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post May 29 2019, 12:48 PM

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QUOTE(mowlous @ May 29 2019, 12:43 PM)
You sold premium out before right ? There is no time limit to recover them back ? Have to buy back with credits or gold? Pretty tempted to sell the skorpion G to pick up t34b.
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As you can see... only sell non-tech tree prems tier 8...

Having 2 accounts with same prem... sounds boring...

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post May 29 2019, 01:36 PM

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QUOTE(moodswingfella @ May 29 2019, 01:06 PM)
Not sure how bad u ask? Well, its terribad. I've played it before it was getting the nerf. Not worth the grind at all nor worth more than 10m creds in black market.

Edit : u dont compare derp gun mia dispersion with dengan ap gun lah. For derp/hesh gun 3.5 or above dispersion still considered good. Thats why ppl rarely missed when firing with kv2, japs line or even brit td's. U cant go wrong with derp gun when fully aim. But diff with ap gun.
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Not sure are we talking the same Foch 155...

The dispersion, during on the move or turret traversing, is quite different from 183mm calibre vs 155mm calibre. Even with same 0.35 dispersion on FV4005 pre-nerf.

Unless the player actually own the 183mm tanks, a lot of players duno how bad the Deathstar's gun bloom when moving its turret.

They will know how painful Deathstar accuracy when turning the gun and traversing with hull. (Only after the 23 millions wastage)

The bad part about FV4005 now is, 3.7 sec aim time + 14mm turret + 0 camo while aiming down + almost 0 retreat speed, but its forward speed still decent

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Some ppl actually calculate the whole line of Deathstar => 16 millions in total,

so Foch 155 is impossible worth less than 10 millions no matter how useless (which I feel much better than Deathstar when driving & aiming...)

Btw I just compared the Foch 155 with nowadays TD standard, but I duno about pre-nerf 155 how OP it was...



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post May 29 2019, 03:11 PM

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QUOTE(moodswingfella @ May 29 2019, 02:28 PM)
OP wise, i think wte100 is much more ridiculous OP.

i dont remember exactly the stats pre nerf for foch 155 but i dare to say in world of tanks history, foch 155 are the one who get the hardest hit. And wg nerfed this tanks like..2-3 times in the past iirc.

I dont know what wg did when nerfing deathstar and shitbarn but i don't think so wg nerfed all of this below to them :

- Increase weak point size & add weak point
- nerf mobility
- nerf gun stats (dont be surprised with the gun bloom, u will often feel this as this td has small gun arc)
- nerf armour
- decreased alpha dmg

All of the above nerf was applied to foch 155. I dont know if any other tanks pernah kena nerf this bad.

I understand how tempting some ppl look at foch 155. A 3 clip auto loader 750 alpha monster. Despite other weakness it still look bad ass. I might agree with that. We cant have it ALL in one tanks, but to took it ALL away from her....its an idiot and cruel move by wg. They didn't researched properly before introduce this tanks. All just half assed analysis.

Thus, i just dont see this tanks worth the same with deathstar (23m creds). Itu saja boss.
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Eh.... Foch 155 pre-nerf having more than 750 alpha damage pershot?

After checking and comparing the stats, I can pretty much live with Foch 155's gun bloom than Deathstars, since I am using FV4005's gun as benchmark

After comparing Foch 155 with all the TDs in my garage, pretty much it might behave a little bit worse than WZ-120-1G-FT's gun, since almost same stats but Foch's gun is bigger calibre.

Trust me, if you can survive in FV4005, and do decent damage, a nerfed Foch155 is nothing, but but but 0.38 gun bloom with super bad terrain resist on Deathstar, that my friend, I will avoid all cost hahahaha


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post May 29 2019, 03:13 PM

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QUOTE(mowlous @ May 29 2019, 02:53 PM)
What equipment you put on T34B ? I went for a few test round and smoke so many ppl I decide to further invest a bit by giving it the best possible equipment laugh.gif

I'd always put rammer ...... what would the other two be?
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Rammer + EGLD + VSTAB

You will need any equipment that can shrink down that aim circle asap to fully use that 248 PEN + 400 alpha, while reloading 13 secs per shot.

