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kartana
post Sep 11 2019, 09:58 AM

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what nonsense is this, this is simply segretion of population by religion!! how does this contribute to a more inclusive, diversified society?

what if Islamic City, Christian Town, Buddhist/ Indian Taman?.... beware what this might lead to if you start creating walls among societies...

How can the current PH government allow this to happen? Dr M... u seeing this?


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post Sep 11 2019, 10:00 AM

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QUOTE(kartana @ Sep 11 2019, 09:58 AM)
what nonsense is this, this is simply segretion of  population by religion!! how does this contribute to a more inclusive, diversified society?

what if Islamic City, Christian Town, Buddhist/ Indian Taman?.... beware what this might lead to if you start creating walls among societies...

How can the current PH government allow this  to happen? Dr M... u seeing this?
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Exactly my thoughts. No wonder they protest against the signing of ICERD
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post Sep 11 2019, 10:08 AM

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I think this Islamic City will have their own niche consumers. Would sell very well to those who would like an Islamic environment. Consumers can be Muslims or non-Muslims.

It is like vernacular schools where any races can enter and study.
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post Sep 11 2019, 10:31 AM

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QUOTE(Xaser_3 @ Sep 11 2019, 09:27 AM)
Not unless you are a muslim. Don't think Non's are welcomed to live there as it is clearly stated "Islamic City"
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There are two non-muslim buyers of Raudah City. No restriction by developer on buyer’s faith as their main objective is to sell houses.

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post Sep 11 2019, 10:35 AM

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QUOTE(kartana @ Sep 11 2019, 09:58 AM)
what nonsense is this, this is simply segretion of  population by religion!! how does this contribute to a more inclusive, diversified society?

what if Islamic City, Christian Town, Buddhist/ Indian Taman?.... beware what this might lead to if you start creating walls among societies...

How can the current PH government allow this  to happen? Dr M... u seeing this?
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The core product is a home. The home itself is a tangible, soulless product.

The marketing message is targeting a middle-high income muslim upgrader as the home prices there are all above RM1mil.

Also, no restriction by developer if you are non-muslim and wish to buy there.
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post Sep 11 2019, 10:39 AM

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QUOTE(azmanadnan @ Sep 10 2019, 08:36 PM)
yupe but many ppl including a few here actually thought its cyberjaya due to the developer themselves who ride on cyberjaya name
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The development is one road away from Cyberjaya, so actually not that wrong to ride on Cyberjaya’s name to market the properties The residents there will eventually be driving/riding/walking into Cyberjaya very often for various reasons.

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post Sep 11 2019, 11:11 AM

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QUOTE(Xaser_3 @ Sep 11 2019, 09:27 AM)
Not unless you are a muslim. Don't think Non's are welcomed to live there as it is clearly stated "Islamic City"
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Read this:
https://www.facebook.com/288614184616730/po...16738688470934/

And recently got ads also they welcome non muslim to buy a house there...


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post Sep 11 2019, 12:47 PM

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QUOTE(mingyew @ Sep 11 2019, 11:11 AM)
Read this:
https://www.facebook.com/288614184616730/po...16738688470934/

And recently got ads also they welcome non muslim to buy a house there...
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Thanks for highlighting this. Recent ads could also means sales are poor that the developers are forced to open up the units to buyers of different faiths. Statistically, would one consider 2 buyers of different faith out of the many a success?
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post Sep 11 2019, 02:10 PM

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no matter how.. no non would like to buy in facts.
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post Sep 11 2019, 02:50 PM

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QUOTE(mingyew @ Sep 11 2019, 02:10 PM)
no matter how.. no non would like to buy in facts.
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My thoughts are exactly similar. Just imagine the sub sale value when trying to dispose of it in future.
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post Sep 11 2019, 04:27 PM

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QUOTE(mingyew @ Sep 11 2019, 02:10 PM)
no matter how.. no non would like to buy in facts.
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U really read my mind 😁

No way I would stay place like that....

