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aaron1717
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Sep 8 2017, 10:06 AM
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QUOTE(corleone74 @ Sep 8 2017, 09:25 AM) Sorry it's not a joke. I have been studying the rate of urbanisation for many years. It really takes 10 years for fringe of cities to move 3 km. It takes 3-4 years to build the houses, then another 3-4 years for people to really move in (if you stay in a row of house with only a few lights on at night, it's under populated). then another 3-4 years for all the basic smaller businesses to move in. a house in smeenyih should only be 400k (basic double storey intermediate). do the market study. erm... hillpark puncak alam currently having around 50-60% occupancy rate after 1 year plus of VP... will consider low occupany for a ulu area for you? the township beside by glomac... highly populated despite being at outskirt location too and the township still fairly new...
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TSsamkps
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Sep 8 2017, 10:16 AM
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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Sep 8 2017, 10:02 AM) northen part like alam impian, setia alam, bandar seri coalfield, elmina selling freehold DSL at 600k-700k plus for 20x70 also.... if look at all the outskirt area.... i think only EM is consider the premium one for a normal DSL... whereas SEH pricing is comparable to those at northern outskirt too.... whereas leasehold at northern side were around 10-20% cheaper than the freehold ones only... lol Lol... It depends on who is doing market study... someone can go to a property website, extract a few advertisements and claim the DSL price in Hillpark Shah Alam is less than 500k and Seri Coafield less than 400k after doing PROPER market study http://www.mudah.my/Double+Storey+Pine+1+B...am-52389676.htmhttp://www.mudah.my/Double+Storey+Pine+1+B...am-52389676.htmhttp://www.mudah.my/2Sty+Bandar+Seri+Coalf...d+-56524636.htmhttp://www.mudah.my/2+Storey+Hibiscus+Band...oh-47083080.htmhttp://www.mudah.my/Desa+Coalfields+Extend...se-55396981.htm
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corleone74
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Sep 8 2017, 10:20 AM
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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Sep 8 2017, 10:02 AM) northen part like alam impian, setia alam, bandar seri coalfield, elmina selling freehold DSL at 600k-700k plus for 20x70 also.... if look at all the outskirt area.... i think only EM is consider the premium one for a normal DSL... whereas SEH pricing is comparable to those at northern outskirt too.... whereas leasehold at northern side were around 10-20% cheaper than the freehold ones only... lol im' not saying it's bad to buy these outskirt area. just be aware of the market in the area, it's under developed and it's not in KL.  to me, all these eco eco G&G is just genius of marketing, to be able to sell a kampung house at such a premium. to make money from it, is difficult. so not a good investment for me. for ownstay, "whatever rocks your boat" etc.
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corleone74
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Sep 8 2017, 10:21 AM
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QUOTE(samkps @ Sep 8 2017, 10:16 AM) Lol... It depends on who is doing market study... someone can go to a property website, extract a few advertisements and claim the DSL price in Hillpark Shah Alam is less than 500k and Seri Coafield less than 400k after doing PROPER market study what you wrote above is correct. any price that is premium is the part these developers who are great with marketing earns your money. remember, t all those doing PROPER MARKET STUDY (eg no 1 king of market study the gwailou Dr D. G.) are all BEING PAID BY DEVELOPERS. so best is, do your own study if possible. i never trust all these marketing expert. This post has been edited by corleone74: Sep 8 2017, 10:25 AM
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aaron1717
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Sep 8 2017, 10:24 AM
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QUOTE(corleone74 @ Sep 8 2017, 10:20 AM) im' not saying it's bad to buy these outskirt area. just be aware of the market in the area, it's under developed and it's not in KL.  to me, all these eco eco G&G is just genius of marketing, to be able to sell a kampung house at such a premium. to make money from it, is difficult. so not a good investment for me. for ownstay, "whatever rocks your boat" etc. haha... i know what you meant... i think those who bought for it for stay will know its not like KL... haha... but u say u did market study which triggered my interest to reply... so i shared some real life observation for you... haha.... the mountain parts of nortern regions is also growing very fast with alot of massive developments... except maybe like those ulu yam areas u mentioned where no developer give a damn too... ecoworld going to launch their business park at the nortern region too... around RM1.2m for one double storey light industry factory.... haha...
