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jefferenelee
post Apr 19 2015, 11:31 AM

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Hi, would like to check with all the experts here as I am bit confused with the transportation systems in Japan.

I have checked the transport from Koyasan to Kiyomizu-Gojo through Hyperdia and one of most preferred routes with 3 transfer is as per the pictures shown.

I am a bit confused at the Tennoji station which is still on the Osaka Loop Line but it said the arrival track is 11 and departure track 12. So do I need to transfer at this station? It still the same train that ride through Kobayashi right?


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post Apr 19 2015, 07:47 PM

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QUOTE(atone @ Apr 19 2015, 06:29 PM)
Hi jefferenelee. Yes, you gotta change train. It means you will reach Tennoji platform 11 at 9:32 and then you have to catch the 9:33 train at platform 12 to continue your journey.
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But why need to transfer train since it's still on Osaka Loop Line (Inner Loop)? It's seems not practical to transfer train within one minute. I think it's the same train somehow coz there are two arrows pointing to the next station. Those station that require transfer is showing the "T" symbol.
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post Apr 19 2015, 09:40 PM

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QUOTE(RegentCid @ Apr 19 2015, 08:54 PM)
Loop doesn't mean the Train are moving 360 degree. If you see the Map properly. Osaka Station was at 12 O'clock and Tennoji Station was 6 O'Clock. Each train only run 180 degree.

Even Tokyo Yamamote Line also same. It was a loop line but the train won't run 360. Inner and Outer loop just run 180
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So does this mean that track 11 and 12 is different direction? And I just need to get out from the train and walk to track 12 to board the train to Kobayashi? Do I need to buy ticket again?
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post Apr 20 2015, 06:08 AM

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QUOTE(atone @ Apr 19 2015, 10:03 PM)
You only need to purchase the ticket from Shinimamiya to Kyobashi (Osaka) which is JPY180. Check out the attached image. Track 11 and 12 are just side by side. You should be able to make it in a minute.
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Ok, thanks a lot, it does clear some of my doubt. ☺

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post Apr 20 2015, 07:15 PM

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QUOTE(angkee83 @ Apr 20 2015, 11:56 AM)
Just came back from my first trip to Japan (Osaka)... really awesome country to visit... and not as expansive as many said...

Total damages below RM5k (self-planning)
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Can share your tips? I am planning to travel to Koyasan/Osaka/Kyoto/Takayama/Kanazawa in November for 10 days and my budget is to spend less than RM5K per person.

This is my first time doing a self planning overseas trip and I am still figuring and trying to understand their complicated transportation system.
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post Apr 20 2015, 10:16 PM

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QUOTE(RegentCid @ Apr 20 2015, 08:44 PM)
10 days for going these place will be wasting of money.  Recommend Minimum 14 - 16 days.
If only 10 days then just focus on Koyasan + Osaka + Kobe + Kyoto + Nara
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Why wasting of money?? To visit all the above city in ten days is possible, Koyasan 2D1N, Kyoto 3N, Osaka 2N, Takayama 1N and Kanazawa 1N. And we will just selectively visit the spot that we like. My neighbor did that in 8 days.

Of course we would want to spend more days if time is permitted. It's hard to take long holidays due to works commitment.

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post Apr 21 2015, 08:03 AM

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QUOTE(RegentCid @ Apr 20 2015, 11:27 PM)
Kyoto 3N + Osaka 2N not even can cover the City 30% Potential. With my standard.
Takayama + Kanazawa minus the traveling time...You only can cover 15% of the area potential, my standard.

I dunno who high was your standard as Sightseeing. I as the Master of this thread. We take one example, If you just spent one night in Takayama minus the traveling time, The time you left can sightseeing only 15% from what I know about Takayama than you.

