonphua,Feb 1 2015, 09:02 PM]
Bro, did you use @lopiop method? He said something about alt+tab and switching from game to desktop. Could this be the reason why the temperature reaches 90 celsius at the moment you alt+tab to desktop?
I am not sure bro, I have never sent my Y400 for service, right now, I just use the laptop for normal task, dont have other problems except for serious overheating issue.

Ya I also using MSI Afterburner. Still reach 90 celcius though.

bro, try playing different games and see if the issue persist

Yup, tried Metro Last Light Redux, Dying light, still around 90 celcius even in lower settings

Also dents on the chickenwire.

Dude, what's your ambience[room] temperature?

Lol dunno. But not in a hot room. Temperature is cool enough for me to not sweat lol.

why not use cpu id and find out your laptop external temps

Lol don't see anything about external temperature in CPU-Z or HWMonitor.

This post has been edited by shadowlck: Feb 2 2015, 12:27 AM

I recommended you use HWInfo for temperature monitoring and even with fan control.
That is a very great piece of software for gamer. It support RTSS for in game status monitoring and fan control.

If you fan didn't kick in, try to manual control your fan by using that software. If fan in full speed and the temperature is in "ok" level.

It might related to your laptop manufacturer using a "not-very-temperature-friendly" fan profile bios to reduce noise level.

The sad thing is this laptop doesn't allow users to control the fan

Btw I move my laptop from living room to my bedroom and my laptop is quite cool for now but the cons is, I CANT CONNECT TO WIFI since the modem is place beside a thick wall in the living room

Are you put your laptop on your bed?

Haswell CPU is quite a hot CPU IMHO.

Try disabling the CPU Turbo boost.
It will help a lot on the temperature.

Go to your Power Options -> Change Plan Settings -> Change Advanced Power Settings -> Scroll and go to Processor Power Management -> Change the Maximum processor state from 100 to 99.

Your CPU will limit itself to 2.5Ghz max.
This usually won't affect the gaming performance by much. Probably 1-5% only.

Lol no. There's a table in my bedroom.

THIS WORKS! My CPU Temp is reduced from 90 celcius to 70-75 celcius!!!!!! Thanks MAN!!!!

Glad to help.

Btw, if your laptop have heatpipes and fan sharing between the CPU and GPU, it will benefit not only the CPU but also the GPU temperature.

i also noticed quite a reduction in cpu temperature with minimum fps drop

Lol the fps is barely drop for me. Now I no need to worry about temperature and annoying sudden frame drop anymore!!

is there any side effects of doing this? seems strange that the cpu should be topping so high by itself

So far I didn't find any problem by doing so. Everything seems normal for me now. Performance might have a very little drop but it is unnoticeable.

that's just a way to control the heat generated by cpu (via downclocking/underclocking). it doesn't really solve the real problem entirely.

the stock cooling system in the laptop should work well within acceptable range (about 80 to 85c under full cpu load, never more).

manufacturers should take care of the heat issues if it's still under warranty. if it's not, you might wanna clean the fans and vents, and replace the thermal paste when the temperature goes beyond 85c. maybe mount the laptop on a laptop cooler helps also.

Lol I just bought this laptop in past few weeks so it still considered as new laptop. There's not necessary to clean the fan or reapply thermal paste. Cooling pad isn't help much when gaming though. One of my friend also bought the same laptop and he also got the heat issue.

The problem is actually the CPU itself.
Haswell 47W Quad Core does get quite hot in most laptop, especially on a thin gaming laptop.

Some manufacturers even put an aggressive limit on the CPU temp and it will begin to downclock aggressively to maintain a good temperature.
Coz they know that these notebooks won't be able to handle a full clock Haswell 47W Quadcore.

So, by disabling the turbo boost, it will not only reduce the temp by a big margin, but also increase the lifespan of the CPU.
Offcourse it will sacrifice some processing performance. But most games rely highly on GPU more than CPU.
You can always enabling back again when you need the high processing power later on. It'll just take seconds.

How well you place the laptop, and how good the ambient temp will also helps, offcourse.

But I never disable Intel turbo boost while still in warranty since they will replace mobo if complain about the unusual high temperature. Yes, I usually Overclock the hell out my laptops.

