Quite a lot of people PM me about is that worth to upgrade their phone from Lumia 920 to Lumia 830

Or

Should i go for 830 instead of 930? (because there is quite huge price gap in between two flagship devices)


So now i would like to make a quite comparison about both of the devices on

1. Overall Hardware quality
2. few photo comparison

This review will update from time to time as i just get this devices around 2 days

Sorry for broken manglish and i am not really good at writing proper essay (most probably will provide TL;DR point form with a lot of photo)




Updating....

This post has been edited by fantasy1989: Jan 25 2015, 10:15 PM

Introduction:

-Skip this shit Let's go for specs comparison


Specs compare


Summary

Pros of Lumia 920
-Much bigger internal storage (32gb)
-Dual LED flash light
-Much "better" secondary camera


Cons of Lumia 920
-Smaller screen size ( i think it depend on user preference)
-Heavier(185g)
-Dual core processor with much older GPU
-No expandable sotrage


Pros of Lumia 830
-Much more future proof product (better processor and GPU)
-Expandable storage (microSD up to 128gb)
-10MP with 1/3.4" sensor pureview technology
-Newer corning gorilla glass
-Lighter
-Higher capacity of battery and it's removable

Cons of Lumia 830
-Poor secondary camera ..yes ..kinda poor
-Still 1GB ram
-16gb internal storage
-Slippery phone

taken from GsmArena

This post has been edited by fantasy1989: Mar 6 2015, 09:09 AM

First impression (What's new?)

Hardware/Design
-Lumia 830 come with very smooth and high quality removable casing. Other than that,it's not fingerprint magnet like lumia 920 casing
-Newer phone design (lumia icon) and much lighter compared to Lumia 920
-MicroUSB port move from bottom to top (beside 3.5mm audio jack)
-Soft volume,power and camera button (which i dont really like it ..personally i prefer lumia 920 button)
-Brighter screen and no screen burn issue(overwarm display color temperature at lumia 920)
-Silky sleek touch feeling on the screen and phone



Software
-Lumia 830 come with most recent update which is Lumia Demin. While Lumia 920 currently still on Lumia Cyan(my device come together with developer preview)
-Lumia 830 come with much complete and updated camera firmware/algorithm (like live image)
-Lumia 830 pre-bundled more features than lumia 920 ..like motion data,glance screen,brightness profile etc


Feel free to let me know more info/ cool feature


screen burn issue on lumia 920 [captured in darker environment]

Added/Misc:


This post has been edited by fantasy1989: Jan 29 2015, 07:38 PM

Photo comparison

Lumia 920 - F/2.0 Aperture , 8.7MP , 1/3.2" , 26mm
Lumia 830 - F/2.2 Aperture , 10MP , 1/3.4" ,

Both photo are taken with Microsoft camera apps, all auto exclude iso fixed at 400 and flash off

Lumia 920 Original


Lumia 830 Original


Lumia 830 Autofix





Close shot
Lumia 920 Original

Lumia 830 Original


Thanks Thor!



Selfie? ...errr.....both also ...errr........maybe both of them just enough for video conferencing


Other photos that taken by Lumia 830 [Resized]




This post has been edited by fantasy1989: Jan 30 2015, 02:48 PM

This post has been edited by fantasy1989: Jan 30 2015, 02:48 PM

Conclusion[25/1/2015]

Q: Worth to upgrade to Lumia 830 (Affordable flagship model) from Lumia 920?

A: Yes and No. Because it's not really a huge upgrade from lumia 920. You still getting 1GB of ram with 16GB of internal storage (lumia 920 come with 32gb internal storage). It's just a replacement model of lumia 920 with much more updated processor and design. I will consider 930 instead of 830 if i am upgrading from 920.