Every time I read people schedule. I will do the statistic about how many % you as cover as that area. If you can cover 30-50% mostly I will say Go ahead // I will help you adding more up to 55 - 60%

If you take my advise just focus Koyasan + Osaka + Kyoto in 10 days...you can spent more time in City, discover it even more. Seriously you can ask anyone here, 3 Night in Kyoto enough or not?  biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif
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Ya, can't agreed more on your advice. That's the reason why I would take the challenge to plan my own itinerary this time rather than follow group tours.

But then, I really don't plan to visit all shrine and temples in Kyoto and have little interest on the City walk/shopping at Osaka.

For Kyoto, I will just visit 2-3 shrine in 1.5 days + 1 full day in Takao + Arashiyama.

As for Takayama, Shirakawa-go and Kanazawa. I really don't want to miss although the traveling time is long. 15% is alright as long as I got chance to cover the place that I want to go.

Anyway, I still have few months to restructure the plan.

Thanks for your sharing ya.
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post Apr 21 2015, 01:44 PM

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QUOTE(angkee83 @ Apr 21 2015, 09:41 AM)
I doubt you can do Takao and Arashiyama within 1 day. Both are far apart.

You must do some homework on which shrine you gona visit. Each shrine will take you about 2 hours (min), and if you travel budget (take one day bus pass, 500 yen). The travel time from 1 shrine to another shrine is about 30mins (min).
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From Takao, jungle trek/walk all the way to Kiyotaki (gateway to Sagano), then take a bus from Kiyotaki to Arashiyama. I have done my homework. ☺ If really not enough time, just skip one. 😊

As for the shrines visit, think I will just focus on Fushimi Inari Shrine, Tofukuji and Kiyomizu Dera which is not really far away from each other. And maybe the autumn night illumination in one of the shrine or Nanzenji.

By the way, the apartment that I booked (thru Airbnb) is near to Kiyomizu-Gojo and Gojo station. Hopefully it should be easier to navigate around.


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post Apr 27 2015, 01:47 PM

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Anyone know how to make online reservation for the following transportation?

1. Nozomi shinkansen from Kyoto to Nagoya
2. Wide view Hida from Nagoya to Takayama
3. Nohi bus from Takayama to Shirakawa-go
4. Nohi bus from Shirakawa-go to Kanazawa
5. Kanazawa to Shin-Osaka

I have tried search online, but couldn't find much information. There is one website (J-Bus) but must registered as member, and registration needs to be done in Japanese.

Many thanks.

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post Apr 27 2015, 07:31 PM

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QUOTE(RegentCid @ Apr 27 2015, 03:30 PM)
Buy on spot if you dunno how to used online reservation. Plus you dunno Japanese. Don't play play.
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I also thought of buying the tickets on the spot until I read from a traveller's blog that he failed to get the reserved ticket on the spot and was searching high and low for the alternative to travel to his destination (Takayama).

I am trying to avoid the kind of hiccups as I notice the transport from Shirakawa-go to Kanazawa via Nohi bus required reservation. Just can't imagine the panic that I need to face if all reserved seats are sold out on the day when I want to purchase. 😕
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post Apr 28 2015, 09:15 PM

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QUOTE(ivzh @ Apr 28 2015, 08:59 PM)
Hmm.. hotel in kyoto during end of november so expensive? i try search for hotel in agoda and other website,  mostly 3 star hotel ~rm1k/night, or more it's like 2 times more expensive than what i pay 2 years back.

may be it's too early to look for hotel now?

anyone have experience get accomodation from airbnb for their stay in japan? any comment?
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Airbnb should be OK, just ensure we read through the reviews. My friend stay with Airbnb accommodation before and her review is positive.

I have booked 5 nights accommodation through Airbnb in November too, cost are much much cheaper than staying in Hotel. And the apartment have washing machine and dryer so we can cut down on the luggage space.

Hotels are so expensive in November, might be due to the autumn season.

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post Apr 28 2015, 09:26 PM

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QUOTE(RegentCid @ Apr 28 2015, 08:52 PM)
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I arrive Kansai Airport at 10.30pm too and have decided to overnight in Airport to save the hassle for rushing and also one night hotel cost.