No muhhibah at all.. with restrictions... Hell No ..
I don't support such thing....
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post Sep 11 2019, 06:16 PM

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Unsure of the concept. I don't understand why does the developer want to limit themselves in the first place. Money is money regardless of who spends it.

I'm a muslim, not the most learned of course, but knowledgeable enough to know that to stop at the red light is Islamic, to love the neighbour (regardless of creed/race/etc) is Islamic, to keep clean is Islamic - all without the tag. You get the drift.

I have this impression that some people are more concerned with the tags and labels, and worry less about the spirit and principles behind the understanding of the said labels.
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QUOTE(Latacc @ Sep 11 2019, 06:16 PM)
Unsure of the concept.  I don't understand why does the developer want to limit themselves in the first place.  Money is money regardless of who spends it.

I'm a muslim, not the most learned of course, but knowledgeable enough to know that to stop at the red light is Islamic, to love the neighbour (regardless of creed/race/etc) is Islamic, to keep clean is Islamic - all without the tag.  You get the drift.

I have this impression that some people are more concerned with the tags and labels, and worry less about the spirit and principles behind the understanding of the said labels.
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Well said there my friend. People are concerned with the tags and labels created by those out to make money and profit from these groups.
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post Sep 13 2019, 09:52 AM

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Super expemssive. Upper class neighbour hood.
OK

Islam is architecture Is nice?
a peaceful religion do not judge by the Muslims.
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post Sep 13 2019, 12:42 PM

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https://www.malaymail.com/news/malaysia/201...inister/1789582
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post Sep 14 2019, 08:56 AM

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QUOTE(DinKnight @ Sep 11 2019, 10:39 AM)
The development is one road away from Cyberjaya, so actually not that wrong to ride on Cyberjaya’s name to market the properties  The residents there will eventually be driving/riding/walking into Cyberjaya very often for various reasons.
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Is it not cyberjaya. Unless you are ashamed of your own location. Cyberjaya is 1 road away from puchong but none of cyberian will say they r from puchong what does that tell you.
The exact location is selangor science park 2

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post Sep 14 2019, 08:58 AM

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QUOTE(kartana @ Sep 11 2019, 09:58 AM)
what nonsense is this, this is simply segretion of  population by religion!! how does this contribute to a more inclusive, diversified society?

what if Islamic City, Christian Town, Buddhist/ Indian Taman?.... beware what this might lead to if you start creating walls among societies...

How can the current PH government allow this  to happen? Dr M... u seeing this?
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Not a good precedent. But then there is no law to prevent segregation, so I think developers are allowed to do that in the future
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post Sep 14 2019, 09:54 AM

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QUOTE(azmanadnan @ Sep 14 2019, 08:58 AM)
Not a good precedent.  But then there is no law to prevent segregation,  so I think developers are allowed to do that in the future
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i doubt so, try to create a Buddhist / Christian town? I assure you the "NGOs & Politicians" will come out and create chaos. 100%

I am so dissapointed with Malaysian politician, in order to gain power they use race/religion to get vote, to eliminate others, when everyone else in the world is promoting peace and condemn racist, Malaysia is doing opposite.

Can't we live in peace among each other?
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post Sep 14 2019, 10:30 AM

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QUOTE(DinKnight @ Sep 11 2019, 10:31 AM)
There are two non-muslim buyers of Raudah City. No restriction by developer on buyer’s faith as their main objective is to sell houses.
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Huh seriously..
Have 2 non Muslim buy??
Wow just wow 😮😲
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post Sep 14 2019, 06:09 PM

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QUOTE(azmanadnan @ Sep 14 2019, 08:56 AM)
Is it not cyberjaya. Unless you are ashamed of your own location.  Cyberjaya is 1 road away from puchong but none of cyberian will say they r from puchong what does that tell you.
The exact location is selangor science park 2
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Not disputing the fact that it is not in Cyberjaya.

What I am saying that there is no harm for the developer to market its proximity to Cyberjaya as a selling point, due to the more well known name. Developer needs to attract buyers, so need to leverage on CJ's name.

It's like many developers marketing their projects in KL North instead of the actual area the project is in (Selayang).

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