Really depends on you Bro.
You can take your time for this to happen or you can get take the first step like Captain Nashon.

The Israel wandered in the wilderness for 40 year when it could have been only weeks if only they simply believed.

Believe, hearing and understanding the word God = Faith will come.

I believe that exercise comes in after you take the first step of Faith. The more you exercise , is like honing your Faith to greater level. (As explained in the book of James)

But still, that first Step have to come in, Faith.

Edit:

1. Yes Ask the HS for that.
2. Up to you lah Bro. If Me I don't want to wait another year,2,3 or 5 years. I'll get desperate on my knees, knowing how times are changing and the enemies being aggressive.

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lolwut? But why? Nvm. You can ask here.

Not really extra per say but those books was rejected by Protestants Because primarily, of the conflicting views on

1. Work Base Salvation
2. Prayers to the Saints
3. Offering penance to the dead
4. Purgatory
5. Worship of Mary
6. Conflicting theology

There are references you can find on the net.

I don't want to have a war started here.

Yo, Why backslided? Come join us, we help to remove that bit by bit.

Yup. The Bible is complete for everything situation.

Trusting God is trusting what the Bible says.

Told you guys.

It's a worship event, there's always an element of evangelism, anyway because They might invite people to accept Jesus at the end of the program.

IMO, you don't get to experience a Hillsong worship experience always, it's a once in a life time kind of thing for people who don't travel often.
If I have the extra budget, I would definitely go to experience one time.

Hi Bro,

Abraham waited 20 years before Isaac came.

20 years. Think about it. God promised Abraham, He will have a son in his old age.
In the course of that waiting, they tried to use human reasoning and Ismael came. Your situation is kind of similar here.

But God never fail to keep his promise.

Does that justify losing Faith?

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Nothing wrong with Hillsong.

Very anointed IMO.

They have a right to cover their expenses and continuity in the ministry, that would require profit.

God is okay with prospering his children. It's proven all over the place in the Bible. Just be careful don't let money rule your life.

And Don't listen to hypocrites.

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The secret that John discovered.

Once in a life time yo.

You still single right?

thanks. typed fast without thinking.

pray lah, apa lagi.

Don't get intimidated to pray for this. Nothing wrong, in fact it give pleasure to the father that we come to Him for everything in life.

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U ask lah, is it because of worldliness?

If it is, then she understood it wrong.

I think I did show you before what is worldliness.

It's not Hillsong for sure or your bag.

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If you have accepted Christ, you can only have 1 covenant.

The Old Covenant causes Faith to be voided and your inheritance nullified. (Romans 4:14)

That is why many christians find difficulty in having Faith in God because they want to step on 2 mountains.

But God would not have that. (Romans 11:6 & Galatians 4:30)

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It really depends. If their livelihood depends on this as ministry then they are entitled to be paid. Why? Because they don't hold any other jobs.
Note down this verse, Tina. Remember it when sadtosee (Sadducees) people try to hoodwink you with holier than God attitude.

1 Corinthians 9:14 - In the same way, the Lord has commanded that those who preach the gospel should receive their living from the gospel.

As for the profit, it is needed to ensure continuity, God knows we are living in this age and time, He is not blind.
If profit is for the entire organization as a whole, I'm okay with that. A lot of people don't know that Hillsong is not just concert ministry, they have Hillsong College.

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Some hypocrites with pharisaical spirit will tell you worldliness is how things look, the loud sounds (lol, some quoted Hillsong) or how you look, you dress, your thick makeup (lol), hair style.

That is not what the Bible says.


1 John 2: (ESV) - 15 Do not love the world or the things in the world. If anyone loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him. 16 For all that is in the world—the desires of the flesh and the desires of the eyes and pride of life c—is not from the Father but is from the world. 17 And the world is passing away along with its desires, but whoever does the will of God abides forever.

What is worldly is derived from 3 things

1. Lust of the Flesh (Acts that's displeasing to God, like Sexual lust, Rage, Jealousy, etc)
2. Lust of the Eye (to covet something to the point, you elevate it above God, KK's case for example)
3. Pride of Life (Arrogant Boasting, etc)

And do you want God's diagnosis, why people love the world? It is not what you think or what most people think it is.

Here is the answer, (ESV) translation in verse 15 have it quite accurate:

If anyone loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him.

It means that, the reason why they love the world is because they don't understand or have the revelation of the Father's Love in their Life. If they understand how much the Father loves them, the power of Jesus's Grace can come in to change their life.

It's not because they don't love the Father as some translation have it.

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When you mention coexist............., help me to understand what you mean.

If you're saying both covenants co-exists because the OT Law is to point unbelievers to Christ. That's is never in dispute. I think the (entire world) body of Christ agrees to this.
If you're saying both covenants co-exists because it is needed for believers to uphold it's moral law, else we subject ourselves to sin then there will be a problem*.

*Problem: We got our Salvation because we uphold the Law. Again pointing to works.

Protip: I not suggesting we go living licentious lifestyle.

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ok, brb.

No need to apologize la Bro, somehow with the rest and you, I have no problem discussing this.

The Old Testament was not written just for Jews. In the lineage of Jesus Himself, there is mention of a Hittite (Urriah), a Moabite (Ruth), and a woman of Jericho (Rahab).
The promise to Abraham was that he would be a blessing to all people--not just his own descendants through Isaac.

Jesus came to fulfilled it, not renew. Do you know why? Because if any of us could fulfilled it......you get the idea? He didn't have to come.

Hebrews 8:13 does not agree that the OT Coexist completing the New Covenant.

The Old Testament is to help to understand we cannot follow and obey God completely neither make us holy nor righteous. It wasn't designed for that purpose.

The problem with the OT, it causes Man to focus on Himself (everything about self, non of God) - I got it because I obeyed. whereas the New Covenant causes Man to focus on Christ because I got it because He obeyed (Romans 5:19). So you can't have both as in completeness because it contradicts each other in justification.

You feel condemnation?