You will find T34 turret is allowing more rooms for errors than SKG if render line sniping is not possible.

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post May 29 2019, 03:42 PM

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QUOTE(mowlous @ May 29 2019, 03:18 PM)
Situational, the only thing that should be popping up for t34 is the turret any more then that your front or side plate is free dmg. Why GLD instead of vents?

Idk about long range sniping but my SKG already reach a point where I can just sit in the middle of a bush to fire and not triggering my 6 sense even when enemy is fairly close to me.
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The turret roof itself is overmatchable by any 115mm gun (not counting the weakest cupola), so any peekout engagement should be shorten as possible, EGLD do reduce considerable aim time along with VSTAB together.

Vents is more situational unless combine with BIA + Food.

I paling hate SKG's super huge gun mantlet + tall profile, so magnetic to enemy HE shell...
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QUOTE(mowlous @ May 29 2019, 03:51 PM)
Lol sadly you aren't interested on the path of a ninja. The only tank I've play so far that has better camo is either the swit TD or french LT BC. I've played a lot of games in skopion G to make it work like a ninja. Not easy but possible.

As for the turret, while the top is overmatchable its harder to hit then the T32. Even though the face is not as tough majority of the time a lot of players don't know where to shoot when only the turret is up. With that alpha at haul down situation its pretty comfy.
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My path is more like snipe the First strike after then fight it over(Lancer), not snipe and relocate type, but seeing my garage, I do engage many different playstyle to learn the their flaws in short time

Usually the criteria I need as a First-strike tank:

1. Very high shell speed against fast and small targets (M4A1, IS-3A), SKG failed at this aspect on my side, and I traded it off to T-34 vanilla
2. Hits hard (300-400 alpha, decent PEN by tier)
3. remain undetected behind 15 m of bushes(any bush size, any tank class)

QUOTE(moodswingfella @ May 29 2019, 04:20 PM)
Yea it was 850 alpha per shot. Get it if u want i just share my motion here cuz I walked the talk. And strongly disagree if wg sell this heavily nerf tanks with the same price as deathstar.

The way I look at it, it is unfair to ppl who have to pay a high premium price for something that has been nerf to the ground. WG even introduced foch b to replace foch 155 cuz statiscally ppl dont play foch 155. They didn't remove foch155 cuz it is OP or special (like wte100).
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Well just like how I view the same as yours if:

- Nerfed FV4005, discontinued a while, now being sold at 23 millions but in fact, that reverse speed + 14mm gigantic turret is killing a lot of casual derper after purchased.
- Deathstar have decent turret armor, to compensate the terrible bloom, but thats about it.
- Rarity justify the 23 millions, what to do lo...
- I feel that Foch 155 should be price at 21 millions plus minus, since my guess on T34B price is off.
- By current meta Foch 155 masih playable, unlike FV4005 crippling 8kmh reverse speed.

QUOTE(mowlous @ May 29 2019, 04:26 PM)
Even though nerf to ground, tier 10 autoloader .......... still will have a lot of ppl take the bait at 25mil credit price. Don't forget, asia here cyber cafe offer to help you farm credits RM5 bucks per hour. This whole 7 days "black market" is all about gathering statistic to see what they can or cannot get away with.
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QUOTE(mowlous @ May 29 2019, 04:36 PM)
I'm sad they didn't consider progetto or lowe ...... would have been fairly interested in those tanks too. Save my time switching between two account.
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Considering overall game balance and statistic, massive amount of progetto and LOWE will rapidly powercreeped the rest of the inferior heavies/MTs, result in full 15 v 15 LOWE/Progetto games.(Happens to Hydrostat sales)
Same applies to Deathstar priced at 23 millions, due to its MEME popularity nature, Foch 155 will be priced lesser since the Alpha per shot is significantly lower than Deathstar.

Ever wonder why they put 2 tier X tank destroyer despite both of them are extremeties opposite to each other? There are reasons... brows.gif brows.gif brows.gif
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post May 29 2019, 06:36 PM

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QUOTE(mowlous @ May 29 2019, 05:30 PM)
If WG desperate enough maybe put on Auf e 100 for 100k gold for sale ........ man I can't imagine that.
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So far I feel Foch 155 after nerf, is relatively balanced in current meta. Especially that 5 seconds interclip reload.

