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stanzai
post Mar 16 2015, 10:15 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Mar 16 2015, 09:51 PM)
U.S. oil output could start to take a hit by late 2015, OPEC said on Monday, suggesting the exporter group will have to wait beyond its next meeting in June to see if the oil price collapse is beginning to dent the shale oil boom.

OPEC holds its next meeting in June and comments from OPEC officials so far suggest it will not adjust its output policy at the meeting as it waits for the strategy to take effect.

For now, OPEC forecast no further rise in demand for its crude in 2015, trimming the forecast slightly to 29.19 million bpd, and left unchanged its estimate of global growth in oil demand this year.
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All I can say is the Brent crude oil is narrowing its gap with the US crude. The US crude did not suffered as much because the rig count in the states is still reducing every week.

But i dont know how long the US crude can last when OPEC and its cartel is going to keep pumping at this rate and amount. I would predict soon it will hit the US crude.
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post Mar 19 2015, 04:04 AM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Mar 18 2015, 05:19 PM)
Jan 29 2015
usd44.50
3.6375

Mar 18 2015
usd44.12
3.709
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Nice little trending there. I have notice this thing. The US crude is always inverse proportional to our exchange rate.

However, if look closely always after the increase in US crude the next drop will still result in a higher rm/usd exhange rate against the previous one.

So just want to conclude MYR is weak regardless of the crude. It may have some effect but I would say not significant.
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post Mar 20 2015, 04:56 AM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Mar 19 2015, 07:12 PM)
Mar 19 2015 10am
usd46.13
3.6725
Mar 19 2015 7pm
usd45.34
3.708

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Yup..its at 3.71 today.
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post Mar 26 2015, 02:54 AM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Mar 23 2015, 04:44 PM)
Oil drops as Saudi says will not cut output alone, weak China import hurts
http://www.theedgemarkets.com/my/article/o...ts?type=Markets
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Definitely no signs of OPEC cutting down the output though..WTI crude is narrowing the gap to only USD6.++ lowest I have ever seen so far since the crisis. The reduction of rig count did show some improvements in the states.

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post Mar 26 2015, 10:28 PM

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QUOTE(supersound @ Mar 26 2015, 02:45 PM)
We need war thumbup.gif
But seriously, Yemen does not block the major sea road unlike Arabian Gulf areas. So buying from Saudi to far East won't really affected. More on speculation sweat.gif
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But the funny thing is of all the bombing campaign it only surge 6%. instead, just shutdown some wells la for god sake, preserve the mother earth la and cherish some precious life. icon_rolleyes.gif
If it can surge to 100USD by end of month may be, just may be a different story la whistling.gif
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post Mar 27 2015, 01:01 AM

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QUOTE(supersound @ Mar 27 2015, 12:54 AM)
Nope, this is the thing KSA won't do as they will lose out the market share later on.
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Its just me being sarcastic, I know it will not happen, having them as the top producers, they will not reduce their production be it for their reputation or market share. They have already mention they can survive at the current bbl rate for another 6 to 7 years.
Personally i do really hate them as they are putting my job at stake. vmad.gif
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post Mar 27 2015, 01:39 AM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Mar 27 2015, 01:16 AM)
us oil/energy stocks already retreating after a good run yesterday. think that's it! tongue.gif
in o&g? the local scene seems all hunky dory, no news of any staff reduction, etc.
foreign cos. - i can understand, they r ruthless in times like this.
stay cool.
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yes bro. I am not too sure about the local scene but I heard from my friends, surprisingly the twin towers is still hiring people.
But, the place I am working currently is a O&G city, I can tell you the condition is really shabby. "Laying off" is an everyday/essential topic.
Btw, are you in O&G too?
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post Mar 27 2015, 01:48 AM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Mar 27 2015, 01:41 AM)
i was, long time ago. seen things then that are happening now. biggrin.gif
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haha..I bet you witnessed the 2008/2009 crisis. good stuff, veteran rclxms.gif

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post Mar 27 2015, 02:19 AM

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QUOTE(supersound @ Mar 27 2015, 02:09 AM)
For me, in between US and KSA, I prefer US to lose on this battle(of flooding the oil market).
Remember, US with their QE for few times already making them going to broke, so the shale oil is their last bet.
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I think what is happening now is just purely newtons law action leads to reaction. OPEC is reacting to the excessive fracking/shale gas happening in the states which cost around USD60 to produce 1 barrel.

