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post Jan 28 2009, 11:05 AM

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QUOTE(destroyer @ Jan 27 2009, 11:35 PM)
just wanna ask.

if i'm going to retired with an epf of rm5-6 million, if i invest all of them in ASB, how much profit will be given to me in one year?

sorry for such noobie question, coz i'm just a college student
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If you are capable of building your EPF up to 5-6 mil, you probably don't care too much about ASB profits anymore smile.gif
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post Jan 28 2009, 11:23 PM

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QUOTE(MilesAndMore @ Jan 28 2009, 01:53 PM)
5 - 6 Million as in Ringgit Malaysia ? RM5 - RM6 Million is very little and not to forget about inflation. No joke man !
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That's only the EPF component. What have you done with the rest of your earnings? Spent it all? That's your problem then. smile.gif
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post Apr 27 2009, 02:32 PM

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Get a Bumi wife, or husband... smile.gif
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post Jul 19 2009, 11:59 PM

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QUOTE(dreamer101 @ Jul 19 2009, 07:15 PM)
3) As to WHY I do not trust this government, the track record speaks for itself.  After the 97/98 UEM Renong affair, I NEVER invest in any government related stuff anymore.  And, if you DO NOT KNOW what the 97/98 UEM Renong affair, can you say that your TRUST is based on FACT or IGNORANCE??  Google is your friend.  This affair is widely published everywhere.  If you DO NOT KNOW, how informed are you?
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So I did some googling. According to Google, the UEM/Renong affair was related to the policies in place at the time, or more particularly the PM of that time. There have been 2 more PMs and whole raft of policy changes since then. Things have moved on.
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post Aug 1 2009, 11:18 PM

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QUOTE(aeiou228 @ Aug 1 2009, 10:54 PM)
Stay away from AS1M fund. I can't find capital guaranteed nor capital protected clause in the prospectus. Maybe help me to double check again.
AS1M Prospectus
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Neither does all the other AS* funds make any mention of capital guaranteed/protected in the master prospectus.
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post Aug 2 2009, 12:21 AM

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QUOTE(dreamer101 @ Aug 1 2009, 11:50 PM)
This is CONSISTENT with how Malaysian government works.  If you cannot pass the exam, you lower the standard.  Yes, ASM should be bench mark against balanced fund.

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No, it should not be benchmarked against any balanced index. Because it is fixed price at RM1 + plus some distribution payout (which can be seen as interest).

In the worse case where there is no interest paid out that year, you still get your RM1 back on redemption. You can't say the same for a balanced fund.
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post Aug 5 2009, 10:22 PM

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QUOTE(the snowball @ Aug 5 2009, 08:56 PM)
I think investor in both ASM and AS1M should be more curious about how they keep the fund as a fixed price fund even though they invested heavily in equities. If equities dropped 30%, the Net Asset Value(NAV) of the fund should decrease as well. So, how they keep it at RM1?
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If you look the historical payouts of the AS* funds, they are a "smoothed-curve" type of distribution. When the sharemarkets were up significantly in the recent few years eg 2006/2007 giving returns of 20-40% for equities-based funds, the AS* were still giving out something like 6-8% pa.

Where's the difference gone? Well, they must have kept the profits from the good years so they can continue to give payouts during the bad/negative years.

As long as the funds can withstand the bad years by 1) Being big enough, which they are, and 2) Reputable enough so they don't get panic withdrawals, and which they also are.

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