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post Feb 14 2015, 02:35 AM

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Reports: Pro-Russian separatist forces storming Debaltsevo city

Initial reports are emerging that pro-Russian separatists have stormed the city of Debaltsevo from the east within the last hour or so. Latest reports say intense street fighting breaking out in suburban area. Casualties already piling up for both sides.
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QUOTE(KYPMbangi @ Feb 14 2015, 02:51 AM)
Last minute strike before the ceasefire
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Donno how much they can take before sunday. There's estimated 7,000 Ukraine gov soldiers & paramilitary units in the city.
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Pro-Russian separatists halt assault on Debaltsevo city, pulls back to defensive positions on outer city limits

Probably just a reconnaissance-in-force, trying to provoke the city's defensive system and probe for any possible weaknesses. However the separatists are already dug in just 2-3 kilometers from the city itself.

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QUOTE(BorneoAlliance @ Feb 14 2015, 11:35 AM)
400 Marines On Airbase Besiged By ISIS In Iraq
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Sooo...western talkshow hosts keep saying IS is is 'under intense pressure' and 'losing', is this what 'under intense pressure' and 'losing' looks like? brows.gif

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US intelligence services estimate IS and other Islamist groups has recruited 20,000 foreign fighters, including westerners

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IS fighters in digital desert camouflage uniforms during the execution of Jordanian pilot Ali Al-Kasasbeh

US intelligence services estimated that Islamic State and other Islamist groups in Syria and Iraq has recruited at least 20,000 foreign fighters, including 3,500 westerners and 150 US citizens. This includes those who have intercepted or failed to actually get into Syria and Iraq. The actual status of the foreign fighters in Syria are currently unknown, it is probably some are already killed in the battles there, but intelligence agencies cannot absolutely confirm their status. It is feared some have falsified their deaths and are using 'clean' identities to return to their home countries for bombings and terror campaigns.

"This is a tremendous estimate" said a US intelligence official, adding "The number of foreign fighters in this conflict is greater than 1980s Afghanistan, Iraq, Yugoslavia and Somalia all put together"

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UK delivers decommissioned Saxon armored vehicles to Ukraine

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Former British military Saxon armoured vehicles has been delivered to Ukraine by a private firm.The Ministry of Defence confirmed these were out-of-service unarmed vehicles and not lethal equipment.The vehicles were transferred under a 2013 deal that pre-dated the current conflict.

A Ukrainian news agency has reported that 20 British Saxon armoured cars have been delivered to Ukraine, with another 55 expected to arrive soon. The MoD could not confirm these figures.

Thousands of people have died in almost a year of fighting in the region.

A MoD spokeswoman said the sale had been organised for some time through the Disposal Services authority, which deals with obsolete military equipment. She said the delivery did not represent an escalation of British involvement in Ukraine.

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The former head of the British Army has condemned a decision to deliver dozens of redundant British military armoured vehicles to the Ukranian government as “nothing short of immoral”.

General Sir Richard Dannatt, who served as Chief of the Defence Staff between 2006 and 2009, said the Saxon armoured vehicles, which the Ukranian military are planning to convert for use in their fight against Russian-backed separatist forces – are “quite useless”.

He told The Telegraph: “I took these out of service by the UK Army in 2005/6 as completely unsuitable for current operations, so I find it incredible that they are being sold/gifted to Ukraine. I am incensed by the thought we are supplying, even via a 3rd party, SAXON APCs to the hapless Ukrainians.
“They are quite useless, semi-armoured lorries that should be nowhere near anyone’s front line."

He said that it was "nothing short of immoral” to present the transfer of the vehicles as a "good news story" for the Ukranians.

Gen Sir Richard added:"My concern is the inadequate nature of these vehicles which I ordered out of British Army front line service when I was Commander in Chief Land Command 2005-2006. They were withdrawn from Iraq and never deployed in southern Afghanistan.

"To suggest that the UK is making a significant gesture of support by supplying vehicles which we took out of service ten years ago, because we deemed them unsafe, seems bizarre at best and downright dangerous at worst."

Hahaha first class facepalm right there. laugh.gif

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QUOTE(madoka @ Feb 14 2015, 08:28 PM)
those Saxon look like WW II relics, wonder why today Rosbiff can't into a much nicer and capable design of armored vehicle. And in contrast, the French, Jerries and Turks know their jobs and had a sound designs for their armored vehicles.
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The Saxon is designed from late 1970s, so not so strange it looks rather dated. Also it was never intended for frontline duties, just rear area armored personnel carrier and counter-insurgency duties. Sorta like a proto-MRAP.

It spent most of its career running COIN duties in Northern Ireland.

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Meet Olga Sergeevna A.K.A "Corsa", NAF supreme commander of Debaltsevo task force

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A mysterious female commander was selected by the Pro-Russian separatist leadership to command the operation to capture Debaltsevo earlier this month. Virtually nothing is known about the commander with the nome de guerre "Corsa", who has been allegedly been identified as Olga Sergeevna. Here she is pictured as inspecting a battery of Grad MLRS launchers outside Debaltsevo.

News Link: Pictured- Female Pro-Russian commander charged with capturing debaltsevo

Wow....never saw that one coming. sweat.gif
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MMEA Enhance National SAR System With International Cospas-Sarsat Programme

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The Malaysian Maritime Enforcement Agency (MMEA) to create another history when receiving banknotes tech assistance systems, namely International Cospas-Sarsat Programme as an effort to enhance national capacity in search and rescue (SAR). Minister in the Prime Minister's Department Datuk Seri Dr Shahidan Kassim said the use of the system will also make MMEA comparable with SAR teams developed countries that have high-tech systems. "These systems use satellites to track the location of the beacon signal and emergency such as Emergency Locator Beacon (ELT), Emergency Position Indicator Radio Beacon (EPIRB) and Personal Locator Beacon (PLB) that are ready to be installed and tested in Jan 30 and is now fully operational. "Through the signals obtained, the emergency signal monitoring will be carried at all times and an emergency signal reception is available in real time with information related, "he said. He was speaking to reporters after the Malaysian Maritime Day celebrations 10th Maritime Academy Sultan Ahmad Shah (AMSASA) here on Saturday.