Q: Worth to jump ship/change to Lumia 830?
A: Yes. With less than 1.2k, you can get a decent specs of windows phone with above average of camera. Other than that, windows phone store apps should more than enough to serve you


Q: Should i purchase Lumia 830 instead of Lumia 920

A: Yes. You should. because Lumia 830 provide much more flexibility to that devices(like expandable storage,removable battery etc) and camera performance in between 2 devices are quite on pair

This post has been edited by fantasy1989: Jan 27 2015, 10:31 AM

in be4 no Clash of Clans
in be4 no apps

Correction on the spec you listed, 830 uses micro sim not nano sim. Anyways congratulations on the new 830. I find it a better upgrade from my 820. One of the plus point is longer battery usage and less heat. It is also thinner and lighter.

not nano sim?

even official website also stated nano http://www.microsoft.com/en-my/mobile/phon...specifications/

i havent try to slot in any sim card yet ...still using 920 as primary phone


yes ..less heat produced compared to my 920 as well ..i tried both side by side navigation for half an hour

830 lesser heat

This post has been edited by fantasy1989: Jan 26 2015, 10:34 AM

Does Lumia 830 has problem with late or delayed incoming Whatsapp and Viber notification?
had it in my previous lumia phone.

nope ...even my lumia 920 (after lumia black) ..no issue on delay incoming whatsapp and viber notification

i believed it's something to do with the background task activity

This post has been edited by fantasy1989: Jan 27 2015, 01:25 PM

u sure not use nano sim? gsmarena and microsoft website also stated nano sim ....

830 is nano-sim. Not micro.

Nano sim is like iphone. Certainly 830 is not nano sim. I own 830.

hmmm..tonight i try to cucuk my micro sim n see

now i still testing on standby time on my 830

From http://www.microsoft.com/en-my/mobile/phon...specifications/

Connectivity basics
.SIM card type: Nano SIM .
.AV connectors: 3.5 mm audio connector .
.Charging connectors: Micro-USB .
.System connectors: Micro-USB-B .
.USB: USB 2.0 .
.Bluetooth: Bluetooth 4.0 .

Even some Samsung phones use nano sim.
Nothing special about iphone....

Its nano.
And a warning - if the Telco ask you to cut the micro-sim to nano size - DONT Do it - you won't be able to take it out later.
Happened to my father's 830.

Always get an actual NANO sim from the Telco.

wow ..thanks for your info bro

wth...this one say nano, that one say micro....but microsoft website already stated nano, cannot be micro, right?

I suppose the Telco that ask you to cut the micro-sim to nano size is U-Mobile ?

Sorry forgot to mention - it was Maxis but not the official outlet - my dad probably went to a reseller - hence, the nonsense on cutting the sim, etc.

I went to the official Maxis Telco outlet (eCurve) who issued me a brand new nano LTE sim - FOC.

What about night shot?

Was thinking to upgrade my L920 to L930, but the L930 night shot not as beautiful as L920. Dunno why

That is because of this....

Lumia 930
Main camera: 20.0 MP
Main camera focus type: Auto focus with two-stage capture key
Camera digital zoom: 2 x
Camera optics: 6-lens optics
Stabilization: Optical image stabilization
oversampling: Yes
Sensor size: 1/2.5 inch
Main camera f-number/aperture: f/2.4
Camera focal length: 26 mm
Flash type: Dual LED flash
Camera features: Backside-illuminated image sensor, High resolution zoom 2x, PureView
Camera minimum focus range: 10 cm

VS

Lumia 920
Main camera: 8.7 MP
Main camera focus type: Auto focus with two-stage capture key
Camera digital zoom: 4 x
Camera optics: ZEISS optics
Stabilization: Optical image stabilization
Sensor size: 1/3.2 inch
Main camera f-number/aperture: f/2.0
Camera focal length: 26 mm
Flash type: Short pulse high power dual LED
Camera features: Auto and manual exposure, Auto and manual white balance, Automatic motion blur reduction, Automatic photo upload to web services, Backside-illuminated image sensor, Center weighted auto exposure, Exposure compensation, Face recognition, Full resolution photo and video upload, Full screen viewfinder, Geotagging, Landscape orientation, PureView, Still image editor, Touch focus, True 16:9 sensor
Camera minimum focus range: 8 cm

I upgraded from Lumia 920 to Lumia 1520 so I know.

