can get help from india on that.. their new upgrade plan will feature air-conditioning system on their t-90s produced domestically

btw PT-91M have aircon  meh ? I thought also dont have

Can transport Leopard 2 across a river?

Sadly  the 150mm gun was cancelled 

If not we will be seeing 4th gen with 150mm gun

What makes you think general A doesn't have IFV, troops and air support behind his abrams? Check some of the war, the mbts are usually on front line be it open field battle or urban warfare. In Iraq, abrams leading the assault before making way for troops, hummers, ifv through. Same goes to Chechnya war.

Whatever you said, you think your enemy won't do the same? They won't be stupid enough to advance blindly with all their vehicles moving in straight line waiting for you to destroy first and last vehicle trapping the rest for you to finish off.

why we must think situation & environment in our soil will be as same as situation & environment in Iraq..??? for me, we cant take every details in Iraq to compare with what we have here, on our own ground..Iraq is a land vast with plain flat desert, which is a very good advantage to send tanks as a the main assault team..& this is also why Iraq have 5000+ tanks (sadly most of them cant be used plus its a monkey assad babil model of basic T72 tank btw) standing by

while in Afghanistan, abrams are not the main assault team..afghanistan are not like Iraq..too many hills & mountains, too many hidden places, not a good advantage for tanks..same goes to vietnam, also not a good place to let tanks lead any assult

btw, for chenchen war;
Chenchen war sos

u see..its not a battle of tanks vs tanks..yes of cos its about the weakness of T-72, but the most important thing is u must not rely too much on tanks vs tanks..yes PT-92M is inferior to abrams, leopard & other western tanks, but the most important thing is how the tanks suits ur doctrine & ur strategy..

for me, it would be better to choose a tank that is not too heavy, high-mobility & maneuverability, fast, easy maintenance & logistic support, have lower height than other modern mbt (actually T-90 would be better, but T-91M also ok la), & most important thing, can fire any modern shell (DU, KE whatever shit) effectively & accurately, while on static or while moving..other than that, wont mind to compromise here & there la

NSM cost close to usd 3 million each. Exocet about usd 3.5 million 

anyway NSM got small warhead than Exocet, but due to technology/design it get more higher rate to hit enemy target。

Not really, when i visit, russia ones, they like to highlight  their cost effectiveness on handling those threat with the given price tag. They dont like to claim my product can beat this beat that instead their marketing motto is more of cheaper price tag do the job good enough.

Only western like to compare especially us. Europe also seldom do that and is more like russian. Cheaper price tag to do the intended job.

Again.. russia have their own doctorine while us have their own. Comparing those two is foolish.

Didnt go to there but when i see their land based product even when they talking to generals of somewhere

What they always say is that my product can do this and that with this price tag compared to similar capability competitor who offer this price tag. Seldom i hear about mine can beat this no problem bla bla. Tat question is often posted by the military man instead rather than the sales team

Rough tally of military equipment and heavy weapons captured by Pro-Russian separatists in the Debaltsevo pocket after withdrawal of Ukraine government forces

very decent haul, if I may say so myself.

That list stats is incorrect. Since when serbia buying from americans? Also, for local, apart from su30mkm and mig29, the rest were from US, nato, korea. PT91 from poland unless it is considered russian made because of t72. By right should fall under blue red group.

First of all, did Thai buy that f16a brand new or second hand? In 1988, f16c already been around replacing f16a. If that f16a was bought 2nd hand from Americans, that means the aircraft is probably already way over 30 years old. Fighters structural frame lifespan is about 30 years old.

It's about time for Thailand to replace the old fighters to prevent such disaster from occuring. Time to ground all older F16a.

Serbia is now friendly to Americans? Thought they hated Americans because of Bosnia ans Kosovo war? I've been to F16.net, don't think the f16 could last longer than the heavy duty 'F15 and f18.

Armoured Vehicles Asia Conference 2015


28 April, 2015 - 29 April, 2015, Jakarta, Indonesia

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Taking place in Jakarta, Indonesia in partnership with PT Pindad, the Armoured Vehicles Asia conference invites you to join regional military officials and manufacturing partners at a series of lectures, round table discussions and working groups designed to strengthen existing and to create new international partnerships for armoured vehicle stakeholders.