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TSsamkps
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Sep 8 2017, 10:26 AM
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QUOTE(corleone74 @ Sep 8 2017, 10:21 AM) but all those doing PROPER MARKET STUDY (eg no 1 king of market study the gwailou Dr D. G.) are all BEING PAID BY DEVELOPERS. so best is, do your own study if possible. i never trust all these marketing expert. I think it must be some reasons some property can sell high but some property only sell lower price, even within the same area. This depends of a lot of factors should be considered bah..
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corleone74
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Sep 8 2017, 10:28 AM
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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Sep 8 2017, 10:24 AM) haha... i know what you meant... i think those who bought for it for stay will know its not like KL... haha... but u say u did market study which triggered my interest to reply... so i shared some real life observation for you... haha.... the mountain parts of nortern regions is also growing very fast with alot of massive developments... except maybe like those ulu yam areas u mentioned where no developer give a damn too... ecoworld going to launch their business park at the nortern region too... around RM1.2m for one double storey light industry factory.... haha... yes, sir! i always do market study of the surrounding area to know the base price. btw you can now keep track of city fringe area like edge of cheras... visit now and then 5, 10 year from now, take pic if you can. you will see what i mean. cities grow , about 3 km in 10 years. haha. enjoy your house(s), sir!
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d0j0b
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Sep 8 2017, 10:29 AM
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Donno whether SP Setia will launch Mobike services in SEH+SEH2? Why lar only launch in Setia Alam, Shah Alam http://www.theedgemarkets.com/article/smar...tners-s-p-setia
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TSsamkps
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Sep 8 2017, 10:29 AM
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QUOTE(corleone74 @ Sep 8 2017, 10:21 AM) what you wrote above is correct. any price that is premium is the part these developers who are great with marketing earns your money. remember, t all those doing PROPER MARKET STUDY (eg no 1 king of market study the gwailou Dr D. G.) are all BEING PAID BY DEVELOPERS. so best is, do your own study if possible. i never trust all these marketing expert. Putting the marketing aside, I find no clue how to compare the landscape and security feature in EcoMajestic with those from Rinching/Bandar Tasik Kesuma for example..
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aaron1717
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Sep 8 2017, 10:29 AM
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QUOTE(corleone74 @ Sep 8 2017, 10:28 AM) yes, sir! i always do market study of the surrounding area to know the base price. btw you can now keep track of city fringe area like edge of cheras... visit now and then 5, 10 year from now, take pic if you can. you will see what i mean. cities grow , about 3 km in 10 years. haha. enjoy your house(s), sir! duly noted sir.... haha.... i think its quite applicable for kajang... as for semenyih... i think at current state... they are growing quite fast... not sure will stagnant or not la... haha
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corleone74
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Sep 8 2017, 10:30 AM
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QUOTE(samkps @ Sep 8 2017, 10:26 AM) I think it must be some reasons some property can sell high but some property only sell lower price, even within the same area. This depends of a lot of factors should be considered bah.. well, i kind of agree. but remember that you're paying 100-200k more for all those G&G stuffs. so for eg SEH is considered luxury housing in semenyih. so there can be good point from this. your neighbours will be in the more "wealthier" group. anyway, have u moved in your house?
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corleone74
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Sep 8 2017, 10:32 AM
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QUOTE(samkps @ Sep 8 2017, 10:29 AM) Putting the marketing aside, I find no clue how to compare the landscape and security feature in EcoMajestic with those from Rinching/Bandar Tasik Kesuma for example..  EM vs SEH i believe, ecoworld project their design of the house has a nostalgic and evergreen design. personally i felt EM design wise is nicer than SEH but it is even FURHTER AWAY from semenyih town... essentially both project the scheme is more or less the same. This post has been edited by corleone74: Sep 8 2017, 10:33 AM
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TSsamkps
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Sep 8 2017, 10:33 AM
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QUOTE(corleone74 @ Sep 8 2017, 10:30 AM) well, i kind of agree. but remember that you're paying 100-200k more for all those G&G stuffs. so for eg SEH is considered luxury housing in semenyih. so there can be good point from this. your neighbours will be in the more "wealthier" group. anyway, have u moved in your house? Infra not counted? Club house not counted?
