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unknown warrior
post May 28 2015, 11:12 PM

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QUOTE(tinarhian @ May 28 2015, 09:38 PM)
Good advice as always.

How about the verse, Matthew 5:39?

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yawn.gif I'm sleepy, will answer by morning.

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post May 29 2015, 08:43 AM

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Guys,

don't throw your pearls away.

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post May 29 2015, 03:57 PM

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QUOTE(tinarhian @ May 28 2015, 09:38 PM)
Good advice as always.

How about the verse, Matthew 5:39?

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First you must understand the purpose why Jesus said that, and secondly you need to know, it was before the cross.

God never contradicts his own word. It's either Law keeping that saves you or his Grace alone. No mixture.

Just remember this simple rule of the thumb, what is the purpose of the law?

Galatians 3:19 (NIV) - Why, then, was the law given at all? It was added because of transgressions until the Seed to whom the promise referred had come. The law was given through angels and entrusted to a mediator.

The purpose of the law is to show us our sin. That is all, nothing more, nothing less. That is what it means in Galatians 3:19 in the phrase: It was added because of transgressions

When you understand Galatians 3:19, you will understand why Jesus say;

1. unless your righteousness surpasses that of the Pharisees and the teachers of the law.
2. And anyone who says, ‘You fool!’ will be in danger of the fire of hell.
3. But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart.
4. But I tell you, do not resist an evil person. If anyone slaps you on the right cheek, turn to them the other cheek also.
5. But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you,

Jesus raised the the bar challenge even higher than Matthew 5 when He

1. Told the Rich Young Man to give up all his riches (Luke 18)
2. Told People to eat his Flesh and drink his Blood. (John 6:53)

Why? Why all of these? I'll tell you why. Jesus wanted this respond in John 6:60

On hearing it, many of his disciples said, “This is a hard teaching. Who can accept it?

WHO CAN ACCEPT IT? = Who is able keep it? Greek word "dunamai". I can tell you with 100% certainty, all of us, during our Christian life would have committed some of the offences mentioned, so by right, do you think all of us are going to hell then? I would think so. Someone may say, but if we repent, God will forgive us. I will then ask you, how many times you want to repent? You will say God is merciful and faithful, He will keep on forgiving us then my final question to you is; what is the difference then? If you say God will keep forgiving us as long as we try then can you really keep it?

Deep down inside, you know you cannot.

What is this all about then? The answer is this:

God wants Man to come to the end of himself so that He lose hope in himself and look to Christ as a Saviour.

I can tell you for sure, 100% Nobody can keep those laws. All there is in Matthew 5 is for that purpose.

We need to have this permanent view. Not this temporary trying to keep the Law while having grace. There is no such thing the word of God does not permit it.

Only Grace can bring us out of this problem.
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post May 31 2015, 12:02 PM

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QUOTE(Edward Winter @ May 29 2015, 05:22 PM)
Amen Brother, thank you for your explanation.

Do you mind to elaborate more on "Not this temporary trying to keep the Law while having grace. There is no such thing the word of God does not permit it."?

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Hi Brother,

Sorry I didn't reply earlier.

The thing about the flesh in us even though we are already saved, it has this propensity to keep going back to the Law.

What I mean is this:

Predominantly we will always feel That we are made justified by our actions but the Bible says are justified by our Faith and by what Christ did for us.
We dare come to God when we do and act right but shuns away when we do wrong.

Our mind needs to repent from this fleshly justification. We need to keep on coming to God knowing that it is not by what we have done or have not done.

We need to be mindful that it is His Grace all the way, never our efforts. I use the word effort because some Churches today teaches wrong that it pertain to good works which is not the complete picture.



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post May 31 2015, 12:10 PM

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QUOTE(kron_ka @ May 30 2015, 06:24 PM)
Hi guys,

You know i've been coming in and out of here...i recently mentioned about issue of church policy and stuff like that. Yeah, forget about it.

Recent update, of my christian "love" life - disappointing.

Sigh...well you know when i prayed to God and ask him to open doors after my ex dumped me? Yes I met another girl. She's from another church. Trouble is, we met via tinder. But i know she's a nice girl and she's part of her worship team at her church. She's only 26.

So yeah, when i met her on 1st date, it was like wow, we spoke spoke and spoke until midnight. Second date, I ask her for lunch, we spoke until it was night time, we forgot about that. Then third date, I asked her if i could pick her from her house, she said she was ok.

