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Why don't you try this.Forget about yourself for few days.
Think of others, whom you know, need help.
This is a biblical principal.
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QUOTE(De_Luffy @ Mar 11 2015, 01:32 PM) would you mind to shut up please, he is asking for protestant church and protestant church does not limited to traditional churches only it does include charismatic churches as well.....although not under the same doctrine but still they are considered protestant church I find de1929 changed a lot, tried inviting him back here via PM.Can see he's still stubborn. |
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QUOTE(kron_ka @ Mar 7 2015, 09:49 AM) Not really....the dude name is Velocity. I believe he used to be a guy name Aspire 2006...always hanging around certain forums to bash people with relationship problems and he would try to boast how great he is in satisfying women needs, and his business he is trying to grow. I just want to point this out.The thing is, when he said all those things, I realized how lost he is, deep into the world. Thats why I feel so sorry for him, lost sheep, I really felt a great need of love for this guy. I may be unker, but yeah an unker who lost someone dear to him...but unker still has Jesus to fill his heart, Unker will live on for eternity Amen. Unker Kron just feel for the people of this world love the world so badly, who is going to be sucked down the pit of sin.... Hmm good idea about sharing Jesus with him, when i have the chance...the thing is, the guy likes to report me, would you think it be breaking forum rules, if I shared Jesus with him, openly at other forums? This is one of the fruits of the HS. I believe God wants me to point this out, so that you know, he's working in your life. Never say God don't care about you. Not everyone gets this fruit manifested. You are blessed, bro! This post has been edited by unknown warrior: Mar 11 2015, 04:47 PM |
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QUOTE(tinarhian @ Mar 11 2015, 05:44 PM) Bold part reminded me of my teenage years. Perhaps bcos of the way you were brought up? I was brought up that way. My family snotty and all that.I used to have Lust of flesh and eye too. But not anymore. Pride of life? People tend to say that I'm a boastful person. Maybe because I'm confident. It's alright, all these will change by God's grace, meaning keep on and keeping on (bad english I know) receiving God's unmerited favour. Why? Because it's very hard to sin against a Father who is loving and gracious. |
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QUOTE(tinarhian @ Mar 11 2015, 06:00 PM) Nah, it's not that. I'm the snotty brat in the family. "The middle child syndrome." That De is now going in there to mess up the Catholics.But I'm slowly changing to become a better person. Less temperamental and less princessy syndrome. (bad English I know). de1929 is misinterpreting my sentences again. I pity them. |
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Those who are going through bad times, evil times, let me encourage you, you're being exposed on purpose by God for training to greater Glory.
It is something that is beyond your ability to withstand with dignity. It is expose on purpose so that it drives you to the Lord for dependency in trust, comfort and strength. You are loved by the Lord. This is the admonition from the Lord I get in the spirit. Take comfort Bro n Sis. |
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IN HIM QUOTE Ephesians 1:7 (NIV) - In him we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, in accordance with the riches of God's grace Dear Friends, I pray that Father God will open your spiritual heart to receive this in Jesus Name because it will strengthen your Faith. I want to address this erroneous idea, the wrong idea that people have, about Salvation. Most people think God gave Salvation or that Jesus died on the cross, rose again and gave Salvation to Man sending the gift from Heaven (distance) then Jesus is now back in Heaven and then you have to maintain it. It's like, you have a good friend living in overseas, say Canada sending you a gift that you really like and when you receive the parcel by mail, Then you have to take care of that gift (object), you're given. No dearly beloved in Christ, Salvation is nothing like this. Salvation is not something given from a distance. God did not give you the subject of Salvation, he gave you the person of Salvation. Jesus Christ did not give you salvation, HE IS SALVATION! Having Jesus = SALVATION! Sorry for the capslock but this is something you need to get into your spirit. If you do not have Christ, you do not have Salvation. If you have Christ, it means you receive Him as the person of Salvation, hence the