should I join Amway
should I join Amway
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Jan 19 2015, 06:10 PM, updated 11y ago
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yesterday, my relative asked me to join Amway. I am 'brainwashed' to the benifits of joining Amway, how to learn RM50k monthly. He told me much about how they earn the money , not much at the informations of the product.
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Jan 19 2015, 06:12 PM
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no. stay away from MLM
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Jan 19 2015, 06:12 PM
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Is a direct selling, you must know to cheat and mislead in order to success in this line.
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Jan 19 2015, 06:14 PM
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You would rather get a simple sales job n start cold calling. That's a better way to brush up.
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Jan 19 2015, 06:15 PM
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i heard that many ppl who tried to join direct sales will fail. Why is it so? What is MLM btw?
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Jan 19 2015, 06:16 PM
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Jan 19 2015, 06:18 PM
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U need to have few things as below to succeed in Amway:
- A diamond type of passion - Good communication skill - Good networking - Good & nice attire to wear everyday - Nice car Cons of joining mlm: - U will surely lose ur friends if u keep asking them buy things. - Everybody know mlm sell stuff which is totally overpriced. - Need to spend time & money to con ur fren & relatives. |
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Jan 19 2015, 06:19 PM
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QUOTE(azmi77 @ Jan 19 2015, 06:16 PM) LOL! I am asked to attend the meeting first , which I am asked to pay the RM2 . RM2 is not a problem. Can I attend the meeting first before decide to join Amway and pay the membership fees RM90? |
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Jan 19 2015, 06:20 PM
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QUOTE(delsoo @ Jan 19 2015, 06:15 PM) Mali! Lai! Mali!TS: If join MLM also dun join Amway lah...market saturate like hell, sell all the same shitz like soap, detergent etc. Wanna do, do health product...make sure it's good one. People sked of dying. Say eat your product liao, became Captain America. Sure win. |
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Jan 19 2015, 06:22 PM
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if I join Amway , am I required to attend many meetings? Any other ways of meeting new people and brush up my communication skills? Actually I don't like marketing very much .
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Jan 19 2015, 06:23 PM
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Join and brush ur skill.. thy provide alot of training
u can learn alot from there |
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Jan 19 2015, 06:24 PM
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Jan 19 2015, 06:27 PM
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NO to MLM,
next time u need to brainwash another person...no point Communication skill does not come from Amway...sorry to say tht This post has been edited by taitianhin: Jan 19 2015, 06:28 PM |
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Jan 19 2015, 06:29 PM
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Jan 19 2015, 06:30 PM
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QUOTE(delsoo @ Jan 19 2015, 06:24 PM) yup, u pay.mlm failure rate is 99%. the most basic principle why public refuse to buy items from mlm is because: 1) choices are not that much. in fact you can't choose to buy your product freely if you are a member. 2) more expensive than the one you found in store, but quality probably a little bit better. not worth the money. 3) it say it eliminate the middlemen fee ... but the price still much more expensive than the store outside. so ask yourself, will you buy Amway products if you are a consumer? I know I won't. |
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Jan 19 2015, 06:31 PM
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Jan 19 2015, 06:33 PM
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QUOTE(ReWeR @ Jan 19 2015, 06:30 PM) yup, u pay. If i am the seller , can I get the Amway products at cheaper price? I believe that Amway products are of good quality. Besides that , i am also told that i will get fixed money returns every month. How if the customer stop buying the product from me? Will I still get the money?mlm failure rate is 99%. the most basic principle why public refuse to buy items from mlm is because: 1) choices are not that much. in fact you can't choose to buy your product freely if you are a member. 2) more expensive than the one you found in store, but quality probably a little bit better. not worth the money. 3) it say it eliminate the middlemen fee ... but the price still much more expensive than the store outside. so ask yourself, will you buy Amway products if you are a consumer? I know I won't. |
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Jan 19 2015, 06:58 PM
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QUOTE(delsoo @ Jan 19 2015, 06:33 PM) If i am the seller , can I get the Amway products at cheaper price? I believe that Amway products are of good quality. Besides that , i am also told that i will get fixed money returns every month. How if the customer stop buying the product from me? Will I still get the money? even at discounted price, it's still more expensive than store.that's why we don't buy it. so it survive by telling all the members have to use Amway. I think it's just pointless if have to live life like that. |
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Jan 19 2015, 07:04 PM
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can i attend the meeting without registering as a member first? i just wanna see how the people promoting their products , and perhaps i can learn something from there.
