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pehkay
post May 21 2015, 12:59 PM

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In experience, we are be those who turn the age. Today, we are those who must be instrumental to turn the age of the grace to the age of the kingdom. Just like in Noah's days, we have to "built the ark" to turn the age. And be like Samuel, Daniel, Zechariah etc.
QUOTE(14-9-2015 @ May 20 2015, 10:00 PM)
would u care to elaborate on the highlighted text? thanks.
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Bro, these are not small topics. Is there anything specific about it? Are you asking on turning the age? Or the millennial kingdom?

If it is on turning the age:

Usually, many times God does things to turn an age on earth. Like I mentioned, when God works on earth, He does so age by age. The reason is that men used by Him in one age often become fallen and fail to reach His goal. This forces God to turn the age, that is, to have a new start so that He can do what He wants to do in a new age.

There are many cases in the Old Testament. In a specific time, God would bring in a new age by accomplishing something through certain people. However, man often became degraded and fallen, and that age would soon become fallen and degraded until God has no way anymore.

So, God would have to bring in a new age. One age rose only to see it wane again. Another age rose and then also failed again.

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Build the ark? It does make Paul's word in Philippians 2:12, "Work out your own salvation with fear and trembling.", meaningful. What Noah and those who built the ark with him were doing was to work out their own salvation. Yes, it was God who had saved them, but the ark that delivered them was built with their own hands by God's grace.

When Peter stood up on the day of Pentecost, he told the people, "Be saved from this crooked generation" (Acts 2:40). This is NOT to be saved from perdition, i.e. initial salvation.

The Lord Jesus likened the present age to the days of Noah (Matt. 24:37-39). In the New Testament this present age is called a crooked and perverted generation (Phil. 2:15).

When man's nature was changed into that of a crooked and perverted generation, God's judgment came in. Under this judgment, God revealed to Noah the way for him to be saved out of that perverted generation, instructing him to build an ark, which would save him through water not only from God’s judgment on the earth but also out of that perverted generation (Gen. 6:11-14; 1 Pet. 3:20).

Using the examples in the Old Testament, Noah's descendants were divided into the nations, from which Babel (another crooked and perverted generation) was raised up (Gen. 10:32; 11:9). This forced God to call Abraham out of that situation (12:1-2). However, even Abraham's descendants fell into Egypt, where there was another perverted generation. Therefore, God came in again to call Abraham’s descendants and bring them out of Egypt (Exo. 1:1, 13; 3:8). This exodus was not only out from God's judgment but, even more, out from the Egyptian generation. The water of the Red Sea executed God’s judgment on Pharaoh and all his army, and the water also saved Israel out of Egypt and the evil power of Pharaoh (14:27-30). Noah was saved through water out of his generation, and Israel was also saved out of Egypt through the water of the Red Sea.

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We are saved by grace initially. That is one side of the truth. This is only half of our salvation. Noah was definitely saved by Old Testament standard. Yet, he build the ark. This is the other side of the truth. That we need to work our salvation by building up the church through our life and work in His grace. We also need to be saved from the other half, from this crooked and perverted generation.


pehkay
post May 21 2015, 01:23 PM

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QUOTE(leslmz2000 @ May 21 2015, 03:20 AM)
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Lol, that is a lot of questions lar.

Some of them on the source of the Biblical text can be easily goggled. I am no expert in the text of the Bible.

For example, the word "Torah" is a tricky one, because it can mean different things in different contexts. In its most limited sense, "Torah" refers to the Five Books of Moses: Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers and Deuteronomy. But the word "torah" can also be used to refer to the entire Jewish bible (the body of scripture known to non-Jews as the Old Testament and to Jews as the Tanakh or Written Torah), or in its broadest sense, to the whole body of Jewish law and teachings.

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Biblical Hebrew seems to have gone through three eras: Archaic Hebrew (1000 BC to 800 BC), Standard Biblical Hebrew (800 - 600 BC), and Late Biblical Hebrew (600 - 200ish BC). The Hebrews scribes preserved these different eras as they copied the Hebrew Bible in such a way that a trained person can see the different linguistic layers as they read through the ancient texts.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biblical_Hebrew
Are you a Christian by the way?

Perhaps you can start with asking one particular question like before. Then, perhaps the posters here can help you.

pehkay
post May 21 2015, 01:34 PM

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ May 21 2015, 01:11 PM)
Every Age in there, lies a picture of our Lord Jesus Christ, the ark for example is one. Joseph and David was also a pictograph of Christ.

