Does anyone know reason(s) returns from ASM products are consistent, e.g. always higher than FD rates?
AS1M, ASB, ASW,ASM,ASG,ASD
AS1M, ASB, ASW,ASM,ASG,ASD
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Apr 21 2009, 01:07 AM
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Does anyone know reason(s) returns from ASM products are consistent, e.g. always higher than FD rates?
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Apr 21 2009, 10:54 AM
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Apr 21 2009, 11:53 AM
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QUOTE(uNeVErwaLkaloNe @ Apr 21 2009, 11:29 AM) erm...so you guys recommending to buy aws instead of asm? asnb.com.my is overloaded....too slow...this link is not working http://www.asnb.com.my/ |
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Apr 23 2009, 05:45 PM
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QUOTE(aeiou228 @ Apr 23 2009, 05:39 PM) That's not fair ! Government can't do that. The purchase limit per account is fair and just in the spirit of equal distribution. If based on your suggestion of 1st come 1st served, It only takes a hand full of millionaires to wallop the whole funds within minutes. No chance for ordinary people be it malay, chinese or indian to invest. Retired businessman with RM20million uses FD? The person should engage a private banker. There is many investment instruments for high net worth individuals, e.g. hedge funds using various strategies.Example if a retired businessman having RM20million laying in FD yielding only 2.5% p.a., he will be the 1st man waiting at ASNB/banks entrance door on 27th morning if there is no preset limit for him to invest into ASW. |
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Apr 23 2009, 06:00 PM
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QUOTE(soul2soul @ Apr 23 2009, 01:33 PM) no lar , i think government very smart in terms of finding ways to finance their deficits. Instead of borrowing from outside, they borrow from their citizens... Agree, Malaysia government is very smart in this area. Besides borrowing from citizens, it has other methods to 'handle' deficits, e.g. private finance initiative (PFI), 'print more money'.something like the War World 2 bonds in USA last time. |
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Jul 26 2009, 10:12 AM
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Jul 31 2009, 10:28 PM
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QUOTE(reevephon @ Jul 31 2009, 08:14 PM) How many interest for AS1M? Does it mentioned the range of the interest? I think the chance of PNB funds suffer huge nominal loss of more than 50% is slim, e.g. smaller than 30%. But cannot say that for RM. If USD depreciates against RM for 30%, what do you think BNM will do? Cut interest rate? Sell RM and buy USD? If BNM does any of these and US Fed believes the only way get out of this 'mess' is to devalue USD, then we have competitive devaluation, e.g. US Fed will 'print' more USD. So the nominal amount of your portfolio may be RM 70k X (1.07) power of 10 after 10 years, but what is the value of your portfolio, e.g. what can you buy? The only way to beat this is to have REAL return of more than 0% after adjusting inflation and currency devaluationAdded on July 31, 2009, 9:14 pmJust a stupid question here, If ASNB collapse means Malaysia HABIS? The reason I ask this kind of question is because I've invested RM70k into those funds like ASM and ASW2020, and I scare of ASNB collapse then my money gonE!!!! "The answer is SIMPLE. Do not keep ALL your money in Malaysia. Singapore is a short train / bus ride away." It is a sad truth that some Malaysia Malaysians cannot think out of the box :-( This post has been edited by oumind: Aug 1 2009, 01:27 PM |
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Jul 31 2009, 10:36 PM
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QUOTE(??!! @ Jul 31 2009, 06:55 PM) Fund from EPF not enuf to fund 'stimulus pkg' ...so have to mop up more liquidity from the system via new fund, bond,t If you realize there is more funds offered this year, then you have to ask why? Usually sources of fund are EPF, Petronas, etc.allow to take from EPF , then not achieve objective...jus take right pocket, put in left pocket |
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Aug 3 2009, 11:40 PM
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QUOTE(storekeeper @ Aug 3 2009, 09:19 PM) Agreed with the more gain than conventional FD, just still think about the capital not guaranteed/protected I think master of issuer can sort of guarantee the capital because it has 'printing press' and the power to move money from left hand to right hand, e.g. musical chair. What is the worth of papers may be another story! |
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