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Jan 19 2015, 07:30 PM
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If you want to brush up your communication skills, then join the customer service line. There are many call center and front desk jobs out there. Just make sure you join a reputable company.
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Jan 19 2015, 08:37 PM
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QUOTE(delsoo @ Jan 19 2015, 06:29 PM) Hm.. the question is, why u want to brush up communication skill? What is the content of your question? What do you want to achieve?If you want to look for a better job, just apply one... there is nothing great abt communication skill, you would need it in every job |
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Jan 19 2015, 08:39 PM
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QUOTE(delsoo @ Jan 19 2015, 06:10 PM) yesterday, my relative asked me to join Amway. I am 'brainwashed' to the benifits of joining Amway, how to learn RM50k monthly. He told me much about how they earn the money , not much at the informations of the product. Well since everyone focus on how bad is MLM, I am going to focus on your main objective; social and communication skills. If you solely want to improve that particular skills, I would suggest you go to any volunteering work like home visits, charity event or social service. I too was not a good social and communication skills person. I got involved into NGO for more than 3 years and did many event related activities and that's where I sharpen my communication and social skills. You should try it if you REALLY into the idea of having your social and communication skill sharpen. This post has been edited by Belphegor: Jan 19 2015, 08:40 PM |
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Jan 19 2015, 08:42 PM
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QUOTE(taitianhin @ Jan 19 2015, 08:37 PM) Hm.. the question is, why u want to brush up communication skill? What is the content of your question? What do you want to achieve? i dont have many friends. I know that knowing many people and be close to them is very imporatant. I am that type of people who dont enjoy talking nonsense with other people. So , i hardly talk to the people in school and work place . But if I have question , i will definitely ask. Other may think that i am cool. So , i hope can brush up my commiunicatin skills, know many people , maybe this is good for me in the future.If you want to look for a better job, just apply one... there is nothing great abt communication skill, you would need it in every job |
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Jan 19 2015, 08:44 PM
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QUOTE(Belphegor @ Jan 19 2015, 08:39 PM) Well since everyone focus on how bad is MLM, I am going to focus on your main objective; social and communication skills. Can you tell more? what type of NGO jobs are there? How to apply for it? As i mentioned earlier , i dont have many friends and i am not close to my friends. My friends think i am cool and seldom ask me out.If you solely want to improve that particular skills, I would suggest you go to any volunteering work like home visits, charity event or social service. I too was not a good social and communication skills person. I got involved into NGO for more than 3 years and did many event related activities and that's where I sharpen my communication and social skills. You should try it if you REALLY into the idea of having your social and communication skill sharpen. |
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Jan 19 2015, 08:45 PM
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i join amway to buy their products with dist price .
