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Clueless07
post Nov 18 2020, 03:53 PM

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QUOTE(Pugface @ Nov 18 2020, 01:20 PM)
hi sifus. i want some dry leaves effect in my tank.

dont want my tank to too much into tea colour. slightly i still ok.

all guides online are leaves from western countries.

any advice for malaysia cara? can i pick any leaves from garden, dry it under sun and boil with water before put in?
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why you want leaves ya.
normally people use daun Ketampang..
i bought some before from lazada/shopee

it add color to the tank, change the acidity
also... if put too much will make the fish and shrimps "high"

not sure about other leaves. anyway- they will rot
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Any recommendations on how to prevent fish from jumping out of the tank? It's a 2 feet tank.
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post Nov 19 2020, 11:32 AM

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QUOTE(Pugface @ Nov 18 2020, 01:20 PM)
hi sifus. i want some dry leaves effect in my tank.

dont want my tank to too much into tea colour. slightly i still ok.

all guides online are leaves from western countries.

any advice for malaysia cara? can i pick any leaves from garden, dry it under sun and boil with water before put in?
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You want the color effect or the acidity it provides? Like Clueless07 said, dried daun ketapang. But I was told you need to remove the vein (tulang/urat daun) before putting in the water.

Driftwood can give same effect. Boil the driftwood for 15 minutes to remove some tannins. The water would be light brown-yellowing color. I think I boiled mine 30 minutes & there is very light brown-yellowing color to the water.

QUOTE(Clueless07 @ Nov 18 2020, 03:51 PM)
try to put some food- they will come out.
those which can sink to bottom.
Pls find my sort of bowl aquarium.
there were some shrimps last time, with ember tetra... then slowly the shrimps are gone.
i've move out the ember and change to cheery barb- i think they are even less friendly with shrimps.

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Cheery barb eats shrimps. tongue.gif Maybe the shrimps jump out? They jump out if they don't feel safe as far as I know.

QUOTE(frankzane @ Nov 18 2020, 05:10 PM)
Any recommendations on how to prevent fish from jumping out of the tank? It's a 2 feet tank.
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Order custom cut plexiglass for aquarium cover.

This post has been edited by kizwan: Nov 19 2020, 11:42 AM
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post Nov 19 2020, 02:00 PM

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QUOTE(Clueless07 @ Nov 18 2020, 03:51 PM)
try to put some food- they will come out.
those which can sink to bottom.
Pls find my sort of bowl aquarium.
there were some shrimps last time, with ember tetra... then slowly the shrimps are gone.
i've move out the ember and change to cheery barb- i think they are even less friendly with shrimps.

user posted image
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Hw to keep the water clean with food ?
Even with internal filter the water gets dirty fast

That is very tall
Where did u find it ?

My shrimps all dead
Mayb i put in some soil like yrs
Now only hv moss
Might moving out the fishes help ?
I hv 4 zebras
+ 9 shrimps
maybe the bioload too heavy ?
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post Nov 19 2020, 02:11 PM

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QUOTE(kizwan @ Nov 13 2020, 02:13 AM)
If you have plant, then they have something to eat like algae or organic matter (detritus). I only have feeder shrimp or ghost shrimp & feed them hikari sinking micro pellets. lol
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Hm..
Wonder if the seller breed them with feed
Then i just let them eat algae
Will they have teouble adjuating ?

QUOTE(tachlio @ Nov 13 2020, 01:54 PM)
tank need time to cycle through and ready with good bacteria.
How long you cycle ady
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1 week with old filter ok ?
I put in tensiongon

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post Nov 19 2020, 03:26 PM

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QUOTE(brapa? @ Nov 19 2020, 02:00 PM)
Hw to keep the water clean with food ?
Even with internal filter the water gets dirty fast

That is very tall
Where did u find it ?

My shrimps all dead
Mayb i put in some soil like yrs
Now only hv moss
Might moving out the fishes help ?
I hv 4 zebras
+ 9 shrimps
maybe the bioload too heavy ?
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I believe you can have shrimps without filter. Just need to keep up with maintenance & water change every week.