God was giving hints and teaching us, to look to his son in this generation,  hence why we have the OT to study.

There is a book by  marilyn hickey on Finding Jesus in every book of the OT. Interesting read.
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Yaya .... biggrin.gif Typology, symbolism, figurative, shadows are used a lot in the Old Testament speak of the divine realities in terms of material, physical entities:

Like you mention:

Isaac as the only begotten son obeying his father even unto death and being resurrected from death typifies Christ (22:9-10; Heb. 11:19), and Rebekah typifies the Gentile component of
the church being chosen from the world.

Joseph being persecuted by his brothers typifies Christ being persecuted by the Jews, and his wife Asenath typifies the church being obtained by God in the world (Egypt).

Moses typifies Christ as God's Prophet leading His people out of Egypt, and Zipporah typifies the church in the wilderness;

Boaz typifies Christ as the Redeemer, and Ruth typifies the church being redeemed from the Gentile world.

David typifies the [warring] Christ who passed through all kinds of sufferings, and David's wife, Abigail, typifies the [warring] church in the midst of sufferings.

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post May 23 2015, 07:24 AM

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QUOTE(skydrake @ May 22 2015, 08:28 PM)
yeh, I'm just another crying child complaints pains after fall on the floor. the way he fix me is like merging 2 rusty gears to work, u can see those gears going to fall tear apart in the merging process..that's how I felt like I'm the gears.
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Take care. The Lord is most real as the resurrected One when we are at the bottom.

E.g. The Lord waited till Lazarus died and rot. The problem we are still too strong to survive.

pehkay
post May 26 2015, 11:17 AM

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QUOTE(tinarhian @ May 25 2015, 10:36 PM)
Let's ask our "senior" dudes, pehkay and unknown warrior.

Dudes, is it your sleep time now?  blush.gif

What does the Bible says about aliens?

No trolling answers please, I'm German.
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No comment. biggrin.gif Because I felt it is not profitable and nothing related to Christian life. biggrin.gif But that is just me.

Some people say Ezekiel refers to alien. If that is so, then all the spiritual meaning conveyed in that book through figures, pictures will be meaningless.

Someone I know did say this: There is that "ONE" principle in the Bible. There is one God, one Christ, one Spirit, one church .... etc. Perhaps, one universe, one earth .... that uniqueness.

I think you can check out, Hugh Ross, a Christian author on his book,

http://www.amazon.com/Lights-Sky-Little-Gr...s/dp/1576832082

Some reviewer:

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The sections of the book written by Ross were the most compelling for me. He lays out the utter impossibility of travelers from other galaxies making the trek from earth. In fact, he makes a strong case for the view that earth is the only planet in the universe capable of sustaining intelligent life. After he fully convinces the reader that UFOs are not carrying interstellar visitors, he uses the interdimensional model, accepted by many non-religious researchers, to explain the small percentage of UFOs that are actually legitimate. He ties in the fact that most alien abductees have a background in the occult (not necessarily ALL of them, with due respect to a previous reviewer) to conclude that demons are behind the UFO phenomenon.
This is a fascinating book, and I'm sure some people will shake their heads, but the authors make what seems to be an air-tight case.
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post May 27 2015, 08:17 AM

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QUOTE(14-9-2015 @ May 27 2015, 05:39 AM)
i'm of the opinion tat all these 'victims' who claim they got probed or violated by 'aliens' are just spiritual attacks. most dun mention they dabbled in the occult (ouija/channeling/meditation/summoning & the whole 9-yards) or other spiritual stuff tat made them vulnerable to all these attacks in the 1st place. they tell us part 2 but nvr part 1  sweat.gif 
True. I would agreed too. sweat.gif
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post May 29 2015, 08:43 AM

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QUOTE(de1929 @ May 29 2015, 06:53 AM)
Why UW asked that question ? learned and get educated about christian value.
Bro, the person who ask the question .... have to ask himself too .... happy.gif

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post May 29 2015, 02:25 PM

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QUOTE(de1929 @ May 29 2015, 01:41 PM)
you mean UW ? hahaha... yes whatever measure UW used will be used against him. confirmed  thumbup.gif
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LOL ..... hahah ... I meant you.

When you asked Luffy, whether he love you .... you should also ask whether you love him tongue.gif

pehkay
post Jun 5 2015, 11:42 AM

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Hey guys, it looks like it's my turn to open V10.

https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3599570

Thanks to Luffy for V9. biggrin.gif

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