Then it came the fourth date. When i came to pick her up, her father confronted me. He can't converse in english and my mandarin was bad. So we both had limited communication. She jumped into my car, but the father gently knock at my window, i opened it and greeted him uncle. He said to me that he was not happy about us. He asked me how we met, and i made the silly mistake of saying internet. With his limited english, he said he not agree. He say he will not want us both to go out. But the girl insisted we leave, so I said sorry and we left.

Then after the 4th date, she texted me some encouraging messages. I was quite happy. Then I texted her to ask her out, no answer. I saw her online. The next day i called her.

This time she told me that her mom, wanted to follow us for our date instead. Her mom suggested a place to go that is quite tough to climb a hill. So I suggested another place, she say she is ok, she will check with her mom.

Then that night I thought of idea of asking whether if i could buy gifts for her mom, like cakes or stuff like that. I texted her to ask her about that..she was online but no reply, for the whole day. I got anxious, and ask her "what does she think of both of us"..no reply. Then i ask her if I could call her. She say "yeah can call her, but wait till next day because she is busy". I called her the next day, no reply.

So I like thinking here, is this over? Should I move on?
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I think you should tackle the father.
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post May 31 2015, 11:51 PM

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QUOTE(kron_ka @ May 31 2015, 11:48 PM)
I want to marry the daughter not the father.

Besides, i think how the father confronted, is very unbiblical.
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the equation would be the same.

You'll need his blessings anyway.

Don't tell me you're going get married to his daughter and have problem with her father the rest of your life?

I don't think this would be right.
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post Jun 1 2015, 12:36 AM

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QUOTE(kron_ka @ May 31 2015, 11:55 PM)
I think the most important is the will of the daughter. If the daughter accepts me, eventually the father has no choice but to warm up to me.

Of course, I would respect him because he is the father of the girl I am going after. I will try my best to please him. But i can only go so far.

If he tries to abuse me verbally or ignore me, I can only put up a thickskin and not bother about him. I do want to please him, but I do not want to end up a doormat, sucking up to him all the time, I have my limits.

I also have my limitations, I am not very well verse in mandarin, I am a cantonese speaker but he is a hokkien speaker. He is not good in english. So how can i communicate with him?
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Bro, that's kind of being self centered.

I don't think God would want a broken disharmony for any family.

That girl is still her daughter, God chose Him as the Father that she would come through in this world.

You can't brush him away over his daughter. He has fed her and brought her up all his life, doesn't matter whether he's a good dad role model or not.

This is something you have to learn, you'll need the father's blessing for marriage because eventually IF you get married, you will be a father too one day. You might not feel the pain now, but you'll understand how he feels when you become one yourself.
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post Jun 1 2015, 02:04 PM

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QUOTE(kron_ka @ Jun 1 2015, 01:05 PM)
I am not saying I want to brush him off. But if it comes to the point that if Godwillingly his daughter accepts and loves me but her father doesn't, what do you have me to do? Just give up?

I can only do so much to impress and honor him. But if he still keeps up his dislike for me, I can't help it. Most important is what his daughter thinks of me.
If his daughter likes me, I will impress him through winning his daughter's heart.

This weekend I am taking her mom and sister to an outing. I just hope I can make them feel that I am an ok guy. I have some communication difficulties. Her mom is an active church goer. Gulp..but I am not sure if she will be asking questions but I have to prepare myself  1) My pay - I just say I earn near five figures
2) About the big age gap btw me and her daughter of 13 years....I will give the example of Abraham and Sarai who had Isaac at 80 years old 3) About financial plan, since I will retire in 20 years, I will have to think of a bible verse somewhere..."all things work in the hands of God?" 3) Why I still live with my parents - I am filial son? An incident that my dad almost died at home, but I saved his life. I still have a condo under construction - will move out 4) Why I take so long to find a gf? - I just tell her its very hard, because I have to find Christian gf, not easy. 5) Why am I a banana? I give eg of my friend who is banana, who went to Beijing to work - 6 years later, he mastered mandarin and married a PRC girl

I am also concern during the outing, what if her whole family starts speaking mandarin and hokkien? I be a lamp post. I am very nervous, never
done this b4. My previous rship, I never met my second ex gf parents b4 and in my 1st rship - yes I met my ex gf's mum, but I was still a child then.

UW, at my age 40, I not sure if I am gonna be a father. I do wanna be a father but I just dunno how I can convince this girl's parents that I can provide for a family.
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Actually it's just the matter of setting her father at peace.

I know this is difficult but it'll help in the long run.

Beside, you'll need time to know the person.

Don't rush into marriage, you'll regret it.

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post Jun 2 2015, 09:30 AM

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QUOTE(kron_ka @ Jun 1 2015, 06:40 PM)
I will try my best as possible. But if he is dent on rejecting me, I can't do anything about that. The most important issue is how much her daughter is willing to accept me? It does not matter how much the father like or hate me, if the daughter doesn't like me too.