very meaning of Saviour. How do you maintain your Saviour if indeed you need to maintain your Salvation? How do we work with our hands and feet if indeed we need to maintain this Salvation? Somebody will quote you, Work out your salvation with fear and trembling WITHOUT quoting the next verse in context FOR IT IS GOD.........who works in you... Without the person of Jesus, there is No God "who works in you" changing and molding you. BTW changing you or in other words, sanctifying you doesn't mean you're in the process of having Salvation, you already HAVE Salvation when you accept Christ. It is given IN THE PERSON of Christ. That is why the main verse for this devotion as above in Ephesians 1:7 In HIM you have redemption and forgiveness of sins and the HS made it even clearer, according to the riches of your works, your obedience to God? No According to the richest of his GRACE! Now I leave you with one powerful closing Bible verse which I hope you will take the trouble to memorize and remember Colossians 1: 22-23 (NIV) 22 But now he has reconciled you by Christ’s physical body through death to present you holy in his sight, without blemish and free from accusation— 23 if you continue in your faith, established and firm, and do not move from the hope held out in the gospel. This is the gospel that you heard and that has been proclaimed to every creature under heaven, and of which I, Paul, have become a servant. Through your works? Through your upholding of the moral law of the 10 commandments? You are kept Holy in God's sight without blemish and free from accusation by your Faith. No where under the NT, does it say you are kept Holy if you uphold the "moral law" of the 10 commandments. And look in verse 23 THIS IS THE GOSPEL! What Gospel? The Gospel of God's grace that causes you to be HOLY, WITHOUT BLEMISH AND FREE FROM ACCUSATION by your Faith. Nothing more, nothing less. In the last devotion, the Bible says Kick Out "Hagar" a type of the Law. Remove the whole system of the Old Covenant completely! Those fighting for the Law, you will not find any support of what is written in Colossians 1:22-23. Don't chain yourself to bondage again like the son of Hagar, son of the slave. You are the son of the free. Amen? God Bless. This post has been edited by unknown warrior: Mar 14 2015, 12:34 PM |
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QUOTE(yaokb @ Mar 14 2015, 11:40 PM) UW sharing leaves much for us to process. Hi Yaokb Bro,I agree with much of it. But I want to share the other side of the story. While it is true God will never forsake us or abandon us, we have to take care that WE do not leave God. The Christian life is one of constant surrender to the Holy Spirit and one of constantly abiding in the True Vine, Jesus Christ. We will be constantly pruned so that we will bear more fruit. John 15:1-17 is a difficult passage to read. We must remember it is not by our Effort that we bear fruit but by our Surrender to God and abiding in His presence that we bear fruit. This is what is emphasized by UW. It is when we refuse to yield and insist on our own way , that we are in danger of falling away. is it even possible? Yes consider Hebrews 6:4-6 For it is impossible, in the case of those who have once been enlightened, who have tasted the heavenly gift, and have shared in the Holy Spirit, and have tasted the goodness of the word of God and the powers of the age to come, and then have fallen away, to restore them again to repentance, since they are crucifying once again the Son of God to their own harm and holding him up to contempt. and Hebrews 10:26-28 For if we go on sinning deliberately after receiving the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins, but a fearful expectation of judgment, and a fury of fire that will consume the adversaries. Anyone who has set aside the law of Moses dies without mercy on the evidence of two or three witnesses. So then, on one hand, we have the free gift of Grace and salvation through Faith. On the other hand is continual abiding in Christ that ensures our salvation. This is why we say Grace may be free, but it is not cheap. the price required from us is quoted in Romans 12:1 Therefore, I urge you, brothers and sisters, in view of God’s mercy, to offer your bodies as a living sacrifice, holy and pleasing to God—this is your true and proper worship. Which brings us to the reason why Jesus says in Matt 7:13-14, because many will refuse to continue following God. Enter through the narrow gate; for the gate is wide and the way is broad that leads to destruction, and there are many who enter through it. 14"For the gate is small and the way is narrow that leads to life, and there are few who find it. Enough for now. have a good rest and enjoy worshiping God tomorrow! The bible has answers for everything, especially how to