Kansai airport have airport lounge, and I read that by applying as member, you get 50% discount. So staying in the airport lounge wasn't that expensive. But their website mentioned that kids below 18 are not allow to stay in the airport lounge from 22:00 to 05:00. Can consider this option if you travel without kids.

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post Apr 28 2015, 09:52 PM

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QUOTE(RegentCid @ Apr 28 2015, 09:43 PM)
Rulez in Japan are extremely Strict. Such as hotel Room 2 people one room means 2 people one room.  Don't ever think rent a room but stay 3 - 4 people like we usually do in Malaysia. They have right halau another 2 people out from hotel or total black list you plus penalty super heavy fine as cheating
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I didn't cheat, all the accommodation I booked are for 3 adults though we are 2 adults + 1 kid.


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post May 2 2015, 06:13 PM

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I found this pocket WiFi renting service from our home country, rent @ RM28/day, pickup at KLlA/Mid Valley/Solaris Mont Kiara. Anyone used this before?

http://visondata.com.my/plans/japan
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post May 2 2015, 06:14 PM

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I found this pocket WiFi renting service from our home country, rent @ RM28/day, pickup at KLlA/Mid Valley/Solaris Mont Kiara. Anyone used this before?

http://visondata.com.my/plans/japan
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post May 2 2015, 06:14 PM

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I found this pocket WiFi renting service from our home country, rent @ RM28/day, pickup at KLlA/Mid Valley/Solaris Mont Kiara. Anyone used this before?

http://visondata.com.my/plans/japan
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post May 3 2015, 12:31 PM

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QUOTE(ZeroSP @ May 2 2015, 09:58 PM)
More expensive if you add in everything
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Ya, it's expensive and the only benefit is you can get the product before departure.

Have look through all Global Advance, eConnect and Pururu, but my arrival time is 22:30 at KIX and I got to leave the airport next early morning , so delivery to KIX post office is not possible as their working hours is 9am to 5pm. 1st night stay in temple lodge Koyasan.

Since I need internet connection after leaving the airport. Think I will just settle with the So-net data sim which can be purchase from the vending machine 24 hours in KIX.

Anyone use this before? Compatible with Galaxy Note 4?
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post May 4 2015, 08:34 AM

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QUOTE(jefferenelee @ Apr 19 2015, 11:31 AM)
Hi, would like to check with all the experts here as I am bit confused with the transportation systems in Japan.

I have checked the transport from Koyasan to Kiyomizu-Gojo through Hyperdia and one of most preferred routes with 3 transfer is as per the pictures shown.

I am a bit confused at the Tennoji station which is still on the Osaka Loop Line but it said the arrival track is 11 and departure track 12. So do I need to transfer at this station? It still the same train that ride through Kobayashi right?
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Now I found the answer, the >> sympol mean you do not needs to transfer train, just stay on the same train.


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post May 5 2015, 08:23 PM

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QUOTE(deodorant @ May 5 2015, 07:25 PM)
Me also lol. But all is 100% refundable until around end September. Those non refundable one I don't dare to book lol.
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I have booked mine too, traveling in 2nd half of November. I have read somewhere that the cherry blossom and fall season is peak season where accomadation will be fully booked and getting expensive. Just to be safe, I book early.
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post May 5 2015, 09:35 PM

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QUOTE(jefferenelee @ May 5 2015, 08:23 PM)
I have booked mine too, traveling in 2nd half of November. I have read somewhere that the cherry blossom and fall season is peak season where accomadation will be fully booked and getting expensive. Just to be safe, I book early.
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I booked 5 nights through Airbnb and 3 nights through Booking. com. It seems that the listing in Booking and Agoda is so expensive that I couldn't find the room for our family of three in Kyoto and Osaka with reasonable price and I do not want to change hotel everyday. So just trying my luck with Airbnb.


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