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post Mar 10 2015, 05:50 PM

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QUOTE(OvenBaked @ Mar 10 2015, 05:44 PM)
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No money no talk, atleast until 2016 tongue.gif
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Will this affect our gowind procurement?

So no mrca replacement? No att held for esscom?

Nothing Ke?
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post Mar 10 2015, 05:59 PM

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QUOTE(thpace @ Mar 10 2015, 05:55 PM)
dont bother about super hornet

will purchase for sure in limited quantity even if other candidate chosen laugh.gif
Just want to know who will be the main winner
Nope..

esscom already have their own budget

MRCA...  at lima? that been the same thing for past 2 lima laugh.gif
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Maybe abit slowpoke, just googled some gowind corvette pic, looks gooding yo, and our improve design have stealth capability. Nice!

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post Mar 10 2015, 06:43 PM

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QUOTE(Dreadstar @ Mar 10 2015, 06:39 PM)
Rmn unveil official image for lcs gowind already

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Nice, very nice indeed!

Just curious, based on my read up, there's 3 diff displacement, 1000ton, 2500ton, and 3100ton.

Which one are we getting?

thpace As for the CIWS, it mainly served as AA or incoming projectile attack right? Not possibly to fit into our gowind? Or we just have no budget for it?

Hahaha
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post Mar 10 2015, 06:51 PM

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QUOTE(waja2000 @ Mar 10 2015, 06:49 PM)
this 1 not Gowind class,
picture is DCNS FM400, (FREMM Mini), is about 4000 tons, Frigate class between Fremm and Gowind.
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Sorry sifu, just googled gowind, no check propely!
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post Mar 10 2015, 07:34 PM

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QUOTE(hafizushi @ Mar 10 2015, 07:34 PM)
Besar juga kapal kita!


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post Mar 10 2015, 07:44 PM

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QUOTE(trollboy @ Mar 10 2015, 07:40 PM)
Ayam quite happy with the ship and programme because 6 frigates is quite a huge upgrade
Pls pray that we get at least essm instead of that crap mica
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Brahmos got ship launch or not?

Are we getting those too?

Hahaha
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post Mar 10 2015, 07:50 PM

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QUOTE(Dreadstar @ Mar 10 2015, 07:48 PM)
sidenote
our gowind will base on gowind 2500 (combat gowind)

just picturing this ship with stealth cupola with longer length. unfortunately our gowind come without UAVs system. although gowind design can support UAVs. We chose not to have them.


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Budget problem again?
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post Mar 10 2015, 08:12 PM

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QUOTE(waja2000 @ Mar 10 2015, 08:03 PM)
well 3100 kecil sahaja....
kalau tidak ada TOT/IP, boleh dapat Fremm frigate 6000 tons  cry.gif
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Mohon penjelasan on tot/ip. Thank you.
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post Mar 10 2015, 08:13 PM

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QUOTE(Dreadstar @ Mar 10 2015, 08:08 PM)
with that amount of money we bought gowind with TOT/IP = at least 3 fremm we can get.  cry.gif
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I suppose our purpose is only patrol and defensive, so no need big tonnage.

But cun juga ada kapal giler babi besar, can show off sikit!
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post Mar 10 2015, 08:18 PM

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QUOTE(waja2000 @ Mar 10 2015, 08:15 PM)
tot = Transfer Of Technology
IP = Tntellectual Property

we by DCNS Gowind with TOT/IP
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Oh, that's why we can built it here is it?

While the fremm cannot be build here?

Correct?
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post Mar 11 2015, 06:16 PM

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QUOTE(thpace @ Mar 11 2015, 12:45 AM)
save my pisang tak payah goreng.. makan saja cry.gif  cry.gif

so  Sylver VLS as well? laugh.gif
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what's with the issue of MICA?

are they that bad? and if it's bad, why do we even purchase them?
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post Mar 11 2015, 06:21 PM

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QUOTE(trollboy @ Mar 11 2015, 06:20 PM)
Its something like the tata nano of the sam world
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lol, now it's all cleared up.

so since all are talking about aster,

means aster is the roll royce of sam?

