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James831
post Jan 30 2015, 01:27 AM

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maybe we should lease the gripen as a stop gap measure at the very least until su-55em available. brows.gif hmm.gif
but then again it only possible will happen if RMAF interest to buy russian jet again.
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post Jan 30 2015, 01:27 AM

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QUOTE(Dreadstar @ Jan 30 2015, 01:24 AM)
36 la... replacement mig and f5/e  whistling.gif
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canot too mahal.. 18 is more logical one Squadron
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post Jan 30 2015, 01:34 AM

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QUOTE(James831 @ Jan 30 2015, 01:27 AM)
maybe we should lease the gripen as a stop gap measure at the very least until su-55em available. brows.gif  hmm.gif
but then again it only possible will happen if RMAF interest to buy russian jet again.
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rolleyes.gif rolleyes.gif

If malaysia want to join the development which russian aimed to sell to us, we can get faster or at least same time with india rather than wait because the two seater variant would likely be based on IAF just like how our MKM is based on the MKI

Other than tat, only beyond 2023, 2030 is a more realistic date

by than our MKM would seriously need a SLEP or replacement laugh.gif

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post Jan 30 2015, 01:37 AM

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is it even confirm or not..

btw can local company like ctrm do upgrade for them blackhawk? things like flir and nvg-capable cockpits.

p/s: looks like these ex rbaf blackhawks is the only ones we'll get (for free) since nz is going to get them ex austrian ones. I'd rather see more EC725 than fresh UH-60

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post Jan 30 2015, 01:42 AM

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QUOTE(ayanami_tard @ Jan 30 2015, 01:37 AM)
is it even confirm or not..

btw can local company like ctrm do upgrade for them blackhawk? things like flir and nvg-capable cockpits.

p/s: looks like these ex rbaf blackhawks is the only ones we'll get (for free) since nz is going to get them ex austrian ones. I'd rather see more EC725 than fresh UH-60
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su-55em? tongue.gif

the timeline was released by suhkoi itself.. a lot of comment is very unrealistic since only recently russian willing to share with india t50 technology, 5 years to develop and to full production is very short, tat is without prototype building rolleyes.gif


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post Jan 30 2015, 01:44 AM

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QUOTE(waja2000 @ Jan 30 2015, 01:16 AM)
about 24 unit ....  brows.gif
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QUOTE(thpace @ Jan 30 2015, 01:20 AM)
18, To complement our MKM which by then may need a SLEP upgrade whistling.gif
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QUOTE(Dreadstar @ Jan 30 2015, 01:24 AM)
36 la... replacement mig and f5/e  whistling.gif
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SO haven't order la? sweat.gif This is consider the rival for F-22 and F-35 right?
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post Jan 30 2015, 02:04 AM

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QUOTE(MasBoleh! @ Jan 30 2015, 01:44 AM)
SO haven't order la?  sweat.gif  This is consider the rival for F-22 and F-35 right?
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belum masuk production pun tongue.gif

yup to f22
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post Jan 30 2015, 02:06 AM

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QUOTE(thpace @ Jan 30 2015, 02:04 AM)
belum masuk production pun  tongue.gif

yup to f22
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haha i thought got the "pre-order". OMG..this is gonna be very exciting... rclxms.gif rclxms.gif
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post Jan 30 2015, 02:10 AM

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QUOTE(MasBoleh! @ Jan 30 2015, 02:06 AM)
haha i thought got the "pre-order". OMG..this is gonna be very exciting...  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif
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pre-order = pay for development cost laugh.gif

russia ada offer but kita like always no money yawn.gif yawn.gif
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QUOTE(thpace @ Jan 30 2015, 02:10 AM)
pre-order = pay for development cost laugh.gif

russia ada offer but kita like always no money  yawn.gif  yawn.gif
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oo.. what's the benefits for paying their development cost? other than able to get the jets earlier? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(MasBoleh! @ Jan 30 2015, 02:13 AM)
oo.. what's the benefits for paying their development cost? other than able to get the jets earlier?  hmm.gif
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certain level customization to your own requirements..

lower per unit price in actual purchase

cons?
bound to have problems on initial production batch laugh.gif
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QUOTE(thpace @ Jan 30 2015, 02:17 AM)
certain level customization to your own requirements..

lower per unit price in actual purchase

cons?
bound to have problems on initial production batch  laugh.gif
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oo i see. Thank you for telling me notworthy.gif
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post Jan 30 2015, 08:59 AM

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Chinese-made Nigerian army CH-3 UCAV crashes in Nigeria, demonstrates high level of Chinese weapons supply into Nigeria

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As the brutal Boko Haram insurgency has entered its 7th year in Nigeria, the relationship between the government and China has deepened. In many ways it is a match of needs. The Nigerian military has a pressing need for counter-insurgency (COIN) equipment, such as drones, MRAP vehicles and smart bombs (many of which the US has been unwilling to provide the Nigerian government due to human rights concerns). China is seeking to be a first tier exporter of such modern military systems as well as has a massive domestic demand for oil.

