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TSyinchet
post Jan 26 2015, 03:20 PM

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post Jan 26 2015, 03:24 PM

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QUOTE(MrUbikeledek @ Jan 26 2015, 02:56 PM)
Multi-layered Air Defence
Long Range - Over 100km
Medium Range - 40-100km
Short Range - 10-30 km
Very Short range/Point defence - 5-10km

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post Jan 26 2015, 03:52 PM

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QUOTE(ayanami_tard @ Jan 26 2015, 03:10 PM)
Jernas is a shorads, so can considered as point defence ( alongside manpads/AAA). for long range we have Su-30MKM and whatever is going to replace the MiGs.

What we're looking for is Medium range SAM
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The problem with Fighter aircraft is that, they require runway which is a big and vulnerable target, and they required like 45 minutes on average after warning to finally take off. Even a fully armed and fueled QR still require 15 minutes. SAM only take at most 5 minutes to power up their targeting radar. Fighter is good against large group of attacking aircraft as their combine radar signature is large, and the coordination of a large group of aircraft require a lot of radio communication that we can easily intercept. So we have plenty of advance warning. But for lone low level infiltrator that may pop-up suddenly close to the target, Missile is still the best option.
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QUOTE(MrUbikeledek @ Jan 26 2015, 03:52 PM)
The problem with Fighter aircraft is that, they require runway which is a big and vulnerable target, and they required like 45 minutes on average after warning to finally take off. Even a fully armed and fueled QR still require 15 minutes. SAM only take at most 5 minutes to power up their targeting radar. Fighter is good against large group of attacking aircraft as their combine radar signature is large, and the coordination of a large group of aircraft require a lot of radio communication that we can easily intercept. So we have plenty of advance warning. But for lone low level infiltrator that may pop-up suddenly close to the target, Missile is still the best option.
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I dun where you get the time figure.
but it all wrong.
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post Jan 26 2015, 04:04 PM

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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Jan 26 2015, 12:49 PM)
Revealed: France has deployed over 8,000 troops in Africa (apparently without nobody noticing)

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French troops conducting a patrol in a town in the CAR (Central African Republic)

France has played a pivotal — and at times unilateral — role in tackling extremism and civil unrest throughout sub-Saharan Africa.

This role is aided by France’s history of colonialism in Africa. Although a painful aspect of modern French history, the often-brutal and exploitative colonial project left France with a network of major military bases across the continent that survives into the present day.

France currently runs operation Barkhane and Operation Sangaris. The numbers of troops involved are as below:

Operation Barkhane (Mali, Mauretania, Burkina Faso & Chad): 3000 troops
Operation Sangaris (Central African Republic): 2000 troops

Also there are permanent French garrisons in these countries:
Guinea Gulf: 300 troops
Ivory Coast: 450 troops
Djibouti: 1900 troops
Gabon: 900 troops
Senegal: 300 troops
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french foreign legion? hmm.gif

QUOTE(KYPMbangi @ Jan 26 2015, 01:00 PM)
PH SAF massacre update (mostly from fb sos)

- Apparently it's a 200-men operation to detain some wanted individuals from a MILF base with arrest warrant
- The operation is not coordinated with other security forces, resulting in the lack of armoured transport or air support
- The MILF base not expecting the SAF approach beforehand thought they were under attack
- The MILF retaliates with BIFF insurgents joining the fight later, against the SAF
- BIFF spokesman says they have captured around 20 SAF operatives, killing around 100 others

major fubar I'd say
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post Jan 26 2015, 04:11 PM