How dirty? Maybe leaching from soil? Which soil are you using? Did you use cap?

BTW, you should let your tank balanced first before putting any shrimps/snails/fish. 3 to 4 weeks. After two weeks, you should be able to put some shrimps to take care algae.

QUOTE(brapa? @ Nov 19 2020, 02:11 PM)
Hm..
Wonder if the seller breed them with feed
Then i just let them eat algae
Will they have teouble adjuating ?
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Some shrimps eat vegetable. So do some research what your shrimps eats. Algae & organic matter alone may not enough.

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post Nov 20 2020, 06:46 AM

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QUOTE(brapa? @ Nov 19 2020, 02:00 PM)
Hw to keep the water clean with food ?
Even with internal filter the water gets dirty fast

That is very tall
Where did u find it ?

My shrimps all dead
Mayb i put in some soil like yrs
Now only hv moss
Might moving out the fishes help ?
I hv 4 zebras
+ 9 shrimps
maybe the bioload too heavy ?
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Try with aqua soil top w 1 cm of sand.
My suggestion is don’t put fish first.... just try shrimp. Zebra is very kacao fish. Stress the prawn.
If u want to put fish may be try to small guppy or ember tetra.
Don’t need to feed them.

And btw. Set up the eco system first. Put the plants and let it stable w no dirty water first.
The smell come from food (don’t feed), and organic decays( plants)

It has a filter but that is more for water circulation, oxidation ( bubble) and the bio ring for beneficial bacteria.
Bacteria does most work in keeping the tank stabil. Water change is not.
I do like 30% every 2 to 3 weeks. WC actually stir up more shits into the water from thr soil
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post Nov 20 2020, 09:25 AM

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QUOTE(kizwan @ Nov 19 2020, 11:32 AM)
You want the color effect or the acidity it provides? Like Clueless07 said, dried daun ketapang. But I was told you need to remove the vein (tulang/urat daun) before putting in the water.

Driftwood can give same effect. Boil the driftwood for 15 minutes to remove some tannins. The water would be light brown-yellowing color. I think I boiled mine 30 minutes & there is very light brown-yellowing color to the water.
Cheery barb eats shrimps.  tongue.gif Maybe the shrimps jump out? They jump out if they don't feel safe as far as I know.
Order custom cut plexiglass for aquarium cover.
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Any idea where can I get this in klang valley?

Wouldn't this prevent the exchange of O2?
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post Nov 20 2020, 10:17 AM

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if u wanna buy- lazada/shopee does sell
about rm 10

else as heard u can pick up near Kanna curry house at ss2.
the road between Kanna and Green view rest

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QUOTE(kizwan @ Nov 19 2020, 03:26 PM)
I believe you can have shrimps without filter. Just need to keep up with maintenance & water change every week.

How dirty? Maybe leaching from soil? Which soil are you using? Did you use cap?

BTW, you should let your tank balanced first before putting any shrimps/snails/fish. 3 to 4 weeks. After two weeks, you should be able to put some shrimps to take care algae.
Some shrimps eat vegetable. So do some research what your shrimps eats. Algae & organic matter alone may not enough.
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Ok
It doeasnt have soil
I try without filter or minimal use then
I suspect the zebras waste
Move them out already

Maybe they starve then
I will get mulberry as someone suggest

I think i too impatient
The new shrimps
Swim round & round
Up & down for hours
Is it a bad sign ?
A few seem to ne settling down


QUOTE(Clueless07 @ Nov 20 2020, 06:46 AM)
Try with aqua soil top w 1 cm of sand.
My suggestion is don’t put fish first.... just try shrimp. Zebra is very kacao fish. Stress the prawn.
If u want to put fish may be try to small guppy or ember tetra.
Don’t need to feed them.