In the event he also officiated the use of International Cospas-Sarsat Programme witnessed by MMEA director-general Admiral Datuk Mohd Amdan Kurish. Shahidan said the system will be used to detect any emergencies that occur as far as 400 nautical miles from the coast. Earlier in his speech Shahidan said, APMM is receiving two vessels from the Australia later this month in addition to the six new vessels will further enhance maritime surveillance and enforcement capability in the future. "We also received two 'Petir'-class boats from the Canada and nine 'Halilintar'-class boats from the Australians to improve enforcement capabilities in the Straits of Malacca and the Special Security Area East Coast," he said.

For future plans, he said, MMEA is giving consideration to enhance existing assets with additional HH-65 Dauphin helicopters. "The existing Dauphin helicopters can fly three to four hours ... if we buy a little larger that there are 16 seats, it can last six hours. "We need this additional assets immediately, I informed Prime Minister Datuk Seri Najib Tun Razak and he is positive about the proposal to enhance existing assets," he said.
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QUOTE(MrUbikeledek @ Feb 15 2015, 05:28 PM)
Anyone know what kind of helmet is this? I noticed some US soldiers are wearing it? I took this from a TV series. Is this US new combat helmet?

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Doesn't look like it gives a lot of ballistic protection. Is it safe? even the ears are exposed as hell. hmm.gif

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QUOTE(thpace @ Feb 15 2015, 08:30 PM)
Would rather the army save money and get more modern  tanks compared to those soviet era design tanks

Pt91 although  heavily upgraded it still in end an soviet  era design
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Also have to consider tanks that compatible with Malaysian terrain, don't just buy willy-nilly buy modern tanks just bcoz they look cool. Pics of tanks bogged down in palm oil estate won't help very much with public opinion. Plus can be used by certain people for political mileage.

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QUOTE(heavyduty @ Feb 15 2015, 08:38 PM)
Its Supposed to be worn with comms equipment,better than the alternative i guess which is skating helmets
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They're made of what anyway? I don't see it as being made of ballistic Kevlar. I don't get why SF guys prefer wearing these kinds of helmets.
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QUOTE(KYPMbangi @ Feb 15 2015, 08:46 PM)
The idea is more situational awareness, and less weight, compared to normal ballistic helmet
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Cost is ballistic protection. Doesn't look like can even stop shrapnel, especially those ridiculous plastic skateboard helmets Delta Force used to wear. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(yinchet @ Feb 15 2015, 08:55 PM)
That still depend on decision maker whether they wan to cont with T-series.
I think they might put in fibau, esscom and networks with western system into consideration.
Yup weights requirements still pretty much in the books.
The latest t-90 barely pass the weight requirements though.
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Malaysia not premium tank country. Prolly more suited to FIBUA and skirmishes than full-on tank-on-tank orgies. IMHO lighter tanks should also be considered rather than exclusively looking at 50 ton + behemoths that prolly would get stuck the in first mud pit it finds. laugh.gif

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QUOTE(KYPMbangi @ Feb 15 2015, 09:10 PM)
Standard NATO tanks, 55-65 tonnes is normal
East asian (k2, type10) tanks is blardy expensive..

So the requirement is 3 men crew, autoloader, 50 tonnes class (maybe max 55)
Is there a non-russian tanks that fill all this?
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If western tanks, Leclerc almost fits the bill (3-men crew, autoloader), only snag is heavy (62 ton) and expensive as fark ($6M USD).
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QUOTE(yinchet @ Feb 15 2015, 09:12 PM)
I seriously doubt we will see any mbt orgies party with current warfare.
I think we would pretty much play av8 atgm hit and run against enemy mbt. laugh.gif
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If wanna play that style, use Humvee with ATGM is sufficient for the role, no need armored vehicles. Cheaper and more economical to use, also smaller silhouette, can hide better.

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QUOTE(waja2000 @ Feb 15 2015, 09:29 PM)
Norinco MBT-3000 tank only 52 Tons with 3 man crew too.
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Certainly fit the bill, but politically not so expedient.
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QUOTE(thpace @ Feb 15 2015, 10:11 PM)
iinm, it about the tank upgrade program.. UAE think france should pay for the tank upgrade
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I wanna put spoiler & turbo for my Perdana, probably should ask Proton to pay for it. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(trollboy @ Feb 15 2015, 10:21 PM)
Maybe can replace with something like kontakt 5?? Afterall they're just blocks stuck onto the hull right?
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Funny anecdote from Ukraine civil war.
Russian volunteer with military experience teach separatists to remove ERA blocks from totalled Ukraine government tanks to use for demolition charge or IED. When they actually get a tank, they find out the blocks were empty of explosives, only the metal cover is left. Turns out Ukraine gov soldiers removed them and sold the explsoives on black market earlier.
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QUOTE(thpace @ Feb 15 2015, 10:41 PM)
french is in midst of upgrading their leclerc while still delivering UAE ones

UAE wanted their subsequent delivery to be upgraded to the same france level but france dont want unless UAE pay.

Something like l order 20 car from proton, on the 10th car, Proton introduce a new improved model but on my remaining 10 order, Proton dont not want to send the improved version and only send the previous version

something like that when i read around laugh.gif
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Hahaha damn kedekut this pak arab. If you sign contract for vanilla version of leclerc, you get vanilla version of leclercs la.

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