On January 25, 2015, a photo appeared on online at Beegeagle's Blog, appearing to show a CH-3 UCAV which crashed upside down near Dumge village in the Mafa District of Borno Province.

The two AR-1 anti-tank missiles on the CH-3's wings appear to be intact. Borno is the area where much of the Boko Haram violence, including the massacre of 2,000 civilians, occurred in 2015. Currently, the Nigerian military is fighting to hold onto the city of Maiduguri against a Boko Haram onslaught, so it appears likely that the CH-3 in question was flying reconnaissance and fire support missions for the Nigerians when it crashed. If so, this a significant step from using small UAVs for scouting and reconnaissance missions to operating UCAVs for direct strike missions against the Boko Haram militants.

Despite damage to the tricycle landing gear and upper forward fuselage, this CH-3 appears to have crash landed due to mechanical or control difficulties. This is in line with most other global UAV combat losses to date. As the CH-3 has a cruise altitude of 5,000m and a flight ceiling of 6,000m, it is unlikely that Boko Haram would have the necessary heavy anti-aircraft weaponry or training to do so.

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post Jan 30 2015, 09:17 AM

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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Jan 30 2015, 08:59 AM)
Chinese-made Nigerian army CH-3 UCAV crashes in Nigeria, demonstrates high level of Chinese weapons supply into Nigeria

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As the brutal Boko Haram insurgency has entered its 7th year in Nigeria, the relationship between the government and China has deepened. In many ways it is a match of needs. The Nigerian military has a pressing need for counter-insurgency (COIN) equipment, such as drones, MRAP vehicles and smart bombs (many of which the US has been unwilling to provide the Nigerian government due to human rights concerns). China is seeking to be a first tier exporter of such modern military systems as well as has a massive domestic demand for oil.

On January 25, 2015, a photo appeared on online at Beegeagle's Blog, appearing to show a CH-3 UCAV which crashed upside down near Dumge village in the Mafa District of Borno Province.

The two AR-1 anti-tank missiles on the CH-3's wings appear to be intact. Borno is the area where much of the Boko Haram violence, including the massacre of 2,000 civilians, occurred in 2015. Currently, the Nigerian military is fighting to hold onto the city of Maiduguri against a Boko Haram onslaught, so it appears likely that the CH-3 in question was flying reconnaissance and fire support missions for the Nigerians when it crashed. If so, this a significant step from using small UAVs for scouting and reconnaissance missions to operating UCAVs for direct strike missions against the Boko Haram militants.

Despite damage to the tricycle landing gear and upper forward fuselage, this CH-3 appears to have crash landed due to mechanical or control difficulties. This is in line with most other global UAV combat losses to date. As the CH-3 has a cruise altitude of 5,000m and a flight ceiling of 6,000m, it is unlikely that Boko Haram would have the necessary heavy anti-aircraft weaponry or training to do so.
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above picture, did your see the bomb is mount wrong direction? one facing front and other one facing back.....
hopefully we can get CH-4 too, perfect put in sabah

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post Jan 30 2015, 09:28 AM

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QUOTE(MasBoleh! @ Jan 30 2015, 02:19 AM)
oo i see. Thank you for telling me  notworthy.gif
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above just joke only, tongue.gif no need serious ah...
we not order any SU-50/55
maybe 10 year later possible will buy.
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QUOTE(MasBoleh! @ Jan 30 2015, 02:19 AM)
oo i see. Thank you for telling me  notworthy.gif
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above just joke only, tongue.gif no need serious ah...
we not order any SU-50/55
maybe 10 year later possible will buy.
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post Jan 30 2015, 09:33 AM

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QUOTE(waja2000 @ Jan 30 2015, 09:17 AM)
above picture, did your see the bomb is mount wrong direction?  other one facing front and order one facing back.....
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Hahaha, didn't noticed that. Probably originally the missile fell off and was later put back on the pylon by villagers. That would explain the backwards missile.



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post Jan 30 2015, 09:37 AM

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QUOTE(thpace @ Jan 30 2015, 12:41 AM)
sorry.. not for sale sweat.gif
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b-but I wanted the tea maker sad.gif
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Strangely fully equipped Malaysian Army soldiers being trained by US Marines. Ballistic goggles and Plate Carrier vests, anyone? laugh.gif

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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Jan 30 2015, 09:45 AM)
Strangely fully equipped Malaysian Army soldiers being trained by US Marines. Ballistic goggles and Plate Carrier vests, anyone? laugh.gif

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Why US soldiers always act like they are training SEA soldiers all the time....each time they meet in exercises.

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