I am not sure what the future lies, is OPEC going to maintain 60USD to continue suppressing it or is it the end of conventional crude oil?

What do you think?

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post Mar 27 2015, 09:18 PM

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QUOTE(supersound @ Mar 27 2015, 11:08 AM)
To produce shale oil, the fuel used, amount of waste gas(methane) generated will be a lot. So is not just cost of money, cost of creating more waste included.
The future lies to OPEC's hand now. But then OPEC are run by a bunch of alligators, so they may cut production to protect their interest. Still KSA refuse to do so, not much worry for this for the time being. We only need to worry if KSA come out with statement that they will reduce output. That will be nightmare to us.
US are waiting for this. And the price will shoot up to USD200 when this really happens.
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the only reason OPEC and its cartel is doing this is to suppress the shale fracking and also to maintain its market share which I agree.
However, personally this would not be the long run solution, how long can they do it? 6 years? They are using their own profit/revenue as a bet now.
Also do you know how easy for this well pad in the States to go back online? With a flick on the switch.
I think OPEC should have a smarter plan than this.
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post Mar 27 2015, 09:28 PM

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QUOTE(backspace66 @ Mar 27 2015, 07:58 PM)
USA is a net oil importer. They dont export oil due to the export ban even when there is excess lying around. low oil price is always good for USA. You need to differentiate between US shale oil producer interest and the country interest. In the long run USA is the one that benefit the most from suppressed oil price.
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What are you talking about? USA do export refine oil. O&G is definitely one of the key sector in their economy. They want a piece of profit as well in the mid stream before exporting.

Btw it already uplift, currently Shell US is allowed to export crude oil, http://www.wsj.com/articles/royal-dutch-sh...-u-s-1421232880


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post Mar 27 2015, 09:51 PM

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QUOTE(supersound @ Mar 27 2015, 09:31 PM)
People in Middle East? Come to 1 of those country and you will know how good they are sweat.gif
They are playing poker right now, see who surrender first.
Like oil price low, some are trying to keep them on ship tanker. but then it is risk also, like leaking to sea due to corrosion.
So is like you say, it won't last long.
OPEC knows that they can't lose out their market share to US, but they are not united going against their common enemy, US doh.gif
So, this is what happen now, people are getting jobless.
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Yup, that is exactly the scenarios. See who show hand 1st and who dare to follow.
But I only afraid 1 thing, for middle east ego first, rational second. rclxub.gif
Yup saw mega oil tankers all over.
Why do you think US don't export crude oil? the main reason like you say try to be the market share leader some point in the future. no doubt US is smart.
so ya, just get ready ur popcorns.
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post Mar 27 2015, 10:45 PM

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QUOTE(supersound @ Mar 27 2015, 10:08 PM)
For ME fellows, they already gain from the past, so they won't worry much.
But then now they are heart sick also, for every barrel sold, they are making much lesser profit.
Now US are keep on importing oil and at the same time exporting shale oil, this is to secure more market share.
And once they secured more market share, they will sell back the oil they imported with much higher price.
Like with average price they got was USD45, if they sell it out at USD200, how much they are making?
That's why some speculate the price will reach USD200 last time. Those speculators are paving the way for this.
But they never expect that KSA never get shaken by this icon_rolleyes.gif
So, this is it. Now what can really affect the price of oil is war and is started.
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Hmm, hate to say it but probably true.
However, they definitely need to launch a bigger scale in their offensive campaign. The attack on the tribes in Yemen did not seem any good. Its going back to starting point. Brent crude oil is USD57.69 as of now and showing bearish trend.
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post Mar 27 2015, 10:55 PM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Mar 27 2015, 10:29 PM)
this aspect is interesting.

any idea how much storage is available there - still plenty, almost full...?

saudi is said to be sitting pretty on usd700 billion reserves, surely can last a long fight.

but do they have the space to store for say, another 6 months?

will anyone just dump anywhere or burn if n when the "overflow" situation arrives? hmm.gif
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In fact Shell and some major O&G operator have this idea beginning of this year and started booking them. This vessels are set to sail around the sea.

