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hellokitten
post Jan 12 2015, 12:57 AM, updated 3y ago

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Can someone kindly explain the main differences between labelling someone a

A) Kafir
B) Munafik
C) Murtad

And please help list down some examples so it's easier for me to understand smile.gif I'm quite confused as they all seem to be related to each other.

Thank you.
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post Jan 12 2015, 12:59 AM

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good thread. I am confused too
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post Jan 12 2015, 01:00 AM

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better to ask in serious /k or RWI
Faidzal
post Jan 12 2015, 01:01 AM

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QUOTE(hellokitten @ Jan 12 2015, 12:57 AM)
Can someone kindly explain the main differences between labelling someone a

A) Kafir
B) Munafik
C) Murtad

And please help list down some examples so it's easier for me to understand smile.gif I'm quite confused as they all seem to be related to each other.

Thank you.
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all are Arabic words

1) non believer

2) non believer pretending to be believer

c) quit believing.

ray123
post Jan 12 2015, 01:02 AM

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A kafir is a disbeliever, someone who doesn't follow the religion.

A munafiq is a hypocrite, someone who claims to be religious but does contrary things (lie, cheat, steal etc).

A murtad is an apostate, someone who has turned away from the religion.
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post Jan 12 2015, 01:02 AM

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kafir -non muslims
munafik - practice islam but in side heart think its a joke trololo
murtad - muslims that leave islam.
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post Jan 12 2015, 01:02 AM

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kafir = non muslim
murtad= muslim that become non muslim
idunnolol
post Jan 12 2015, 01:03 AM

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Prejudice labelling.
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post Jan 12 2015, 01:03 AM

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QUOTE(Milupa @ Jan 12 2015, 12:59 AM)
good thread. I am confused too
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post Jan 12 2015, 01:04 AM

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they attacker in france we can call munafik lor
ah_suknat
post Jan 12 2015, 01:04 AM

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so in order, who more dosa?
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post Jan 12 2015, 01:05 AM

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QUOTE(johnkia @ Jan 12 2015, 01:03 AM)
that siggy girl name pls  wub.gif
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post Jan 12 2015, 01:05 AM

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Syukur, got people ask this. Other thread butthurt because the word "kafir".
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post Jan 12 2015, 01:06 AM

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QUOTE(Ned_Fromthenorth @ Jan 12 2015, 01:02 AM)
kafir -non muslims
munafik - practice islam but in side heart think its a joke trololo
murtad - muslims that leave islam.
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actually an Arabic Christian would call non Christians a kafir too....
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post Jan 12 2015, 01:07 AM

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thx all for clarifying notworthy.gif
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post Jan 12 2015, 01:07 AM

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QUOTE(ah_suknat @ Jan 12 2015, 01:04 AM)
so in order, who more dosa?
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C > B > A.

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post Jan 12 2015, 01:08 AM

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QUOTE(alien9 @ Jan 12 2015, 01:07 AM)
C > B > A.
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I dont think A is on the "scale" at all.
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post Jan 12 2015, 01:08 AM

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QUOTE(alien9 @ Jan 11 2015, 05:07 PM)
C > B > A.
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but i think munafik is worse
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post Jan 12 2015, 01:09 AM

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QUOTE(ah_suknat @ Jan 12 2015, 01:04 AM)
so in order, who more dosa?
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deeds and sins are gods work...
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post Jan 12 2015, 01:11 AM

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QUOTE(ah_suknat @ Jan 12 2015, 01:04 AM)
so in order, who more dosa?
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This was mentioned in the Qu'ran:

"Indeed, the hypocrites will be in the lowest depths of the Fire - and never will you find for them a helper -" An-Nisa 4:145.

This is because hypocrites are considered as hidden enemies, betrayers who would misuse the religion for their own purposes.
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post Jan 12 2015, 01:11 AM

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Fakir?
Menafi?
Motard?
hellokitten
post Jan 12 2015, 11:13 AM

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Faidzal, Ray & Ned, thanks for the clarification smile.gif
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post Jan 12 2015, 11:16 AM

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surprised as i posted this no ktards try to vroom2...yet.
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post Jan 12 2015, 11:17 AM

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Murtad is thrown around too liberally in Malaysia imo. When Muslims debate and disagree, sometimes they will accuse each other of murtad.

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post Jan 12 2015, 11:18 AM

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in the eyes of a bomber, they're all same
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post Jan 12 2015, 11:20 AM

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QUOTE(ray123 @ Jan 12 2015, 01:02 AM)
A kafir is a disbeliever, someone who doesn't follow the religion.

A munafiq is a hypocrite, someone who claims to be religious but does contrary things (lie, cheat, steal etc).

A murtad is an apostate, someone who has turned away from the religion.
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