If you are active in the region or looking for that first project to contribute your solution to, this forum will provide you with access to the information and contacts that you need to deliver your offering.


Why Indonesia?
Indonesia has increased its defense budget over the past 5 years from $3.2 billion in 2007 to $8.1 billion in 2013
Indonesia is in the throes of a rapid transformation, swept along by its position at the heart of the world’s most dynamic economic region
The country has recorded one of the most consistent growth rates among global economies during the past decade with nearly 6 percent annual GDP growth (McKinsey SEA Report)


Indonesia and Armoured Vehicles
Indonesia plans to buy 420 Terrex 8x8 AIFVs under license from Singapore’s ST Kinetics. In November it finalised a deal to procure 102 modernised Leopard 2 MBTs, 42 upgraded Marder 1A3 IFVs and 11 armoured recovery vehicles from Rheinmetall in a €216m ($290m) deal, which includes logistical support. The deal makes Indonesia the 18th nation operating the Leopard 2. Indonesia’s locally-built armoured personnel carrier, the 6x6 Anoa, has had a number of export enquiries since it was produced in 2009 from Malaysia, Iraq, Nepal, Oman and Bangladesh

About PT Pindad

PT Pindad's objective is to become the leading manufacturer of defence and security equipment in Asia, by 2023 by utilising product innovation and strategic partnerships and the implementation of an integrated effort. Their primary objective is to support national development and specifically to support national defence and security.

Starting with the Nation Car project in 1993, PT. Pindad began focusing on the development of motor vehicle technology. PT. Pindad (Persero) since 1993, has been working with the various parties both within and outside the country in it’s effort to develop a special function vehicle technology, including bullet-resistance vehicles to meet market demand.

Continuous research and development is conducted to achieve future goals to increase the capacity of business and technology. The resulting product, such as : Tactical Vehicle, Panser for the TNI and Polri, special construction and automobile spare part.


Asia Driving Global Armoured Vehicle Market Growth

There is an arms race taking place in Asia. China’s defence budget has increased eightfold in the last 20 years and now many other countries in the region are looking to catch up. Both Vietnam and Cambodia have more than doubled their military spend over the last decade and other regional powers, including Japan, Philippines and Malaysia are following suit.

According to SIPRI data, the top five arms importers in the world are all based in Asia – India, China, Pakistan, South Korea and Singapore. India recently overtook China as the top arms importer after Beijing invested in its indigenous defence industry to lessen reliance on foreign deals. India is hoping to mirror China’s success in this area as it seeks to bolster its defence infrastructure and award contracts to Indian firms.

Some analysts predict that the global armoured vehicle and counter IED market will decline over the next decade, with traditional markets in the West taking the brunt of the collateral. However, while the global market is set to wane, demand in Asia will actually increase during the period. ICD Research forecasts that the market in Asia will be worth $5.4bn in 2021, up from $4.4bn in 2011. The vast majority of this will likely be spent on tactical trucks, main battle tanks (MBTs) and armoured personnel carriers (APCs)
Countries in the region such as Thailand, Singapore, Pakistan, India and South Korea face threats from insurgent groups, further increasing the requirement for armoured vehicles and other military equipment.

The 8th annual Armoured Vehicles Asia conference will create a high-level platform to address these challenges, including:
Armour requirements and procurement processes
Enhancing Survivability and Protection
Improving Vehicle Mobility and Firepower
Integrating C4I Networks and Systems into Armoured Vehicles
Capability development for armoured vehicles to improve overall mission effectiveness
Providing operational case studies and experiences of armoured vehicles in battlefield operations

Armoured Vehicles Asia 2015 is part of our highly successful International Armoured Vehicles Series, dedicated and specially contextualised to the region. Our event offers the perfect platform for high-level, senior key decision makers from the military to interact and meet with international counterparts and industry stakeholders.

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I don't see the point of TNI buying ST Kinetics Terrex since they already have the Anoa.