S.O.S: http://uk.reuters.com/article/2015/01/08/o...N0UN0UO20150108

I dont think storage of crude is an issue. Building tank farms or hiring tankers can solve it. The main issue is for them to overcome the "demand" i guess. biggrin.gif
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post Mar 29 2015, 04:59 AM

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QUOTE(supersound @ Mar 28 2015, 07:40 PM)
http://www.forbes.com/sites/christopherhel...-gas-companies/
In response for your query, it is until June only.
Get your red wine, popcorn ready thumbup.gif
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The article is explaining the exact situation in northern america. I can tell you that Shell and BP has already been selling their assets in GOM. Even my boss tells me if the price go up to 100USD tomorrow it wont make big difference, because think about it, the crude oil has been hovering at 100US+ for so many years, and every other operating costs has been increasing consistently. So it will still not be profitable for them! unless it is 200USD icon_idea.gif

Yup, lets see how it fairs mate! thanks for the article btw.

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post Mar 29 2015, 05:04 AM

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QUOTE(backspace66 @ Mar 28 2015, 07:51 AM)
allowed to export ultra light oil as more us refineries is already exceeding capacity to refine this.  shale oil is not condensate. the fact is still oil and gas make up 1 percent of US gdp. That is based on published figures, not anyone opinion or wild gueses
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No one export shale! nobody wants shale. 1%GDP u must be kidding.
Common sense buddy, why do you think crude is so important to US if it is only 1%GDP.
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post Mar 30 2015, 01:23 AM

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QUOTE(backspace66 @ Mar 29 2015, 08:24 AM)
I suggest u do your math
http://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/pet_crd_crpdn_adc_mbbl_a.htm

Only around 3 billion bbl of crude produced. Lol. even at 200 usd/ bbl , it is merely 600 billion usd, not much in term of percentage yeah? But they also import crude oil.
Us gdp is around 19 to 20 trillion USD. I do agree in absolute value, the amount seems large, but still too low considering the total gdp of USA. Maybe you can start applying your common sense on this buddy
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That is why some of the forumers say misleading. Crude oil you are talking is just part of the O&G sector. The figures u highlighted are just only the upstream. What about mid stream and down stream?

How can Houston turn to be the 4th largest city in the States without O&G? I think 1%GDP cant turn a place to a city right buddy? dont tell me fishing indusrty?

No one will call the crude oil black gold for no reason when you think about it. anyways thanks for the source.
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post Mar 30 2015, 01:24 AM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Mar 29 2015, 07:00 PM)
u r the smart one! onlookers have clarity of mind, so they say! thumbup.gif

seriously, i take stan's comment here at heart. for 2 reasons - gom is currently desperate for cash to continue the plunder legacy... and their track record of being not forthcoming with truthful facts. so, buy or sell anything u deem fit. sweat.gif
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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Mar 29 2015, 09:46 PM)
yes, desperate for cash & I can really sense it.. I bet those on streets also feel it..

stanzai comment is also good.. He have 1st hand experience because he currently in O&G sector while most of us only hear stories or from research  icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(pustapazik @ Mar 29 2015, 10:00 PM)
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Damn guys, I also going to grab my popcorns. drool.gif
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post Mar 30 2015, 01:26 AM

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QUOTE(supersound @ Mar 29 2015, 01:38 PM)
When economy poor, high oil price don't do any good also.
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This i 101% agree. please tell our BNM analysts.
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post Apr 1 2015, 08:06 AM

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Guys popcorn masuk angin.. strong resistance around USD55~ for brent and USD47~ for WTI. How did the Iran nuclear talk fair?
Anyways, seems like Iran will benefit regardless of the outcomes.

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