the way they wear the uniform, the way they hold the gun, makes me very skeptical if they really is IS/ISIL, i mean, the real Islamic rebel group in syria

dia bajet apa yang some 'airforce officer' story him is all true, when actually they just having fun trolling him

so far only Pakistan dare to take China mbt, & plus jet fighter too

others seems very careful with china product

only stupid arrogant general will go on tanks vs tanks, especially within this archipelagos

war is not a video game, kiddo..war is not about whos penis is bigger & thicker & whos toys is better

if me, i'll be more happy like this (& this is if the battle were in our soil);


General A have Abram platoons, lots of it

General B have a several companies of trooper comprises of gunner & rocketeer (let say RPG29), 1 small team of commandoes that gets behind enemy line who will not just have sniper & spotter but also bringing along laser target designator (hornet waiting for them), several Kornet-E/Bhaktar Shikan mounted G-wagons, a few astross standing by far from battlefield, & Adnans with troops inside as the last sweeper

PT-91M? sorry, they're not interested in this abram-suicidal fiesta..there's other battlefield thats suits them more

like i said befur..only stupid general will fight tanks vs tanks head on

This post has been edited by keown83: Feb 19 2015, 10:18 PM

why we must think situation & environment in our soil will be as same as situation & environment in Iraq..??? for me, we cant take every details in Iraq to compare with what we have here, on our own ground..Iraq is a land vast with plain flat desert, which is a very good advantage to send tanks as a the main assault team..& this is also why Iraq have 5000+ tanks (sadly most of them cant be used plus its a monkey assad babil model of basic T72 tank btw) standing by

while in Afghanistan, abrams are not the main assault team..afghanistan are not like Iraq..too many hills & mountains, too many hidden places, not a good advantage for tanks..same goes to vietnam, also not a good place to let tanks lead any assult

btw, for chenchen war;


Chenchen war sos

u see..its not a battle of tanks vs tanks..yes of cos its about the weakness of T-72, but the most important thing is u must not rely too much on tanks vs tanks..yes PT-92M is inferior to abrams, leopard & other western tanks, but the most important thing is how the tanks suits ur doctrine & ur strategy..

for me, it would be better to choose a tank that is not too heavy, high-mobility & maneuverability, fast, easy maintenance & logistic support, have lower height than other modern mbt (actually T-90 would be better, but T-91M also ok la), & most important thing, can fire any modern shell (DU, KE whatever shit) effectively & accurately, while on static or while moving..other than that, wont mind to compromise here & there la

This post has been edited by keown83: Feb 19 2015, 11:01 PM

that is after u've successfully secured the airspace..things will be very different if the enemy still hold the airspace

for that we have to ask those who knows well bout PT-91M as it use a whole different powerpack even compare to original polish PT-91

tranfer to our shore? US? very very unlikely

whatever in US, stays in US - that will be their sacred motto