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Jan 19 2015, 08:47 PM
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QUOTE(rifles @ Jan 19 2015, 08:45 PM) They made up the price....they reduce the price againThey sing their own song and edit it accordingly. and commented that the new song is better their own old song, and They are their own judge too... Whats the point? |
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Jan 19 2015, 08:47 PM
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QUOTE(delsoo @ Jan 19 2015, 08:44 PM) Can you tell more? what type of NGO jobs are there? How to apply for it? As i mentioned earlier , i dont have many friends and i am not close to my friends. My friends think i am cool and seldom ask me out. There are many NGO are currently going on actually. For the annual event charity activity would be 30 hour famine. You can join any famine camp. I personally have been involved into charity event for more than 4 years now and in 30 hour famine for 4 years already. May I know what you do for a living? Anything involving dealing with people? What you usually do during free time? |
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Jan 19 2015, 08:57 PM
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QUOTE(Belphegor @ Jan 19 2015, 08:47 PM) There are many NGO are currently going on actually. For the annual event charity activity would be 30 hour famine. You can join any famine camp. I personally have been involved into charity event for more than 4 years now and in 30 hour famine for 4 years already. browsing the internet , reading the newspaper , watching tv ....haha all activities are not productive. I seldom talk to people and dont like to talking nonsense. . May I know what you do for a living? Anything involving dealing with people? What you usually do during free time? |
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Jan 19 2015, 09:16 PM
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QUOTE(delsoo @ Jan 19 2015, 08:57 PM) browsing the internet , reading the newspaper , watching tv ....haha all activities are not productive. I seldom talk to people and dont like to talking nonsense. . Good that you find out in such young age. When I was your age I was still facing PC "training" COD4 with my friends. |
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Jan 19 2015, 09:23 PM
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QUOTE(Belphegor @ Jan 19 2015, 09:16 PM) Good that you find out in such young age. When I was your age I was still facing PC "training" COD4 with my friends. well i enjoy meeting new people . But i actally dont like to know them deeply. in the school , i am considered as nerd. LOL |
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Jan 19 2015, 09:26 PM
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Jan 19 2015, 09:27 PM
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This one is under Britt with Amway?
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Jan 19 2015, 09:30 PM
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QUOTE(Belphegor @ Jan 19 2015, 09:26 PM) Good enough. You don't really need to know them deeply. You can consider joining one of the NGO then. TBH , i am afraid that if i they know me deeply , they would slowly discover that i am a nerd . haha Becoz i have no specific interest . For example , my friends like to play online games , while i dislike. My friends enjoy jogging , while i not. I am just interested in IT. |
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Jan 19 2015, 09:35 PM
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QUOTE(delsoo @ Jan 19 2015, 09:30 PM) TBH , i am afraid that if i they know me deeply , they would slowly discover that i am a nerd . haha Becoz i have no specific interest . For example , my friends like to play online games , while i dislike. My friends enjoy jogging , while i not. I am just interested in IT. Why not? At some point they would need someone who is good with computers to do their internet related stuff. |
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Jan 20 2015, 12:19 AM
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If you do the sales by promoting, chances it will not work. This is because usually think sales always there to cheat.
And usually you dont have the real products for people to see first. |
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Jan 20 2015, 04:30 AM
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i love this...
MLM "guideline" to success Myth 1 Why waste your life by watching TV, yumcha, play games when you can meet more people to build your network Truth: Everyone needs their own time irregardless whether you are rich or poor... some time socialising and doing nothing will help with mental development Myth 2 All my upline drives BMWs and Merc. Our big boss drives Ferrari. You can be one too. There's only 40000 agents in a place where we have 29Mil population. Thats just 0.1%. Think of the possibilities!!! Truth: Its been around so long that everyone knows it and most just avoid it. Myth 3 Want to make more friends? Join us Truth: Everyone avoids you, only guys with the same feathers flock together Am sure many would have experience it when a friend, no contact like 5-10 years suddenly calls up and "hey, how are u, wanna meet up?" then you actually thought that ppl actually are that nice when you hear Myth 1 and 2 above from the session with your long lost friend. Conclusion: Try it but don't quit your job for it Always have free time for yourself even if you are in this line |
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Jan 20 2015, 09:36 AM
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No to MLM. You go pasar malam bukan gerai also can brush up your communication skill and marketing together. Which is also able to earn much, *depending on what you sell and where is it
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Jan 20 2015, 10:39 AM
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If you seriously want to join Amway, I would advise you to get a permanent job first, then do this part time during weekends. My dad was once introduced to this business by my church friend's father, but he did not take up the offer.
