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waja2000
post Feb 4 2015, 11:47 PM

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QUOTE(thpace @ Feb 4 2015, 11:28 PM)
dunno if cn-235 can be fitted with erieye aew.  hmm.gif  hmm.gif

or C295 with erieye aew instead haha tongue.gif
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Saab unveils C-295 Erieye concept

http://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/...concept-315879/


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but seem not practical, the radar mount too high, it create more balancing and resistance issue...
than u should know why AEW plane always like using plane wing mount in bottom of airframe, jike like in Saab 340&300/145 R-99A,also B373 AEW etc... because wing mount in top of airframe will close to radar and block radar down side scan up to 20~25%.
that why in picture they mount radar very high。

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post Feb 5 2015, 12:00 AM

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QUOTE(waja2000 @ Feb 4 2015, 11:47 PM)
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But so far no interest

But would we prefer turboprop or jet engine?
QUOTE(trollboy @ Feb 4 2015, 11:50 PM)
Why not just get e2d with the advanced super hornet package
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price tag and US restriction

US things always come with term and conditions. Rather get EU or russian stuff, no TnC as long u have the $$$

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post Feb 5 2015, 12:06 AM

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QUOTE(thpace @ Feb 5 2015, 12:00 AM)
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But so far no interest

But would we prefer turboprop or jet engine?
price tag and US restriction

US things always come with term and conditions. Rather get EU or russian stuff, no TnC as long u have the $$$
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Panglima RMAF said before they prefer turbojet engine ....for AEW

AEW always best with long range turbojet plane (usually commercial jet retrofit)
that why best for Erieye AEW is install in A319LR/CJ, buy A319LR it have 10,000km range, 11 hrs endurance fly, have speed, small (small than B373-800), AA/MAS can service, parts easy, Erieye use alot Thales system, eazy for Thales to re-trofit in A319LR. event big space enough to install front/rear radar to cover 360%, suface search radar at bottom airframe, price A319LR about usd 90 million,all system install estimated USD 200 million, value enough for AEW&C.

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post Feb 5 2015, 12:11 AM

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QUOTE(waja2000 @ Feb 5 2015, 12:06 AM)
Panglima RMAF said before they prefer turbojet engine ....for AEW

AEW always best with long range turbojet plane (usually commercial jet retrofit)
that why best for Erieye AEW is install in A319LR/CJ, buy A319LR it have 10,000km range, 11 hrs endurance fly, have speed, small (small than B373-800), AA/MAS can service, parts easy, Erieye use alot Thales system, eazy for Thales to re-trofit in A319LR.  event big space enough  to install front/rear radar to cover 360%, suface search radar at bottom airframe, price A319LR about usd 90 million,all system install estimated USD 200 million, value enough for AEW&C.
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have to masuk integration cost also since nvr done before laugh.gif
tat time value tak ada ad


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post Feb 5 2015, 12:12 AM

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QUOTE(trollboy @ Feb 4 2015, 11:50 PM)
Why not just get e2d with the advanced super hornet package
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also E2D no toilet ... means endurance hour is low, usually 2hrs+ fly hours.
it too small, only 2 operator.

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post Feb 5 2015, 12:23 AM

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QUOTE(thpace @ Feb 5 2015, 12:11 AM)
have to masuk integration cost also since nvr done before  laugh.gif
tat time value tak ada ad
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Integration not much, bcos erieye system already use in may AEW jet,
it not re-develop entire system, just more like fit & finishing integration no new jet, all system move from existing move over to new A319 plane.
my estimation Erieye system cost about usd 50 million, usd 50 million for integration cost. so cost around usd 200 million after add A319LR cost. max also no more than usd 250 million.

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post Feb 5 2015, 12:27 AM

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QUOTE(trollboy @ Feb 5 2015, 12:23 AM)
Its endurance usually 6 hrs la
Dont tell me u cannot shit/pee before u go on a mission
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technical is like that, but ....
tahan 6 hrs in plane? for all 4-5 crew
event us navy also usually 2~3 hrs fly only.

better give more better environment to crew ....

and than
" The unit cost of the E-2D Advanced Hawkeye is $179.36 million (flyaway cost in FY 2014)"
after add parts, maintenance , training, emulator, cost usd 220+- already.
for this price, i get Erieye system, at lease more comfort for crew.

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is the SAAB 2000 MPA and AEW&C no longer in production?
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post Feb 5 2015, 12:47 AM

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QUOTE(James831 @ Feb 5 2015, 12:38 AM)
is the SAAB 2000 MPA and AEW&C no longer in production?
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They are still in production
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post Feb 5 2015, 01:05 AM

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QUOTE(KYPMbangi @ Feb 5 2015, 12:47 AM)
They are still in production
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Saab 2000 already stop production for commercial sell,
but only production for Military sell for now. for MPA and AEW

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QUOTE(waja2000 @ Feb 5 2015, 01:05 AM)
Saab 2000 already stop production for commercial sell,
but only production for Military sell for now. for MPA and AEW
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Yup, saab no longer produce aircraft for civilian market
but their military version still running