stay close with God and not lose sight of him. What I've written down, the intention is to get you guys strong in the foundation, but it is not complete, you guys have to see in a collective manner what I wrote and link it collectively. Then it will make sense. There's only so much I can write, I can't project everything here completely in long passages, it's not humanly possible and it will also cause lost of interest (TLDR.) Foundations are very important because it is what that will help you be stable and firm in God. No point to talk about losing Salvation and the further teachings and understanding of the Bible when our very foundation is still shaky. I see many Christians have very weak or bad foundation. So what happens is that before learning to walk, they want to run ahead. I've seen Christians like that, when they don't have strong foundation and they want to partake deep knowledge of God, but when trials and tribulations come, they fall away and lose Faith saying it does not work or God don't answer their prayers. When the fact is, they don't have strong foundation to begin with. How can we reach out to others, or teach others if we don't have strong foundation of our salvation? When we're not even sure of your own salvation, can we convince others that they can be saved? When we're not even convince that God loves us very much, still living in fear that he will punish us base on what we do, can we convince others that God loves them? You can't. You can either present a Harsh and Judgemental God or a Graceful and Loving God. Which do you think Jesus represents? Many Christians presents a mixture and people get confuse. Is He a loving God or an uncertain mix emotion God? You get the idea. Hope you guys can be patience with me. I am for holiness because the Bible says without Holiness, no one will see the Lord. Only I differ from most conventional teaching because for the longest time, they teach holiness by what you do and don't do and that points back to the Law which is a problem spiritually because it voids Faith. If you don't believe how can laws of God voids Faith, it's in Romans 4:14 where it talks about accessing God's inheritance which we all need to. I teach what the Bible teaches which is deeply rooted in the grace of God. (Titus 2:11-12) For the longest time, the mistake of the Pharisee was, they were fully concentrated on avoiding mistakes, what not to do, what you can do until they lost sight of life and they lost their common sense. It became a religion. That is the common mistake most Christian do today. They think it is by what their hands and feet do that pleases the Lord when the Bible is very clear it is Faith that pleases the Lord for without it is IMPOSSIBLE. The Christian Life is not about what you do or cannot do in order to be close with God. Jesus only said, do 1 thing. Love your neighbours. The more you do that, you will love God by accident. You don't even have to worry about trying to Love God. The Lord have design by practising that virtue alone, you will automatically Love God More. When you have the right spirit, you don't need the law to dictate your life. The Bible says against the fruits of the Spirit, there is no law. And when you do this in increasing measure, with a strong foundation of Faith, it's very hard for the devil to trick you into thinking about losing Salvation. This post has been edited by unknown warrior: Mar 15 2015, 10:49 PM |
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Morning guys. Just want to tackle difficult to understand passages or misunderstood passages. 1) The Vine and the Branches John 15:1-7 I want to bring your attention to verse 5 John 15: 5 (NIV) I am the vine; you are the branches. If you remain in me and I in you, you will bear much fruit; apart from me you can do nothing. Jesus didn't say try to be a branch. Neither did He say exert your effort to be a branch. Jesus says you already are the branch. That takes Faith. I say that takes faith. To remain or abide in Jesus means that you believe in Him and all that he says about Him loving you. In context to John 15, to abide in Jesus means to love others (verse 12). No Laws. It has nothing to do with DO's and DON'T's of the law. When you affirm that you are the branch everyday effortlessly, you will access into the Grace of God bearing fruit or results. If you look at the overall picture in John 15, God actually wants your prayers answered effortlessly so that He gets the Glory. Never entertain the idea that God wants to make it difficult for your prayers to be answered. Jesus has made it easy and simple. It is religion that Man, tries to complicated for people and cause their Faith to be made void. 2) Hebrews 6:4-6 & Hebrews 10:26-28 (Falling Away & Deliberately Sinning) You need to read the entire book of Hebrews in total to