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post Mar 11 2015, 06:33 PM

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QUOTE(thpace @ Mar 11 2015, 06:24 PM)
It not bad, just for a ship that class or that price at least area defence capabilities. MICA basically limit it to point defence only . MICA is comparable to Aster 15 minus the booster and less versatile for layered defence. Look at SG Formidable class 

Basically the radar purchase limits or should I say seal the MICA fate from early on.

If there no IP/TOT plus shipyard upgrade included. I would say we could get better  weapon system
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Mica ... we purchase more like no future thinking
- short range 20km only, not able to provide good self defense capability, simply weak fighting capability.
- only single missile for each VLS cell. means our Gowind only have 8 unit defense missile. only 8 cell VLS we get.
- how do you think usd 500 million ship with so weak defense capability?


wow, looking at this, and comparing what sinkies have, i does seem like we're in a disavantage, even tho sinkies ships are approaching 10years old.

so thats mean our radar have limited capability too?

only penetrate up to 20km?

oh my...
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post Mar 11 2015, 08:39 PM

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QUOTE(BorneoAlliance @ Mar 11 2015, 07:06 PM)
New Setback: F-35s Won’t Be Able to Conduct Close-Air-Support Until 2020
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Unlike previous precision-guided air-dropped weapons, the Small Diameter Bomb II (SDB II) has the ability to track and hit moving targets from up to 40 miles. It will enter service in 2017.

The F-35 however, will not have the software package required to operate the bomb until 2022.

The delay will reduce the F-35’s ability to provide close-air support to ground troops, and raises questions about the aircraft’s ability to adequately replace the A-10 Warthog if Congress allows the Air Force to retire it.

Air Force leaders want to retire the A-10 by February 2019 so it can transfer the resources supporting the aircraft to the development of the F-35, which will be one of many aircraft that will backfill the A-10.

The SDB II will not even fit onto the F-35B – the Marine Corps variant – without modifications to the aircraft’s weapons bay. But the Pentagon is in no rush to make those changes, because the weapon still will not work until the correct software package is installed.

“When we get to the (software upgrade) of the F-35s those are going to be great CAS (close air support) platforms – when we get there.  So we’ve got to continue to move down that with respect to the systems,” Air Force Gen. Herbert “Hawk” Carlisle, Commander of Air Combat Command, told reporters on March 6.

The SDB II uses a guidance system known as a “tri-mode” seeker, which can direct the weapon using millimeter wave radar, uncooled imaging infrared guidance and semi-active laser technology.

“Really, in the close-in CAS fight, and the most challenging being danger close where you have adversaries and friendlies in very close proximity – we have to be able to support the ground component at that point.  We need the ability to deliver weapons rapidly.  We need the high magazine, we need precision and we need to be able to control the yield,” Carlisle said.

Part of the Joint Strike Fighter program’s developmental strategy includes a series of incremental software drops, each of which adds new capability. The drop that will make the F-35 capable of operating the SBD II is not scheduled to take place until 2022.

The Marine Corps’ F-35B is slated to reach operational status following a software drop later this year. The Air Force plans to reach operational status with its F-35A in 2016 using the next software update.

http://sputniknews.com/news/20150311/1019320014.html
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Didn't know they're using f35 to replace a10

Always thinks the a10 looks awesome and fantastic!

If only they give us tot/ip for a10!hahahaha

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post Mar 11 2015, 09:34 PM

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QUOTE(thpace @ Mar 11 2015, 08:50 PM)
too good for current use

considering how old it is, it will be a nightmare to maintain
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They should have update the platform and system while keeping its robustness.

I always see this similar to heavy machine gunner, low reliable tech, heavy damage, but lacks intelligent.


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post Mar 11 2015, 09:52 PM

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QUOTE(thpace @ Mar 11 2015, 09:48 PM)
very vulnerable to manpad

their maintenance now is salvaging part from retired ones which only US have, not ideal for our usage in anyway
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Haha.. The flaw of A10 in this age of time, the manpad!

But have rmaf flew any offensive air campaign in its history?

Probably there's some during communist time?


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post Mar 11 2015, 10:29 PM

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QUOTE(trollboy @ Mar 11 2015, 10:26 PM)
I oni know bombing sulu
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We got bomb sulu before meh?

I tot we tembak tembak only with raifle?

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