I got my flaws, brother. I am a person who is very sensitive and gets offended very easily. So I think this is truly a test from God that I have to learn to persevere and be more patient. I need to be more thickskin. I know I may get a lot of hostility from her parents....I mean if your daughter is going out with a dude 13 years older than her, you would of course be very protective and very inquisitive.

I just want to pray for wisdom and no matter what's the result, to look to God always.
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The thing is ALL relationship takes time. Even with God it takes time to get to know Him.

Just take it easy, get to know the parent, get to know her first before committing anything.

The true color of a person will only come out after some time, by then you'll know if you're suited for each other, you won't find out much during the first few months of encounter.

IMO minimum at least 1 year, ideally the best is 3 years to be in relationship before getting married.

I really face palm seeing some couple, within weeks or just couple months of knowing each other then get married. Then after marriage, found out, not compatible with each other or keep on having problem with in laws, it's a no brainer really why these things happened. Just lack the patience to discover what is what and who is who. doh.gif

It's your life really, I'm just advising from neutral perspective and I think you'll be alright.

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post Jun 4 2015, 09:41 AM

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QUOTE(kron_ka @ Jun 3 2015, 10:45 PM)
Very stress la, church no friend, office no friend. Work work work, underpaid, overwork. My company move two of my staff to another department, now I have to cover work for 3 people. People say single life is good...I wonder why. Go to church sit alone, worship, listen to sermon, then go eat lunch alone, then go back home alone. I watch TV every night to relieve my stress. I haven't read the bible for 3 months straight. I better start.

I only have one hobby, cycling. But my back's been hurting lately.

No need to know economics to know ringgit is beggar money. I go to bookshop and wonder why paperback books are cost RM30 each. Ridiculous. In the 1990s, paperback books cost RM 15. Way back in the late 1980s, I used to buy Lone Wolf game books for RM 6 each, and they were 400 pages thick.
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QUOTE(tinarhian @ Jun 3 2015, 11:13 PM)
Its ironic that some people suggests that one should always look for a "friend" in your own church? Honestly, I do not have a lot of my own church friends myself. But I have friends from other churches. hahaha...

Ah, that's quite common traits in the Malaysian working environment. Underpaid and overworked because the boss is so stingy and !#@#.

But then so are Christian bosses as well. I do not see any difference between Christian and non-Christian bosses.  laugh.gif

What I enjoy single life (sort of). You can eat on your own, watch movie and TV without fighting over the channels.

Wear casual in the house. hehe...

Haven't read the bible in 3 months?!! Lord have mercy...

unknown warrior, preach your "faith and grace" to this dude, least he become a heathen.  shocking.gif

I have one therapeutic hobby, ie, shopping. I worked out my whole body dude in a single day. Even my credit card get worked out.  shocking.gif

Oh, I shopped for cheap books at Xcess Bookstore.

Lone Wolf game books? unknown warrior, what the heck is Lone Wolf?  blush.gif
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laugh.gif Bro better read your Bible everyday.

Jesus says Man does not live by bread alone but also by every word that proceeded from the mouth of God meaning his bible.

If we don't feed read his word, our spirit man will be malnourished and becomes very weak and can lose sight of the goal God gave us in life.


To Tina, Lone Wolf is a Game Book. You read and make choices by turning to respective pages out of those choices and they have combat system, pretty much something like Dungeons and Dragons thingy.
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post Jun 5 2015, 11:23 AM

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QUOTE(kron_ka @ Jun 4 2015, 05:43 PM)
I try to read the bible daily...but sometimes I come back home late from work so tired..just want to hit the sack. I been a bit rusty since I pull out of bible study this year.

UW, have you heard of scripture planting? Does it work? Last time when I went for missions, my church have this peculiar practice of planting scriptures (piece of paper - with toothpicks) at the areas of our ministry. Last time in my previous job, I had a dragon lady boss, so I planted scriptures near her office room for my protection.  hmm.gif

Yeah those days we didn't have X box, PC games and internet, so we play game books and collect spiders into tic tac boxes..for gladiator battle.
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Hi Kron,

Just read the Bible is bite size if you don't have the time. Take at least 2-3 minutes, you can go systematically or just pray and ask the HS to guide you as you turn the page, I'm sure you can spare just those few minutes.

Nah, those ( scripture planting) are just superstitious practises. IMO, better not go into it because it's not biblical.

The word of God is only power in Faith and in practise in ones life, not planting to the ground. It does nothing there.

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