understand my explanation. This passage about Impossible to be brought back and fallen away and sinning deliberately is in this context below: It applies to those who reject what Jesus offer and wants to go back to the Law. Those who reject God's Grace (Jesus) purposefully, It will be impossible for Him to be brought back (Fallen Away) to repentance because there is no more sacrifice for sins under the OT Covenant. When you understand this, you will understand what it means that those who sin deliberately, there is no more sacrifice for sins left (verse 26) only fearful judgement from God. Because if you think about, even right now under the New Covenant you can sin deliberately (pornography?). If Hebrews 10 is true as to what most people think, then even under the New Covenant, you have no Hope even if you try to repent, this apply to everyone because there are no perfect human being, not even John Piper. Makes no difference even if you say, only those who really repented or repented earnestly, God will be merciful. Read carefully what it says, those who sins deliberately, there is no more sacrifice of sins left. So try to understand the context. Don't allow the religion of Man confuse you. 3) Romans 12:1 (Offering Body as Living Sacrifice) Talks about, not to be arrogant to think we have replaced Israel as the ingrafted branch. We are favoured one compared to them. We did not replace them, it was only because of their unbelief, God turn and open up Salvation to all. IF they believed from the beginning, we may not have it so easy. Israel will still be saved at the end. Therefore, we need to understand God's Grace and be humbled. Paul exhortation is that because God is so good, therefore, offer yourself as an instrument that God can use in view of God's mercy or Grace. That is the context. Remembering that it's God's goodness, we get all this. Not because we must offer our body as living sacrifice because 10 commandments requires it or because God has high expectation of us. 4) Matthew 7:13-14 (Narrow Gate) If it's true that, only a few finds this then it will contradict what John wrote seeing multitudes like the sea dressed in white robes those who being saved that is uncountable in the book of revelations. With that being said, I believe it does not refer to Salvation. Then what it is? I believe it refers to the abundant life that Jesus came to give. Many are on the path of destruction in life refers to this current life. There are many Rich people who are poor, if you know what I mean. Poor in marriage, deprive of good sleep. Even many Christians are loaded with worries and cares. They just can't bring themselves to trust God. In the sense many trust in their own strength or the law rather than trusting completely in the Grace of God. So what happens is that those group of people go in life, having their own way. And we know that many times it is rather disastrous in life when we do that. Please calm down and think for a moment, don't get upset or angry. It is not meant to counter argue for the sake of arguing who is right. In the explanation over all above. if you have spiritual heart to discern this, God wants the Kingdom of God to be effortless for you. That you can access Him and come to Him just like that. There is no mount Sinai to climb. No Mountains. In Fact Jesus wants every mountains (hindrances) to be removed. God Bless. This post has been edited by unknown warrior: Mar 16 2015, 10:40 AM |
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QUOTE(nigelhanzo @ Mar 16 2015, 06:00 PM) I think so too.. Actually the Bible gave 2 signs how this world will come to an end. It won't be immediate. One is that when the gospel has been preached to the whole world (Matthew 24:14) or when Israel acknowledge Jesus is the Christ / Messiah by saying: Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord!’ (Matthew 23:39)The story goes that when there was no more good man on earth, the end of days will come, just like the great flood in 'Noah'.. A great disaster will happen and everyone would basically just die.. then life would start over again.. x.x There will be Rapture, The great Tribulation, then the Millennium Then the white throne Judgement where Satan is finally cast into the pits of Hell. Life will start over in New Heaven, New Earth. Old Earth will be destroyed with all it's corruption. This post has been edited by unknown warrior: Mar 16 2015, 08:00 PM |
