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post Apr 21 2009, 01:07 AM

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Does anyone know reason(s) returns from ASM products are consistent, e.g. always higher than FD rates?
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post Apr 21 2009, 10:54 AM

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QUOTE(andoril @ Apr 21 2009, 09:58 AM)
ya laa.. tat day onli bought some sukuk.. now got asm.. where got so much money la..
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Borrow from bank, e.g. increase home loan if value of your house has increased
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post Apr 21 2009, 11:53 AM

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QUOTE(uNeVErwaLkaloNe @ Apr 21 2009, 11:29 AM)
erm...so you guys recommending to buy aws instead of asm?

this link is not working
http://www.asnb.com.my/
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asnb.com.my is overloaded....too slow...
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post Apr 23 2009, 05:45 PM

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QUOTE(aeiou228 @ Apr 23 2009, 05:39 PM)
That's not fair ! Government can't do that. The purchase limit per account is fair and just in the spirit of equal distribution. If based on your suggestion of 1st come 1st served, It only takes a hand full of millionaires to wallop the whole funds within minutes. No chance for ordinary people be it malay, chinese or indian to invest.
Example if a retired businessman having RM20million laying in FD yielding only 2.5% p.a., he will be the 1st man waiting at ASNB/banks entrance door on 27th morning if there is no preset limit for him to invest into ASW.
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Retired businessman with RM20million uses FD? The person should engage a private banker. There is many investment instruments for high net worth individuals, e.g. hedge funds using various strategies.
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post Apr 23 2009, 06:00 PM

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QUOTE(soul2soul @ Apr 23 2009, 01:33 PM)
no lar , i think government very smart in terms of finding ways to finance their deficits. Instead of borrowing from outside, they borrow from their citizens...

something like the War World 2 bonds in USA last time.
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Agree, Malaysia government is very smart in this area. Besides borrowing from citizens, it has other methods to 'handle' deficits, e.g. private finance initiative (PFI), 'print more money'.

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post Jul 26 2009, 10:12 AM

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A Mandarin article on PNB funds
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post Jul 31 2009, 10:28 PM

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QUOTE(reevephon @ Jul 31 2009, 08:14 PM)
How many interest for AS1M? Does it mentioned the range of the interest?


Added on July 31, 2009, 9:14 pmJust a stupid question here, If ASNB collapse means Malaysia HABIS? The reason I ask this kind of question is because I've invested RM70k into those funds like ASM and ASW2020, and I scare of ASNB collapse then my money gonE!!!!
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I think the chance of PNB funds suffer huge nominal loss of more than 50% is slim, e.g. smaller than 30%. But cannot say that for RM. If USD depreciates against RM for 30%, what do you think BNM will do? Cut interest rate? Sell RM and buy USD? If BNM does any of these and US Fed believes the only way get out of this 'mess' is to devalue USD, then we have competitive devaluation, e.g. US Fed will 'print' more USD. So the nominal amount of your portfolio may be RM 70k X (1.07) power of 10 after 10 years, but what is the value of your portfolio, e.g. what can you buy? The only way to beat this is to have REAL return of more than 0% after adjusting inflation and currency devaluation


"The answer is SIMPLE. Do not keep ALL your money in Malaysia. Singapore is a short train / bus ride away."
It is a sad truth that some Malaysia Malaysians cannot think out of the box :-(

This post has been edited by oumind: Aug 1 2009, 01:27 PM
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post Jul 31 2009, 10:36 PM

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QUOTE(??!! @ Jul 31 2009, 06:55 PM)
Fund from EPF not enuf to fund 'stimulus pkg' ...so have to mop up more liquidity from the system via new fund, bond,t
allow to take from EPF , then not achieve objective...jus take right pocket, put in left pocket
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If you realize there is more funds offered this year, then you have to ask why? Usually sources of fund are EPF, Petronas, etc.

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post Aug 3 2009, 11:40 PM

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QUOTE(storekeeper @ Aug 3 2009, 09:19 PM)
Agreed with the more gain than conventional FD, just still think about the capital not guaranteed/protected tongue.gif
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I think master of issuer can sort of guarantee the capital because it has 'printing press' and the power to move money from left hand to right hand, e.g. musical chair. What is the worth of papers may be another story!


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