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TSsamkps
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Sep 8 2017, 10:40 AM
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QUOTE(corleone74 @ Sep 8 2017, 10:32 AM) EM vs SEH i believe, ecoworld project their design of the house has a nostalgic and evergreen design. personally i felt EM design wise is nicer than SEH but it is even FURHTER AWAY from semenyih town... essentially both project the scheme is more or less the same. It depends on personal preference, EM generally 20% more expensive than SEH, due to several advantages they have, for example the true strata title GnG.
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aaron1717
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Sep 8 2017, 10:43 AM
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QUOTE(samkps @ Sep 8 2017, 10:40 AM) It depends on personal preference, EM generally 20% more expensive than SEH, due to several advantages they have, for example the true strata title GnG. actually to apply for strata title G&G... do they need to pay a hefty premium to the authorities...? otherwise... other than for the clubhouse and landscaping... no point they charge more expensive and at the same time... their subsequent maintenance fees also higher... haha...
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corleone74
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Sep 8 2017, 10:59 AM
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QUOTE(samkps @ Sep 8 2017, 10:33 AM) Infra not counted? Club house not counted?  yes la of course counted. swimming pool, multipurpose court semua. which is paid by the owners. btw spsetia the quality ah... not fantastic, OK. take note.
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corleone74
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Sep 8 2017, 11:02 AM
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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Sep 8 2017, 10:43 AM) actually to apply for strata title G&G... do they need to pay a hefty premium to the authorities...? otherwise... other than for the clubhouse and landscaping... no point they charge more expensive and at the same time... their subsequent maintenance fees also higher... haha... got pro and con. strata titled you can tightly enforce (JMB / MC). fenced guard is not true GNG so technically those common area the town council can "take back". Moving forward , many years from now, that could become an issue. however, strata titled got it's own cons as well. I think the cukai tanah will be quite high?
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TSsamkps
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Sep 8 2017, 11:04 AM
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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Sep 8 2017, 10:43 AM) actually to apply for strata title G&G... do they need to pay a hefty premium to the authorities...? otherwise... other than for the clubhouse and landscaping... no point they charge more expensive and at the same time... their subsequent maintenance fees also higher... haha... Maintenance fees will be higher for sure, but more secure because protected by law. FnG only based on the strength of RA to collect the maintenance fee, unless there is a DMC. This post has been edited by samkps: Sep 8 2017, 11:04 AM
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aaron1717
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Sep 8 2017, 11:06 AM
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QUOTE(corleone74 @ Sep 8 2017, 11:02 AM) got pro and con. strata titled you can tightly enforce (JMB / MC). fenced guard is not true GNG so technically those common area the town council can "take back". Moving forward , many years from now, that could become an issue. however, strata titled got it's own cons as well. I think the cukai tanah will be quite high? the inflexibility of renovating the exterior of your house... higher maintenance fees... well i agreed on the uniformity and the law enforcement part... its just the price difference between a strata title landed and f&g landed.... sometimes the difference abit high and i not sure why.... subsequently strata titel have to pay more for maintenance fees also....
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TSsamkps
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Sep 8 2017, 11:07 AM
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QUOTE(corleone74 @ Sep 8 2017, 10:59 AM) yes la of course counted. swimming pool, multipurpose court semua. which is paid by the owners. btw spsetia the quality ah... not fantastic, OK. take note. That's part of the factors. Not only pay for the house alone nia, but something can enjoy to improve the lifestyle. SP Setia workmanship just average, nothing to shout about, although they won something in the QLassic Award.. http://www.theedgemarkets.com/article/s-p-...xcellence-award
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