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QUOTE(yinchet @ Jan 26 2015, 03:56 PM)
I dun where you get the time figure.
but it all wrong.
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Unless you have a plane fueled and armed at the end of the runway, then 45 minutes is the reasonable timeframe. If you have plane fueled and armed at the end of the runway, then they may be launch as early as 5 minutes. But 15 minutes is a more reasonable time. It may take several minutes to strapped a pilot into the seat, and Fighter start up procedure will take several minutes. Unless of course you have a pilot strapped in the cockpit 24 hours a day.
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QUOTE(MrUbikeledek @ Jan 26 2015, 04:11 PM)
Unless you have a plane fueled and armed at the end of the runway, then 45 minutes is the reasonable timeframe. If you have plane fueled and armed at the end of the runway, then they may be launch as early as 5 minutes. But 15 minutes is a more reasonable time. It may take several minutes to strapped a pilot into the seat, and Fighter start up procedure will take several minutes. Unless of course you have a pilot strapped in the cockpit 24 hours a day.
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There is always few aircraft fully loaded, fueled and standby in the hangar. The rough estimation it took the aircraft on standby flying is less than 5 minutes probably within 3 minutes. The exact time is under osa anyway.
There is also combat air patrol in the sky.
And yes if in crisis time you will see pilot standby in the cockpit.

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Germany’s defence minister criticises Airbus over new A400M delays

http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/01/23/...N0KW21U20150123

prepare our A400 also will facing some issue.
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post Jan 26 2015, 04:31 PM

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Germany’s defence minister criticises Airbus over new A400M delays

http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/01/23/...N0KW21U20150123

prepare our A400 also will facing some issue.
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nothing new here. airbus aircraft is known to have many issues. i dont know if this new a400m can service longer than our c130h.
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QUOTE(ledtechn @ Jan 26 2015, 04:31 PM)
nothing new here. airbus aircraft is known to have many issues. i dont know if this new a400m can service longer than our c130h.
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i means later in kopitian later will have fully of people comdam RMAF/Gov, "tak boleh terbang" topic haha biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(thpace @ Jan 26 2015, 03:14 PM)
one fourmmer mentioned about our actual air defence plan before our financial crisis threw the plan away. According to him, this was what they (armed force) envisioned for our national air defence system

very short range- various manpad (actually already completed)
Short range - pantsir ( we are interested and wanted to join in the development. When we bought our MIGs, we were asked by russian if we are interested)
Medium range - buk system ( or medium range missile on s300)
long range - s300 system (could come later but idea was to equid it with medium range first and long range upgrade later on) rolleyes.gif

Iiinm vietnam also did theirs like tis.. lower initial purchase cost.. and when need to upgrade, just buy more launcher and long range missile. Actually no need launcher, just new long range missile canister sweat.gif 

why all russian? Well before 1997 financial, if we were to ask for patriot from US. They would definitely not sell to us partially because of Mahathir also  tongue.gif
European weapon industry have not matured
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other alternative if you not fond of about Chinese system

EuroSAMPT with Aster 30 or Chu SAM Type 03 with her AESA radar

or Akash Missile System of India
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QUOTE(waja2000 @ Jan 26 2015, 04:45 PM)
i means later in kopitian later will have fully of people comdam RMAF/Gov, "tak boleh terbang" topic haha  biggrin.gif
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Nothing new, do you know when we inked the deal in 2005 the delivery date of our first A400M is suppose to be at 2013?

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Nothing new, do you know when we inked the deal in 2005 the delivery date of our first A400M is suppose to be at 2013?
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post Jan 26 2015, 05:13 PM

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we're talking about new design vs someting that has been flying since b4 our own independence here. ofc there gonna be setbacks
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lel somebody really hardworking there.. like there's a winner prize for the most post/reply laugh.gif
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post Jan 26 2015, 06:15 PM

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Looks like a huge operation after all, 392 cops were involved in the operation initially

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PNP probes Maguindanao ‘misencounter’

The PNP says at least 392 Special Action Force cops were involved in the operation

Deputy Director General Leonardo Espina, acting PNP chief, said at least 392 SAF members were involved in the operation. The elite cops were plucked from other areas in Mindanao such as in General Santos City and other Cotabato provinces, Espina said.

[Rappler]

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