And btw. Set up the eco system first. Put the plants and let it stable w no dirty water first.
The smell come from food (don’t feed), and organic decays( plants)

It has a filter but that is more for water circulation, oxidation ( bubble) and the bio ring for beneficial bacteria. 
Bacteria does most work in keeping the tank stabil.  Water change is not.
I do like 30% every 2 to 3 weeks. WC actually stir up more shits into the water from thr soil
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Ok
Put soil already
Looks more natural now
Ya noticed the zebra sometimes nip
Punish them
Put in another container

The hang on filter got sponge
Isit good enuf for bacteria ?
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QUOTE(brapa? @ Nov 21 2020, 03:00 PM)
Ok
It doeasnt have soil
I try without filter or minimal use then
I suspect the zebras waste
Move them out already

Maybe they starve then
I will get mulberry as someone suggest

I think i too impatient
The new shrimps
Swim round & round
Up & down for hours
Is it a bad sign ?
A few seem to ne settling down
Ok
Put soil already
Looks more natural now
Ya noticed the zebra sometimes nip
Punish them
Put in another container

The hang on filter got sponge
Isit good enuf for bacteria ?
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shrimp swiming up and down meaning water parameter no good.
High chance they will die soon...

Always cycle at least 3-4 week before any live stock.
Shrimp is sensitive so get 1-2 to test before other

Bacteria need some habitat to live, example this Chihiros is good but HOB filter having limited of space for it.
https://www.shrimpoly.com/my/shop/filtratio...uarium+%3E+60cm

This post has been edited by tachlio: Nov 21 2020, 09:55 PM
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QUOTE(tachlio @ Nov 21 2020, 09:53 PM)
shrimp swiming up and down meaning water parameter no good.
High chance they will die soon...

Always cycle at least 3-4 week before any live stock.
Shrimp is sensitive so get 1-2 to test before other

Bacteria need some habitat to live, example this Chihiros is good but HOB filter having limited of space for it.
https://www.shrimpoly.com/my/shop/filtratio...uarium+%3E+60cm
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ok
what filter do u use ?
they start eating already
hope dont see any dead bodies tomoro

they love corn !
other vege just ignore
very picky

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kizwan
post Nov 22 2020, 01:41 PM

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QUOTE(frankzane @ Nov 20 2020, 09:25 AM)
Any idea where can I get this in klang valley?

Wouldn't this prevent the exchange of O2?
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I don't know. I don't live there. Try survey any glass shop.

QUOTE(brapa? @ Nov 21 2020, 03:00 PM)
Ok
It doeasnt have soil
I try without filter or minimal use then
I suspect the zebras waste
Move them out already

Maybe they starve then
I will get mulberry as someone suggest

I think i too impatient
The new shrimps
Swim round & round
Up & down for hours
Is it a bad sign ?
A few seem to ne settling down
Ok
Put soil already
Looks more natural now
Ya noticed the zebra sometimes nip
Punish them
Put in another container

The hang on filter got sponge
Isit good enuf for bacteria ?
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If you don't have soil, it probably bacteria bloom.

Depend on the shrimp I think, they do move around a lot, scavenging for food. If moving erratically, that is not good sign.

Bacteria do live on sponge too but not enough. Fortunately planted tank have soil, bacteria lives in the soil too.
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post Nov 22 2020, 02:06 PM

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QUOTE(Clueless07 @ Nov 20 2020, 06:46 AM)
Bacteria does most work in keeping the tank stabil.  Water change is not.
I do like 30% every 2 to 3 weeks. WC actually stir up more shits into the water from thr soil
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One of my tank don't have filter. So I try to keep the water change routine every week because I want to vacuum most detritus/mulm from the soil. But since I dose micro & macro, detritus/mulm are less than before.

My dirt tank have internal filter but that mainly for water circulation & surface aeration. I added white sand to get the depth of more than 3 inch. I don't know why I didn't go with natural color sand. So far almost 2 months, BGA doesn't appear anymore. But now I have brown algae / diatom. I leave it alone because I want to see if it cured by itself. It's going to be a while because high silica content. Is there low silica sand?

EDIT: I meant BGA, not BBA. BBA gone too.

This post has been edited by kizwan: Nov 22 2020, 04:41 PM
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QUOTE(tachlio @ Nov 12 2020, 09:28 PM)
If you like to see more babies, feed them once or twice per week...
Shrimp food really cheap, even you can feed some Mulberry leaf(桑叶) if your area someone plant it...
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the mulberry
2 days they dont touch
do u cook yours ?

