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post Nov 27 2008, 07:14 AM

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correct me if i am wrong, i can get this by maybank, cimb, post office?

maybank2u can?
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post Nov 27 2008, 11:29 AM

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put in 8k at bank. from what news i recieve, each bank have a steady influx of people doing it, no long queues.

i wont put much hope in non-bumi quota lasting till next week, but worth i try i guess.

one auntie is prematurely terminating FD to transfer into it.
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post Nov 28 2008, 05:34 PM

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looks like the GLCs are really in trouble over the Global Economy Crisis?

btw, who is responsible for ensuring capital protection for ASW/ASM? government? 3rd party?

does ASW and ASM invest in different portfolios? logically if they dump into the same place, the dividends must be the same as well, which is not the case.
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post Nov 29 2008, 12:16 AM

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QUOTE(darkknight81 @ Nov 28 2008, 10:26 PM)
I have done comparison between ASW, ASB and ASM on their returns for the past 10 years which i got from my bankers who i ask him to help me put in my ASW and ASM.

ASB previously has been over 10% with dividend and bonus
These few years it dividend has been erroded same with ASW and ASM. From the table , ASB has been always the highest in return as there are bonus there compare to ASW and ASM which do not have that

Basically most of the fund in these three fund has been invested heavily on local GLC...Risk is their if you are talking about decrease earings of GLC...That is my major concern too as you can see their dividend has been depreciate since last time....My strategy is keep the capital of your what ever ASM ASW OR ASB...Whereas use the dividend to slowly invest in other investment tools
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as long as the dividend is more than FD and the capital is protected by 3rd party, i'm going to be taking it to replace the role of FD in my portfolio.
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post Nov 29 2008, 02:16 AM

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QUOTE(eric.tangps @ Nov 29 2008, 12:29 AM)
Pop quiz, why PNB always open ASW 2020 prior in declaring dividend???

Hmmm...  hmm.gif  hmm.gif  hmm.gif  It seems to be that for few times already.
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what do you mean? eg. this yr, dividend on 31/8; issue new unit on 27/11
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post Dec 26 2008, 04:15 AM

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QUOTE(kittybunny @ Dec 22 2008, 11:02 PM)
Hi.. I'm really new to this; e.g. I have absolutely no idea on what "compound" interest means. 
Anyway, I was reading ur reply, and I want to know why did you divide 40% by 15 years?  What do you get, and why is 2.66 not good?
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because fd is offering 3-3.5% per year, if you dont touch it and let the interest accumulate, you will get back more than 40% in the 15 years.

other pros of fd is that the money is liquid, meaning if you find a better investment vehicle in 2-3 yars time, you can transfer the money from fd into it without losing anything.

for most cap protect fund, the usual term is that you have to keep the fund till mature (ie 15 years) only can you take back your capital, if you withdraw in 2-3 years you may not get back full 40k.

hench its important not to get fooled by big figures and start to think in annual rate of returns. only then can you compare apple with apple
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post Dec 30 2008, 10:47 PM

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QUOTE(trunksku @ Dec 30 2008, 12:23 AM)
According to Robert T. kiyosaki, people who only invest in Mutual funds, Unit Trust or equivalent are losers! That's why the world is filled with a lot of highly educated, talented poor people. They don't want to learn the way rich people do. For an example, the rich learn to build company, the rich learn to build business, the rich acquires business skills and knowledge while doing it, the rich dares to take risks and learn to manage risks, while the poor and middle class are letting their money over to the professionals such as Mutual Fund managers or stock brokers to take care of. They do not have control at all! Read his books or listen to his audio regularly and you'll understand what i mean.
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not to pour cold water or anything, for every robert kiyosaki or donald trump, there are countless other also-rans who got nothing to show for their career in building business (some end up bankrupt even). I'm not saying you wont suceed, just remember that even robert sopposedly spend years living in basement and cars and trump nearly went bankrupt before. be mentally prepared.

the key is a well diversified portfolios containing some of all vehicles. as a freshie, i am choosing funds such as ASW/ASM for the moment due to its low risk and low entry barrier.

me, i'd rather be the millionaire next door or the automatic millionaire.
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post Dec 30 2008, 11:18 PM

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QUOTE(Kamen Rider @ Dec 30 2008, 11:04 PM)
Wait how low the risk on ASW/ASM that you are talking about???

Could it be 0.01 % or 0.1 % or 0.00001 %?

My personal view is that there is certainly a risk, if any of the fund is not getting the right return to sustain the dividend payout....
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how about lower than the stock market and most mutual funds for year ending 2008? more liquid than property, and most likely higher return than FD?

but then, the rules for playing stock, property, and funds are very different, so much to learn rclxub.gif
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post Jan 14 2009, 08:09 PM

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beware of kidnappers
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post Jun 26 2009, 11:52 AM

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QUOTE(winner @ Jun 26 2009, 09:01 AM)
You can transfer the money from your existing MBB, CIMB and RHB deposit acc to subscribe ASM. ASN offices do accept banker's cheque. Post offices only accept cash.
It's unbelievable that all Bumi allocation units have been fully subscribed. You may have a try at other banks and update us. smile.gif
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when i try to apply for ASW/ASM last time by CIMB, the dont allow me to transfer, they say must withdraw and buy vmad.gif mad.gif doh.gif

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