This post has been edited by IccyAsd: Jan 28 2015, 07:53 PM

So far the only Telco (U-Mobile) I go even its at the service center they would asked us if we would like to Cut the sim or pay RM10 for nano sim, other Telco don't encourage cutting sim.

selected device are doing promo at storekini

i would say this is quite reasonable deal



This post has been edited by fantasy1989: Jan 28 2015, 08:09 PM


Attached thumbnail(s)

ya lo ..i pun pening

havent got chance to try it ...no good object to test it out

maybe this weekend will try my luck to go to some place and try it out

This post has been edited by fantasy1989: Jan 28 2015, 08:24 PM

lill out of topic here..

but can I request a new micro sim LTE for my 920? Now can't LTE because is a cut form SIM.

not sure about the rest, but lumia 735 art lazada selling way cheaper...
http://www.lazada.com.my/nokia-lumia-735-8...een-744574.html

i wondering is ori set or not .
yesterday almost buy it already due to extra 5% discount.

maciam hnggh

if only they got 535

530 and 535 can say is 1 of the most selling device

yes ..just go and tell them ..best is go to HQ or main store

i believe it's original avaxx set

avaxx set always cheaper than zitron 1

doesn't that avaxx / zitron set same local original warranty? got price diff? if got sure ppl and reseller take the cheaper set what.


by the way, got comparison between 830 and 735 ? hehe, i don want invest so much, targeting 735 only.

both is local ..just carried by different company

errr..i am not sure now still got zitron avaxx stuff or not

last time nokia era really have this ..but most of the official nokia store will sell zitron set

that's why..CNY deal looks good...rm429 with freebies


/on topic

lumia 830 speaker..how would you rate it?

Sorry guys. I was wrong, it is a nano sim. I am just confused with my other phones. Too many handphones. Just check by opening the phone and it is nano.

Sorry guys. I was wrong, it is a nano sim. I am just confused with my other phones. Too many handphones. Just check by opening the phone and it is nano.

Damn two posts. Sorry again.

The 735 is amazingly a good hp for the price. I compared my L920 with my sister's L735, and I like the solid design more than mine. It has the best front camera among all the Lumia lineup.
But the only downside of L735 is that it is not pureview. So some of the best features for Lumia Camera is not available.

tonight i try

added standby battery life

one thing that i observed on microsoft camera apps

last time microsoft camera apps on lumia 920 come with spot focus
*which means if u touch some place ..it will adjust setting based on that point

but i can't get this feature in lumia 830 microsoft camera apps (830 always use wide focus)


for example

Lumia 920 (Microsoft Apps + all auto(include iso) + spot focus(touch on bright))


WP_20150129_010 by Fantasy1989@Lowyat.net, on Flickr


Lumia 830 (Microsoft apps + all auto(include iso) + wide focus)

WP_20150129_008 by Fantasy1989@Lowyat.net, on Flickr



did i missed some setting? i didnt recall that L920 need to change setting in order to do spot focus


both works fine on Lumia camera apps

This post has been edited by fantasy1989: Jan 29 2015, 11:34 PM

Oh my....I guess i'll stick with my old 920 a little longer then.

maybe microsoft they tried to do stock camera apps for "auto" and dummy user

lumia camera apps is for PROOOO

830

920

so TS..

right now you carry both 830 and 920??which one is with you primary sim in it?

still 920

havent go cut sim yet

btw ..just found out spot focus on lumia 830


go to photo setting > disable tap to take photo ..then u will have spot focus on lumia 830

but lumia 920 u enabled tap to take photo = spot focus + auto take

lumia 830 = spot focus need to manually touch shutter button to capture

parking satu kali. ill read later

Denim update (with new Lumia Camera + rich capture) out - anybody updated?

updated

830 vs legendary 1020

will upgrade my 830 to windows 10 ..stay tune for more update

You forgot the biggest con of Lumia 830:

DAMN SLIPPERY PHONE..!!

