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post Feb 5 2015, 08:20 AM

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i believe you guys are looking at the wrong thing. Government main source of income is Petronas, and Petronas operates all around the world. the point is government cant fill their coffers with dwindling profit gain from Petronas. Net oil importer or exporter, the goverment is still in big trouble.

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post Mar 26 2015, 07:35 PM

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QUOTE(supersound @ Mar 26 2015, 02:45 PM)
We need war thumbup.gif
But seriously, Yemen does not block the major sea road unlike Arabian Gulf areas. So buying from Saudi to far East won't really affected. More on speculation sweat.gif
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that is not the issue, now by having saudi fully involved in this fight, this is just creating discontent among shiite population in middle east. they already have isis pushing their back at iraq and now saudi joining the fight againt the shiite rebel in yemen.
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post Mar 27 2015, 07:58 PM

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QUOTE(supersound @ Mar 27 2015, 11:08 AM)
To produce shale oil, the fuel used, amount of waste gas(methane) generated will be a lot. So is not just cost of money, cost of creating more waste included.
The future lies to OPEC's hand now. But then OPEC are run by a bunch of alligators, so they may cut production to protect their interest. Still KSA refuse to do so, not much worry for this for the time being. We only need to worry if KSA come out with statement that they will reduce output. That will be nightmare to us.
US are waiting for this. And the price will shoot up to USD200 when this really happens.
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USA is a net oil importer. They dont export oil due to the export ban even when there is excess lying around. low oil price is always good for USA. You need to differentiate between US shale oil producer interest and the country interest. In the long run USA is the one that benefit the most from suppressed oil price.

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post Mar 27 2015, 08:12 PM

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QUOTE(supersound @ Mar 27 2015, 08:05 PM)
For consumer, low oil price always good.
But for government's stand point, it is no good.
That's why they tried to flood the market with their low margin oil. Sell cheap, gain more market then raise back the price. The difference will be their net margin drool.gif
Even the not so clever KSA also can see this. You think they are not hear sick because of low oil price? Across the Middle East, all are starting to cancel mega projects.
Not to mention smaller scale companies even started the retrenchment process.
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you better check your facts on how much actually USA depends on oil . The updated economic data for USA,GDP is mainly contributed by the service sector , around 80% for USA. so like i said, check your facts before spurting around nonsensical information

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QUOTE(supersound @ Mar 27 2015, 08:05 PM)
For consumer, low oil price always good.
But for government's stand point, it is no good.
That's why they tried to flood the market with their low margin oil. Sell cheap, gain more market then raise back the price. The difference will be their net margin drool.gif
Even the not so clever KSA also can see this. You think they are not hear sick because of low oil price? Across the Middle East, all are starting to cancel mega projects.
Not to mention smaller scale companies even started the retrenchment process.
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you need to differentiate middle east countries like KSA compared to USA, they almost entirely depends on oil for their economy. Saudi dependency on the industrial sector( mining and extraction included) is almost 70% while us is just below 20%(for industrial sector which also includes manufacturing....)

top 5 countries with most GDP contributed by Oil in term of percentage of total GDP of each country;
1) Iraq
2) Congo
3) Saudi
4) Kuwait
5) Gabon

surprisingly, oil and gas sector only contributes less than 10% of our country GDP. united states just 1%, now you tell me what this 1 % means to US biggrin.gif

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post Mar 27 2015, 09:04 PM

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QUOTE(supersound @ Mar 27 2015, 08:47 PM)
My facts are simply and easy :
If oil contribution to KSA and US's GDP are low, why both of them die die want to flood the market and refuse to reduce production?
Or you are telling me that they want to do charities whistling.gif
US technically already long bankrupt while KSA is just another greedy businessman whistling.gif
So you reply more on telling they are doing charity shocking.gif
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do you even read what i just wrote, like i said KSA is fully dependent on oil , but not US, this is based on published economic figures. maybe you can google check it out yourself.
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post Mar 28 2015, 07:47 AM

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QUOTE(supersound @ Mar 27 2015, 09:08 PM)
You mean those published rubbish whistling.gif
I read those, it still can't deny the fact that US bankrupt already whistling.gif
Maybe you can show me the fact on why both of them refuse to reduce output, this will help clear the doubts.
But I doubt you able to show that laugh.gif
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So if we do not depend on official published figures, then i guess we have to depend on your wild guess then
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post Mar 28 2015, 07:51 AM

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QUOTE(stanzai @ Mar 27 2015, 09:28 PM)
What are you talking about? USA do export refine oil. O&G is definitely one of the key sector in their economy. They want a piece of profit as well in the mid stream before exporting.

Btw it already uplift, currently Shell US is allowed to export crude oil, http://www.wsj.com/articles/royal-dutch-sh...-u-s-1421232880
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allowed to export ultra light oil as more us refineries is already exceeding capacity to refine this. shale oil is not condensate. the fact is still oil and gas make up 1 percent of US gdp. That is based on published figures, not anyone opinion or wild gueses

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post Mar 29 2015, 08:24 AM

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QUOTE(stanzai @ Mar 29 2015, 05:04 AM)
No one export shale! nobody wants shale. 1%GDP u must be kidding.
Common sense buddy, why do you think crude is so important to US if it is only 1%GDP.
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I suggest u do your math
http://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/pet_crd_crpdn_adc_mbbl_a.htm

Only around 3 billion bbl of crude produced. Lol. even at 200 usd/ bbl , it is merely 600 billion usd, not much in term of percentage yeah? But they also import crude oil.
Us gdp is around 19 to 20 trillion USD. I do agree in absolute value, the amount seems large, but still too low considering the total gdp of USA. Maybe you can start applying your common sense on this buddy

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