At least it wont let Bobject V4/705A rampage around...

Even if WUFE100 is released, it will somehow tone down the stats...

Seriously I feel that Foch B pretty meh.
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QUOTE(moodswingfella @ May 29 2019, 07:03 PM)
Current meta is pretty screwed since wheeled tanks been introduced. Further more with the new swedish MT line. Wtf was wg thinking? Swedish mt gets an automatic pneumatics (i think i butcher the name) suspension -12 degree depression with stronk turret without having to enter a delayed siege mode. While swedish td kena tekan X and have some delay.

Whats next? PL 01? There is no such balance meta, a lot of previous tech three tanks has become obsolete to play or rather useless to grind.
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So far Wheeled I feel the most, is they are dominating in FrontLine, get 1 prem wheeled and another tier 8 wheeled, keep using it with Progetto, easily dominate and destroy targets without being slowed down/tracked.

In tier 8 random games, wheeled always screwed current meta due to untrackable, but not as bad as Frontline.

Tier X games is highly unfavorable to Wheeled as their HP doesnt scale well with Tier X alpha and shell speed.


Sweedish MTs air suspension vs Sweedish TDs siege mode:

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You can see from Dispersion + Reload time among MTs and TDs, Tier 8 might not see a lot of difference, but if you compare tier X counterparts, there is a vast gap between accuracy + reload time. Once you being tracked by STRV-103b, you will easily lose at least 1200 HP before you can back into cover.

and to enter Air Suspension mode, you need to lower your speed by 10-23km in order to activate/deactivate the mode, all this mode offers is extra gun depression up to 13 degrees only.

While TD's siege mode vastly improve aiming time, accuracy and reload time to outgun the enemies even if 103B is spotted.

Currently I am playing STRV-S1 as a ridgline medium as long as I know how to avoid confronting 122mm gun calibre face to face.

Rush, use handbrake to drift and activate X at same time, by the time Strv stabilize its own gun, its ready to fire anytime.
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post May 29 2019, 11:48 PM

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QUOTE(even_steven @ May 29 2019, 11:13 PM)
Foch sudah on sale ka?
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Most likely will be at 0000, if no last minute emergencies...
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post May 30 2019, 12:10 AM

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This source in Italian: https://www.mmowg.net/world-of-tanks-black-...drC8n4DaPoo-pZM

30th May 1800 time our Malaysia next day 31st May 0000

Means tmr 1200 pm is IS-6B.

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post May 30 2019, 12:35 PM

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QUOTE(mowlous @ May 30 2019, 12:00 PM)
Lol 8k gold for IS-6B.
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32% disocunt on this Black HP Pinata.

Its pretty meh offer considering Black Market level.

Currently I have 27 million in reserve, 212A and T30 is ready for 0000 reset tank selling limit. Thus I will have 30 millions.

After all these selling, I learned that:

Tier by tier:

1. TS-5 is much better than T95 and T110E3
2. FV4005 now is pure shit as in 0 mobility, 0 armor, and 0 camo, which against my idea of being barely playable(VTU at least have camo)
3. Deathstar is a super trap that everyone is being blinded by its 1750 HESH alpha, effectively ignore the terrain resistance, and gun bloom
4. I will recover those prem tanks which is easier to play in Frontline which require mobility & accuracy. (CAX, M4A1, and Blackdog)
5. Instead of re-purchase back those sold tier 9 and tier 10 tanks which yielding 1.7 millions & 3 millions NET LOSS, I going to purchase new playable tier X which I unlocked.

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post May 31 2019, 12:03 AM

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QUOTE(moodswingfella @ May 31 2019, 12:02 AM)
Fuuu 25m.
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I was like super jumpy when the page when blank for 10 sec, keep refreshing BM...