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QUOTE(thpace @ Feb 4 2015, 10:21 PM)
anything out right made in Israel.. is a officially no no but

but made in indonesia mungkin boleh even may have some jews items inside. As long no one mentioned it,  no one will know  tongue.gif
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Bought some and called it made in Indonesia you will get Halal stamp whistling.gif

as long as is not an obvious item such as Merkava and Namer is cool bro whistling.gif




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Philippines accuse Chinese coast guard vessels of intrusion and attacking 3 Filipino fishing boats

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The Philippines said on Wednesday that a Chinese coast guard ship had rammed three Philippine fishing boats in the disputed Scarborough Shoal area of the South China Sea last week and Manila had protested to Beijing over the incident. China seized control of the area after a three-month stand-off with the Philippine coast guard in 2012. Beijing lays claim the entire South China Sea, which is believed to be rich in oil and natural gas deposits.

"The Philippines strongly protested China’s continuing actions to harass and prevent Filipino fishermen from legitimately pursuing their livelihood in that area," the foreign ministry said in a statement on Wednesday.

The Manila government handed over two protest notes to the Chinese Embassy in Manila, foreign ministry spokesman Charles Jose said. Calls to the Chinese Embassy seeking comment on the protests went unanswered.

Jose said the first protest was over the "intentional" ramming of three local fishing boats by a Chinese coast guard ship on Thursday, which had damaged the vessels and put the lives of fishermen at risk.
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All Saab 2000 and 340 made for AEW and MPA are refurbished.
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post Feb 5 2015, 09:44 AM

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Indonesian Air Force wants to replace F-5 tigers with Sukhoi SU-35S

Rabu, 4 Februari 2015 22:14 WIB | 551 Views

Jakarta (ANTARA News) - The Indonesian Air Force (TNI-AU) wants more sophisticated fighter jets, such as Russias Sukhoi SU-35s, to replace its F-5 Tigers, Chief of the Air Force Vice Marshall Agus Supriatna has said.

He added that the Russian-made Sukhoi SU-35 meets the requirements of TNI-AUs weaponry system, Supriatna said after opening a leadership meeting of the air force here on Wednesday.

He expressed hope that the government will fulfill the desire of the air force and purchase Sukhoi SU-35s to reinforce its weaponry system to ensure security in the Indonesian airspace.

"We hope the government fulfills our wish to purchase Sukhoi SU-35s. All can place orders, but we, as the operators, want jets over generation 4 to be ordered," the air force chief remarked.

One of the reasons the TNIAU wants to purchase these jets is that they will be much easier for the air force to maintain.

"We hope our technicians do not face any problems with the Sukhoi planes. It is important that we purchase jets from the newer generations," Supriatna noted.

Furthermore, the Russian government supports Indonesias wish to buy the multipurpose fighter jet Sukhoi SU-35 to enhance the countrys air force.

"We hope the agreement to buy SU-35s can be realized. Military cooperation between the two countries was established a long time ago. We want to maintain that," Russian Ambassador to Indonesia Mikhail Galuzin said late last month.

The ambassador added that the Russian government was ready for the same if Indonesia decided to buy Su-35s.

In addition, Galuzin pointed out that there was also potential for cooperation to be achieved between the two nations in various fields, including construction, military, and nuclear energy.

"Russia believes that there is potential for cooperation with Indonesia in the construction and military sectors, among others. Also, if Indonesia is willing, we are ready to help in the development of nuclear energy for peaceful purposes," Galuzin stated.

The Indonesian government is still deliberating over whether it should buy new fighter jets to replace the old F-5 E Tigers.

Indonesian Military Commander Moeldoko listed several options for new fighter jets, such as Sukhoi SU-35, Eurofighter Typhoon, SAAB JAS-39 Gripen, and F-16 Block 52+.

Currently, the country operates two types of Sukhoi jets, the Su-27 and Su-30 MK2, which stand by at the Sultan Hasanuddin Airbase of Makassar.(*)


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isuzu?
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Yup DMAX local assemble inanam KK
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post Feb 5 2015, 01:49 PM

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China WZ-10 fire Air-To-Air missile hit target ....(on exercise)

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QUOTE(waja2000 @ Feb 4 2015, 11:40 PM)
ATR72  too many crash ... seems un-safe plane ....  biggrin.gif
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choii... aku dah la slalu naik ATR nih hahaha

QUOTE(waja2000 @ Feb 5 2015, 12:12 AM)
also E2D no toilet ... means endurance hour is low, usually 2hrs+  fly hours.
it too small, only 2 operator.
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C130 don't have a toilet
but they have a special place with curtains to do business


QUOTE(trollboy @ Feb 5 2015, 12:23 AM)
Its endurance usually 6 hrs la
Dont tell me u cannot shit/pee before u go on a mission
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sh*t happened!

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post Feb 5 2015, 02:07 PM

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QUOTE(waja2000 @ Feb 5 2015, 01:49 PM)
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China WZ-10 fire Air-To-Air missile hit target ....(on exercise)
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The image link seems broken but here is the video:



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