Btw, nitro black got a shared heatpipe? It's no longer in my future laptop list.

ah then it's a design flaw :/

for thin laptops yes i agree. for laptops with proper cooling systems, no. (these laptops are thicker also) we all know the chips are hot, that's why it's important to check out the cooling system first.

i know, in a way yes it makes sense to do downclocking for these laptops to counter heat issues and all. it's true that manufacturers place all sorts of limits to overcome issues, but it really depends on the users. if the users are happy with downclocked performance, so be it. imo it's not really about how convenient for them to do the downclocking. to me i pay for something that works at least at stock configurations. if it's labelled as gaming, then it should behave like one.

Thanks for the suggestion, now my laptop isn't churning out those massive heat anymore

Mind do an experiment on how much frps drop when intel turbo boost is disable?
on games that uses single, dual and quad core.

And record the temps too.

bro, its perfectly normal to have high temperature on your CPU and GPU at 90 degree celcius while gaming, if you dont want your cpu hot then better just dont game at all

Normal is relative.
To TS, 90 is extreme.
To you, 90 is normal.
To me, 90 is barely enuf to reheat my pizza.

Yup, those thick gaming laptop have no excuse. They can provide quite a cool temp, coz it is designed that way.

Some(very few) thin laptop does perform a good job at cooling the Haswell 47w CPU. But most are just average or not good.

The problem is that, you either get a lower CPU which is usually a dual core or a quad core that is hot on max.
I would definitely get a quad core and limit its performance to get a better temp while still perform much better than a dual core CPU.
It's the GPU that is the most crucial part for gaming.
Playing games on a thin laptop with GTX 860M and underclock CPU is much more better than a thick laptop with a GT 840M without underclocking the CPU.

From what I heard is that the MSI GS60 with GTX 970M does quite a good job at cooling both the CPU and GPU.
But it'll cost a premium if you want the best of the best.


Good to know that

This post has been edited by Amal: Feb 3 2015, 08:48 PM

what software u use to check the temperature?

sound like illegearish.

I like to use HWInfo

I prefer MSI Afterburner since it can show temps and fraps while in game.

ok thanks

actually my point is to give the users who pay the money a more decent cooling system in gaming laptops.

right, gpu is still the main determinant in a gaming laptop. however there has been changes these days. we need to take into considerations that cpu has become more important for games like bf4. i have read that a desktop i5 started to see bottlenecks when the users play large 64-player maps. all these changes directly tied to cpu performance, and the generated heat is still the number one enemy in gaming laptops. (sooner or later we will be back to square one, as consumers. there is nothing more that we can do obviously)

manufacturers cannot simply expect us consumers to cope with this. they should focus more on improvements in a laptop cooling system.

edit: maybe msi is fine. we still have better options

This post has been edited by horns: Feb 3 2015, 09:17 PM

Any other Nitro user having high CPU temp problems? (Just wanna check that its not only me who having this problem).

Hated that.
rather use a 2nd screen for temps monitor. Fraps too if possible.

Lol why? It's quite convenient for me. If its blocking your screen, you can toggle it off though.

Do you know what is RTSS (Rivatuner Statistics Server)?
Do OSD sound like a new thing to you?

I understand your point. We all want that.
These manufacturers just don't care. They are like if you want the best, pay more.

Yes, BF4 does require a fast CPU, and put quite a heavy load on the CPU.
But I've been playing it on non turbo boost since it came out, and doesn't face any issue at all.
Fortunately not many games require a very fast CPU.
Though you will require a fast CPU if you're using a high end GPU, else it'll bottleneck.

Hopefully Directx12 will make things better for laptop users.

This post has been edited by Amal: Feb 3 2015, 09:31 PM

1. Yes but not using.
2. Nope.
Try watch your favorite movie with an alarm clock infront. You could move the clock but you will instinctively remembered to check the time.

Edited. Keep forgetting kids who should be in bed are reading this.

This post has been edited by ErgoProxi: Feb 3 2015, 09:54 PM

Hi, please mind your words and example you're using. This is not /k/, please take note.

This post has been edited by riku2replica: Feb 4 2015, 07:59 AM

Try watch your favorite movie with an alarm clock infront. You could move the clock but you will instinctively remembered to check the time.

Edited. Keep forgetting kids who should be in bed are reading this.
And you should edit yours too.