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post May 31 2019, 12:07 AM

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QUOTE(moodswingfella @ May 31 2019, 12:04 AM)
There your 25m creds. Boom
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I feel 25m silvers more well spent than that 23m Deathstar...

cause I like massive damage on AP shells, instead of 8000 silvers on derpy gun...
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post May 31 2019, 12:25 AM

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QUOTE(mowlous @ May 31 2019, 12:10 AM)
Lol so kan chong .......later heart attk.
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I been having heartburn since few days over midnight sales hahaha now can sleep soundly~

QUOTE(moodswingfella @ May 31 2019, 12:18 AM)
If ppl got 23m to buy deatstar, apa lah sangat 8k hesh per shot 😁

Bad days for heavies.
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After you tasted 183mm super derpy and inaccurate HESH which cost you 8k silver at a slight MISS, and deal 300-500 damage to super heavies, you will know why I pick this Foch 155 over FV4005 and Deathstar hahahaha

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QUOTE(moodswingfella @ May 31 2019, 12:28 AM)
My shitbarn rarely miss. Always hit one. Blind shot, 1 shot kill lots of time dy. Which is foch cant do. Foch 155, lots of critical dmg but hp wont go dowb, oso once u shoot u spotted confirm oso ppl aim at u cuz ppl know u wanna fin ur clip arty oso love u. Heavies hull down oso no worries just shiit confirm deal dmg wan with derp gun. Ive tasted all of them dy lah. Wte100 is the best imo.
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I know, FV4005 can 1 shot KO most of the MTs and LTs, been there done that.

Deathstar current and forever annoyance:
- Its terrain resistance + crippling gun bloom + long aiming time => struggle to get accurate shot with 0.38 dispersion, very very sluggish to even relocate.

FV4005 current unplayable issue:
- Its not about putting that 1 shot only, its about survival after that 1 shot kill.
- Klaus kellerman even tried FV4005 after nerf and said: "while you still able enjoy the 1 shot kill, WG made everything else are just excruciating painful now"
- How do you feel with 8kmh reverse speed when launching 8000 silvers HESH with 0.42 dispersion with 3.7 aim time?
- Current nerfed FV4005 is basically having almost same mobility as Deathstar.
- 0 camo/armor/mobility is basically asking this current FV4005 to pay its 1 shot kill by its own HP.

Initially I was double diappointed when, WG made it look like FV4005 was nerfed heavily specially for Black market Deathstar sales, but after know Foch 155 is in the list, I found my new salvation on Massive AP shells nuking solution with great mobility + workable armor + workable camo.

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post May 31 2019, 01:42 AM

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QUOTE(moodswingfella @ May 31 2019, 01:17 AM)
Lets put it this way, every tanks have their own pro n cons and players, every each if them also fancy their own set of playstyle. Plus, map composition also determine the advantages of each tanks.

Deathstar, shitbarn, foch155. All kena nerf by wg dy. Me, i still love heavy burst damage. Playing brit td just feel like playing arta, which i love. I love the advantages to hurt crew members and modules constantly too.
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Haha yeah, I also love heavy damage but in AP shells, since WG have no love for 183mm AP shells, I found mine in Foch 155's 2250 AP nukes.

more than 50% of my fav hard hitting tanks now, are casemate TDs:

WZ-120-1G-FT
SU-122-44
STRV-S1
TS-5
T95
T110E3

Next step will be preparing for Frontline hulldown mobile tanks...
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QUOTE(moodswingfella @ May 31 2019, 01:51 AM)
Speaking bout hull down tanks, i love them too but hate it when derp gun start shooting at my stronk turret. Thats why i play my shitbarn and revenge back 😡
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Its a legit payback if you derped with Deathstar since it has decent turret armor to engage close range...

But derping enemy turret with FV4005, I afraid ppl derp your FV4005 14mm turret back with 100% effective HE... drool.gif drool.gif drool.gif

CAX (fast aim time, fast reload, and solid turret, reasonable mobility, best choice so far other than RAAC which I wait for discount)
M4A1 (mobile, small profile and hits hard with high speed shells, but slow reload)
Charioteer (since my FV4005 is sold until further notice)
TS-5 (slow but very fast aim time + well-armored)
T34B (Hits hard & solid turret, but sluggish)

I am picking 3 tanks to cycle in Frontline among these 5...