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Jan 20 2015, 11:20 AM
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use your common sense
if a company product is good, it won't bother to sell through MLM do u buy your iphone or samsung phone from mlm? why they not making a mlm biz model? mlm is mainly to focus on getting "sub-line", it is a game about getting/recruit more members, it not much on selling the product if u are the boss, and u can produce good products, would u bother to setup a mlm, or directly sell ur products to retailers? pakailah lu punya otak |
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Jan 21 2015, 02:29 AM
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QUOTE(delsoo @ Jan 19 2015, 06:29 PM) iCommunication is surface... The important part is how to tackle customer and thickness of ur face.. The more thick face ur gave the closer to bcome a real salesman... This post has been edited by tamagato: Jan 21 2015, 02:29 AM |
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Jan 23 2015, 04:02 PM
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if i join anway , can i ask for refund for membership fees if i am regretted of joining after few days?
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Jan 23 2015, 04:10 PM
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no harm trying, instead of listening to all what people say you get to experience yourself and walk to tell the tale of being an Amway member.
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Jan 25 2015, 10:51 PM
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QUOTE(delsoo @ Jan 19 2015, 06:10 PM) yesterday, my relative asked me to join Amway. I am 'brainwashed' to the benifits of joining Amway, how to learn RM50k monthly. He told me much about how they earn the money , not much at the informations of the product. There are many ways to brush up communication and socialize skills.Anyway, if you're joining Amway, whether able to do so is depend on your team/center culture [PERSONAL OPINION]. For my case, I'm in a large and warm center where I can meet people & leaders from various backgrounds, and we are like a big family. However, no offense, I see some team might has different culture eg. too focus on business and profit thus neglect relationship between people Anyway, it's always some improvement (because you need the skills if you want to do the business and you're willing to learn it) Not becoming a salesman but a great leader if you follow the right people (I don't know your mentor/upline so I can't tell) and learn the right thing I suggest you give it a try first, experience yourself, see whether it can give you what you want QUOTE(delsoo @ Jan 23 2015, 04:02 PM) if i join anway , can i ask for refund for membership fees if i am regretted of joining after few days? Yes, full refund within 1 year.Just bring the starter kit (the black bag) and member card to Amway shop and tell them you want resign, they will tell you what to do. My ex-downline get the refund cheque within 2 weeks |
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Jan 25 2015, 10:57 PM
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join toasmaster better
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Feb 4 2015, 01:55 PM
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Just like there are many good Universities with graduates who do very well, and some fail ... so do you blame the university or student takes the accountability for not doing his/her part?
So just like Amway, it's a strong successful company with great values. How one does depends on which team (ie friends) one works with... same with any corporate job too. Everyone has their perspective of anything, depends on what you've been exposed to and what info has been provided to you. of course, nothing comes for free ya. Meetings are just like how we have to attend company meetings but company meetings don't help you make own $$, but only help your bosses make $$. Here the meetings help YOU... IF you are of course willing to do the work. Anything worth gaining in life needs work. If anyone here still would like to check out this fantastic biz, can buzz me. You don't need to join 1st to attend the meetings. My biz meetings are not with Amway but the biz building part. Some small entrance fee is required of course. If you can pay RM 15 for a movie tix, this is nothing Just give yourself the chance to explore more. |
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Feb 4 2015, 04:25 PM
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if you feel interest on nutrition industry then you should join, if not you shouldn't, coz it will waste your time there...
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Feb 5 2015, 07:24 AM
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QUOTE(delsoo @ Jan 19 2015, 06:10 PM) yesterday, my relative asked me to join Amway. I am 'brainwashed' to the benifits of joining Amway, how to learn RM50k monthly. He told me much about how they earn the money , not much at the informations of the product. Please join if you think you have enough friends and good network. And please be prepared to see your friend block you in social media like whatsapp and FB. |
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