I can't understand what u want to say. Haha...
however, is 1st time I heard people told me that OSD of RTSS is actually blocking the screen.

RTSS is not movie with alarm clock in front.
is more like watching movie with a progress bar in front or even like watching movie with subtitle.

I really should assume that u don't know what is RTSS at all. Haha...

whatever, my advice to TS is he might not necessary need a second screen for temp monitor and 3rd screen for fps monitor if budget is a concern. He can use RTSS to do in game monitoring. MSI after burner, HWinfo both support RTSS.

Well there's a 1st for everything.
p/s: hate watching movie with a progress bar or subtitles.

I removed the factory applied thermal paste on my laptop, applied some Arctic MX4 and voila a 10c drop (from 95c to 85c, prime95 small fft) on my xps 15. On top of that, the cpu also runs a bit faster at 2.3ghz instead of 2.2ghz. Those temps are on the high side, but I'll take what i can.

yeah bf4 with large maps really stress the cpu out lol. oh you're running i7 on laptops? that's a good find. i believe that means it's more about core/thread numbers than clock. right for optimal purposes, if you have high-end gpu's, it's better to go with a good cpu. (still, i believe the cpu/gpu combo in the market is fine. it's just that they need to take care of the heat issues properly)

although w10 tech preview has it, we still need the gpu and proper drivers to support it. hopefully it's good

yeah about thermal pastes, for some reasons some thermal paste work very well for blower type cooling. i'm not sure why.

i have tried a number of them, including ic diamond, as5, mx4, tuniq tx-4, prolimatech pk2 and 3, gelid gc-extreme, and coolaboratory liquid ultra. from my tests with laptops, the best imo are liquid ultra and gc-extreme. (both can be found at garage sales i believe) it's no joke. the laptops as usual do get warmed. however internally the cpu and gpu are not. (at least 10c drop for my hot cpu/gpu. the cpu are 3820qm/3840qm and 4900mq, and the gpu are 680m, 780m and 880m)

if you don't wanna get liquid ultra because of its electrical conductivity (this one you have to be very careful), gc-extreme is a good choice (i saw it at fb of apes.my)

Yup vnitro users share your temperatures

I think we should open a new thread since this thread is about me having high temp haha.

This post has been edited by shadowlck: Feb 4 2015, 11:22 AM

I didnt get to test it on single/dual/quad core games but the FPS drop is negligible. And the temps didn't reach over 80c.

bro just reapply your thermal paste. my acer v nitro had a very thick stock thermal paste that make the temperature shoot up.

Perhaps, it is caused by the hot environment..
Move your laptop to the air-conditioned room, it would help to reduce the temp..
Try it..

Somebody mention msi doing well with heat. I can deny with my GE60. Can make crispy roti tissue.

It will do 90 degrees plus for cpu/gpu until
I disable intel turboboost and then it drops till 85+ for cpu/gpu.

Weirdly, it does 42-47 degrees on idle or light usage. Thats one fan system for u.

What is your CPU temp while gaming? Mind to tell?

This post has been edited by shadowlck: Feb 7 2015, 11:55 AM

for people who actually use the laptops before, they know the truth

Haha i may need thermal repaste soon. Wait warranty finish first.

Hi, is there anyone know how the GE62 cooling? Since it is c/w cooler boost 3 and dual fan.

maybe you can try ask this in msi laptops thread in mobile computing section.

Actually for me the cooler boost 3 is just the max fan speed.. I think nothing new..
You need to wait for review or test it out yourself. Since there isn't much user of GE62 yet.

My laptop also will be overheated sometimes.. especially while playing battlefield 4, maybe intel i3 can't really play battlefield 4?

You're playing Multiplayer or ??? Multiplayer requires good CPU also.. Single Campaign mode a decent GPU is sufficient to play on low/mid settings

I play Solo Mode but my laptop also will be overheated..
Maybe is because of i don't have a cooling pad..

What laptop you're using ? and how many degree C for your CPU and GPU ? Laptop is designed to dissipate heat on a decent rate, without any cooling pad. So cooling pad won't help much on it, maybe just 1-5 degree drop

I'm using Asus Tp500ln series laptop..
Well.. then i have no idea why my laptop will easily get overheated..

playing dota 2 on 72oc on stock thermal paste but after change then 60oc