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QUOTE(moodswingfella @ May 31 2019, 08:20 AM)
Stay out of view range or 10m away back from bush. Just like how skorp g did it. No problem one. Thats how ppl play shitbarn.

My tanks for frontline nanti, I choose my Lowe. Not sure about mt, I wish I ada progretto. But anyway, i dont really bother with fl, same map boring lah. Plus now im casually play oni. Once a while play salt farming have some fun derping ppl with arty and then log out. Onky this week I quite active to see whats best on black market.
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SKG is still okay due to tier 8 and its alpha not really warrant FV4005 level kind of attention, these 2 tank play very different on each own due to camo/mobility difference.

Sorry to ask, but recently have you played a couple of games after Fv4005 being nerfed to oblivion? cause its mobility is the only weapon it has to survive... now it cant even move away in time from SPG splashes... 1 simple splashes => pretty much dead even under medium cover...

15m away from bushes + render range sniping is very situational on small-medium maps... and the availability of LT spotting for FV4005...
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QUOTE(moodswingfella @ May 31 2019, 12:05 PM)
Well im quite surprised then if u say like that. I managed to pull of some good games in my shitbarn playing similarly like skorp g biggrin.gif

True. Wg destroyed shitbarn and im not happy with it, make my life difficult whenever i play it. But thanks to some maps, i managed to exploit terrain to survive. Don't get me wrong, i still received dmg over time, tapi tak adalah sekali kena spot i immediately die. Map dependant I say this tanks just like any other td.

Additional, if play in small maps i usually will choose any heavies to be my bitch. After he took dmg and return shot i will try to poke. Most of the time it works, especially when i play with my fren in a plat.

Arta safe? I don't worried too much on this. We all know how its feel to be hit by arta when we thought we are already safe but such things happen. we cant avoid splash dmg when we are driving huge tanks but thanks to splash nerf, now it didn't hurt so much. Plus, i know sometimes arta shell will missed or just did small dmg due to rng. So i just not worried and try my best to be in arty safe location and hope for some luck to survive.

If enemy arty solely focused on us, keep blind shot even we are not spotted...then theres nothing much you can do eventually regardless of what td's you are driving.

Edit : Taking dmg or dead is inevitable for shitbarn, like it or not. I often end a game with only few hp left but rarely die straight away in the first 5min. Unlike bobject cough cough humm that one is one hell of a beast td.
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Haha actually SKG to me => Conway with 120mm (Charioteer superior than both of them as mobile sniper role)
Shitbarn => 0 camo => requires very different spots to survive and use the massive alpha

After using Conway + SKG + FV4005, I traded away SKG because, I feel SKG's alpha damage is being limited due to credit-making capability, despite all the flaws it has.

1. Both of them camo values pretty similar (yes despite tier by tier MM difference), thus their sniping style is pretty similar
2. SKG is better than Conway in term of MM difficulty, Alpha per shot and credit-making capability (Most of the premium tanks have contradicting flaws against its role, SKG = shell speed and floating shell arc)
3. Conway is much better than SKG in term of DPM and handle well in close range, and having super great turret traverse and bloom control.

Some might think that, Conway cannot be compare against to SKG due to MM and tier difference, but their playstyle is very similar due to camo values when it comes to positioning.

Old Shitbarn, require skills & mobility to punish the enemy and survives well
New Shitbarn, skills only required for 1st shot, if spotted, there is no skill required in manuever the shitbarn to safety, FV4005 are require to pay its whole tank HP by mandatory.
These shits happens because, good players over abuse its massive rewarding alpha to get away with skills. And majority of the average monkeys still failed to counter such.

The 1 hit kill fun of FV4005, is 100% negated by 0 camo/0 armor/0 mobility now. Its far worse than playing Arty... at least arty can have skyview and shoot over mountains...


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QUOTE(moodswingfella @ May 31 2019, 10:22 PM)
T44100 is on sale now but the price is fuuuuuhhh even standard package is rm213... who got this mt?
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my case I rather wait my 50% heroic coupon and use on RAAC 5/1 or AMX CDA 105 if got chance.

You got any use of T-44-100? crew? or just pure love?

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