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QUOTE(yaokb @ Mar 16 2015, 06:53 PM) Bro. UW, Hi Bro Yao,I have mentioned earlier that "there are 7 billion people on earth and I dare say there are 7 billion viewpoints on God." Interpreting scripture is no different. You are just more generous in your interpretations than I am. You are right, there is no point arguing. I hold to the view that as long as our basic belief in Christ is correct, all the others is supplementary. I will just share whenever I feel led to. Cheers and God bless. There is a way to know, how to test the spirit. Whether the teaching helps to increase your Faith in God or cause you to be closer to God OR causes your faith to diminish or shrink & place a barrier between you and God. I'm always at peace with any preaching or teaching that helps me to be closer with God. After all that is what Jesus came to do, to remove every form of barrier towards God. This is the spirit. The ones that causes faith to diminish or cause the person to see God untouchable has very much to do with this verse, all in context of the law. 1 Corinthians 15:56 (KJV) - The sting of death is sin; and the strength of sin = is the law. This post has been edited by unknown warrior: Mar 17 2015, 09:44 AM |
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QUOTE(Right Hand Man @ Mar 17 2015, 09:05 AM) i mean if god wanted to create a new world..why even put sin into human being. jst put all those lovely affection in human and be done with it. doesnt make sense to put a rat in a container with a cheese and go tell the rat, eat the cheese and i will roast u in oven.. God didn't put sin into adam and eve. He did created them with love affection. In the beginning there was no sin. They weren't put in a confine space like a container, the garden of Eden is huge. In fact God gave the whole world, the whole continent, before land broke into continents, it was their world to rule.I believe by theological commentaries, Satan already fell before the creation of Adam and Eve. Remember I told you that Hell was created for Satan? He wanted to bring as many as possible with him into hell, not God. You have to get your understand of the flow and sequence of this correct. |
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QUOTE(Right Hand Man @ Mar 17 2015, 09:52 AM) eh bro why u summon me here pulak..this is christ tered eh.. Same thing la bro, If I start answering in detail in public, Moslems might get offended pulak, so better I answer you here. Anyway, that's the answer.there's a reason i didnt ask here but instead opt to create my own tered..wouldnt wanna offend anyone... |
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QUOTE(Right Hand Man @ Mar 17 2015, 10:05 AM) Hahaa..ok..u got point.. It wasn't meant to be like that from the beginning. When God created the Angels and Human, everything was good.so the thing i dont understand is that why even create hell for satan in the 1st place? assuming god indeed get sad when sinned soul is tortured in hell by Satan. Why even give satan a place to rule? I believe Angels and Human they have this ability to make their own decisions of free will. Something happened to Satan before He became Satan. He was Lucifer, a beautiful Arch Angel of God. The Name Satan actually means persecutor, Hastan in hebrew. He became corrupted out of his own beauty and He wanted to remove God and be Like Him. That is when God cast him out of Heaven. God did not create Hell for Satan to rule but to condemn him. |
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QUOTE(Right Hand Man @ Mar 17 2015, 10:19 AM) Ok..thanks bro. Yes perhaps that is also another factor but wasn't recorded in the Bible. What I told you about Satan wanted to take over God is recorded.But i thought Lucifer, actually got jealous because god treated human better than angels? Hence he rebelled? instead of wanted to be like him? And the thing about hell was meant to condemn lucifer, why sinned soul need to go there as well? knowing that those souls will end up either being further tortured by satan, which would make god sad, or further manipulated and used by satan as his followers in the upcoming war between heaven and hell? If ur fighting the nazi german, u dont throw ppl to nazi territory and see them being recruited by the nazi isnt it? that would jst strengthen nazi's troop. We can only assume Satan was jealous because God gave Man authority and dominion over his creation. The Angels were far stronger and more beautiful than any Man. But the ways of God is not the same as how Man thinks. For us we will select the strongest, the best, the most beautiful but God always chooses the lowly thing, the weak things to confound the strong. I believe the reason is humility. Why Sinners need to go there? Well it's not that God force any sinner to go there, we all have a choice to choose, that is why I told you God wants to save us but Satan wants us dead and condemn for eternity. That is why this is call the Gospel meaning Good News. Jesus came to save us, so that we don't have to go to Hell and be condemn with Satan. He offers us Life in Heaven when we believe He is our Saviour and God. |
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