I bought it the first week it came out. Since then the phone kept slipping out of my hand, and I had not been able to find a casing for this phone to add more grip. I thought, at this rate sooner or later this phone is gonna break.

True enough this morning it came flying out of my hand and smacked hard screen down against the marble floor. KOYAKKKKKK....

But I love this phone. Good proc, hi res screen with damn good colours, perfect size, 16GB internal storage with MicroSD card slot. Metal chassis & pretty damn durable to take so many drops without a hitch until this morning's smackdown disaster.

I want to buy another Lumia, but at the moment there is none better specced for the price than the 830.

The other con is, the battery doesn't last a day. It gets pretty hot too when gaming. And finding accessories like casing & screen protector for this phone is a real bltch.

This post has been edited by ZZR-Pilot: Mar 5 2015, 11:30 AM

just no

though if the 830 is not your primary phone then yes please

casing and screen protector can go for third party ..LYN garage sales and lelong got

http://list.lelong.com.my/Auc/List/List.as...d=&PriceUBound=

yes ..i kinda agree to you that it's very slippery phone compared to my lumia 920

atleast 920 is bulky which we can hold it properly


yup..upgraded and roll back to windows phone 8.1

still in early build ..got a lot of annoying bug(even it's not major)

well..it's not my primary phone ...now everyday just take it out to take photo je

rocking it on my 630.. been around 2 weeks now using the Win10TP

Win10 TP is good enough for showing off to friend but not stable enough for me


btw did rolling back to 8.1 factory reset the phone?

How dose 830's camera perform if compared to its android or fruit conterpart?

http://www.gsmarena.com/nokia_lumia_830-review-1168p8.php

have a look on it

Chart is good but I would like to know real life application.

This post has been edited by SouzaDE: Mar 30 2015, 09:52 AM

Lumia 830 for RM799 only at Low Yat. I saw it on The Star dated 27th July 2015.

good deal

fantasy1989 u got ur hands on lumia 830 already?

how was it? satisfied?

yup..overall quite satisfied ..but just seems like not major upgrade from lumia 920

just hope that new flagship lumia phone can give me more

which lumia will u want to get ur hands on next?

either upcoming cityman or talkman

whichever that come with better camera


http://wmpoweruser.com/microsoft-cityman-a...rs-gets-leaked/

This post has been edited by fantasy1989: Aug 28 2015, 11:11 PM

price range rasa rasa berapa?

flagship should be atleast 1.9k or above

i just bought a lumia 830 online.. there is no avaxx sticker/seal on the phone, charger, and box.. not even a sirim sticker in the phone, only have at the box.. so i suspect its a ap phone..

so i check the imei: the imei on the box, back of the phone and the #*06#, all 3 is identical.. i also check the warranty status in microsoft malaysia website using this imei, and it stated its under warranty..

Any idea this phone is ap or ori? does any of ur 830 have the same prob with mine?



This post has been edited by ry8128: Nov 7 2015, 02:10 PM

Hi I also just bought Lumia 930, AFAIK Avaxx and Zitron no more selling Lumia 930 stock ad, the stock I bought is distributed by ECS Aster Sdn Bhd, it is still original Malaysia set but different distributor only, i found out this at the SIRIM website as Avaxx and Zitron licence ad expired, now only ECS Aster still valid, not sure whether ur 830 is same with me or not, u can check below printscreen



This post has been edited by reddevil87: Nov 7 2015, 05:27 PM

Yup, mine is under Ecs too.. The screenshot that u give is the correct model for lumia 830, so I guess mine is ori set..

Thanks a lot for ur info.. Really useful, and I appreciate it..

Now oni I know zitron and avaxx no more distributing Nokia phones, lol..

Hi u r welcome, actually ECS is the distributor of Microsoft product before Microsoft acquired Nokia mobile division, how is ur experience with lumia 830?

Not yet use, still hunting for cover and tempered glass, lol..

get from lelong

Ori 830 Now rm870, worth to buy?