QUOTE(kizwan @ Nov 22 2020, 01:41 PM)
I don't know. I don't live there. Try survey any glass shop.
If you don't have soil, it probably bacteria bloom.

Depend on the shrimp I think, they do move around a lot, scavenging for food. If moving erratically, that is not good sign.

Bacteria do live on sponge too but not enough. Fortunately planted tank have soil, bacteria lives in the soil too.
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yesterday they move like prison break
luckily none die
but today
all very subdued
strange
hope tomorrow ok
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post Nov 23 2020, 08:43 AM

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QUOTE(brapa? @ Nov 23 2020, 12:10 AM)
yesterday they move like prison break
luckily none die
but today
all very subdued
strange
hope tomorrow ok
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Well that is not good sign. Moving erratically means something is wrong in the water. Then suddenly subdued, that usually means damaged has been done.
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post Nov 23 2020, 09:40 AM

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i did not go in too detailed on shrimp keeping. there is another thread which you should read more and ask your questions there.

what i know is...
the prefer clean water- so ensure your organic loads remain low.
How: 1) dont over feed, just a pallet or 2 will do. they can scavanve their food at the bottom
2) ensure the plants are not rotting.
3) if u have water circulution,like Hang on filter, i will helps to aerate the water.

they thrieve on low temp, so dont put under direct sunlight. undershed with a few hours of mornign sun is good. if in door under even better- but then u need some light else the plants will die.


i bought some plant over the weekend, but a bunch in- and a few of the shrimps died... other seems affected and recovering. i suspect they put pesticide. KNS!
i notice some off springs last week ( not many- but they are hard to spot until they grow to certain size)- i guess all GG liao.


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QUOTE(kizwan @ Nov 23 2020, 08:43 AM)
Well that is not good sign. Moving erratically means something is wrong in the water. Then suddenly subdued, that usually means damaged has been done.
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u r right
a few died..
haiyo
i just got a bigger tank
lesson learnt
will do proper set up & water cycling 1st

QUOTE(Clueless07 @ Nov 23 2020, 09:40 AM)
i did not go in too detailed on shrimp keeping. there is another thread which you should read more and ask your questions there.

what i know is...
the prefer clean water- so ensure your organic loads remain low.
How: 1) dont over feed, just a pallet or 2 will do. they can scavanve their food at the bottom
         2) ensure the plants are not rotting.
         3) if u have water circulution,like Hang on filter, i will helps to aerate the water.

they thrieve on low temp, so dont put under direct sunlight. undershed with a few hours of mornign sun is good. if in door under even better- but then u need some light else the plants will die.
i bought some plant over the weekend, but a bunch in- and a few of the shrimps died... other seems affected and recovering. i suspect they put pesticide. KNS!
i notice some off springs last week ( not many- but they are hard to spot until they grow to certain size)- i guess all GG liao.
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oh no..
thats a coincidence
i bought new plants like u
once put in
they fly round & round the bowl
then became quiet
today some died

shrimping is a huge learning curve..

last time i carried the bowl in & out of the balcony
haha
but too tedious to do daily
now got led already
ok will search for the thread

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QUOTE(brapa? @ Nov 23 2020, 12:10 AM)
the mulberry
2 days they dont touch
do u cook yours ?
yesterday they move like prison break
luckily none die
but today
all very subdued
strange
hope tomorrow ok
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Yes, you can either dip in hot water for 15min to let the leaf soften.

Always get a cheap shrimp(the one feed fish) MYR1-2 at LFS first to test water
Once they grow up, rmb to throw them away
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Update on my Co2 splitter status.

Received ZRDR 2 way split and purchase from https://shopee.com.my/product/169129062/6441346376
Its come with extention.
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I'm using Ista Co2 regulator with solenoid, the outlet is facing down.
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Its able to join without the extension, however its still minor touch to tank, i need to grind the splitter on the edge there.
Some tips for those wanna to use, do remember using bubble water to test any leakage on any join.
The less join, the less issue.

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