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post Oct 24 2019, 08:12 PM

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QUOTE(basilisk @ Oct 17 2019, 04:27 PM)
For more detail of ingredient used for pet food, you can google. I just roughly explain here.
I dont listen to pet shop/ sales ppl marketing, they will say this food is premium, this is super premium.

Example, screen shot below is from happy cat website.
Happy cat atlantic salmon.
Ingredient list for a product, is listed according to the amount (weight) used.
Look out for the first 5 ingredient.

1. Poultry protein.
This is the new term they use to make it sound better/nicer to consumer. Protein can be obtained from many parts of living things, including hair/ feathers.
Yes wild predator animals eat this, eg cat swallow whole bird / rat, but these are cheap/ by products of food production.
Happy cat atlantict salmon is Not cheap as supermarket brand.

So actual fact this could be just rendered by products.

2. Poultry fat
Again they get it from multi source, which is cheaper.

3. Salmon meal.
Ok. Single source,

4. Rice flour
5. Maize flour
6. Corn.
Maize = corn, both is the same thing. Means corn and more corn.

7. Meat meal.
Unknown source. Meat can be pork, horse, etc etc.
The supplier dont have to tell them what it is.
A very cheap ingredient.

8.Potato flakes
9. Cellulose - fibre
10. Haemoglobin
= blood
11. Beet pulp - fibre

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Atlantic Salmon = name of product.
Could be the rice + corn + corn is more than salmon already.

Made in germany? I did not check the packaging to see if they put the address of the company or factory.
Could not find any german address on the website - means it is questionable.

Why hide??

Alot of EU  pet food sold here, you will only find ' made in EU ' on the packaging, they dont have to state the country or the address of the factory.
Royal canin is one example.
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Helo, just adopted a kitten about 2 weeks ago. Currently feeding kibbles by the brand of Wono. Friends recommended Royal Canin kitten. Another recommended Misha. But after reading your post, I'd like to know if there are any better options out there for dry cat food. Any brands you would recommend? Thanks!

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post Oct 24 2019, 09:50 PM

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QUOTE(basilisk @ Oct 24 2019, 08:23 PM)
wono no good? i hvnt look @ their ingredient list.

actually all depend on your budget.. how much you wana spend? n also the kitten appetite, if choosy type, hard to satisfy.

misha, i think put last in ur list.
cos i saw they use weaved sack to pack the large packs.
that is not a good way to produce pet food.
just wana save cost only. same as power cat.

royal canin food, doesnt use the better ingredient, too expensive, but very popular cos most cat even the fussy ones will eat it. so if kitten is fussy, try rc.

i search wono, they dont even hv a website running, just fb.
so it could be made in usa, but it is not sold in the usa.

probably local/ regional brand, contract factory in usa to produce it. ship food in bulk and repack locally in msia.

how they ship the food in bulk is also a point to consider for those that wana scrutinize the details. cos shipping+ packing increases/reduce cost.
Cincai pack n ship in bulk, will reduce the quality/ contaminate the food.

Imported food tht is sold worldwide is packed in the manufacturing factory. The expensive ones are totally sealed to prevent contamination.

to be cont. cat is wailing...
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Ah thanks for the input. So far I have no issues with Wono. Kitten likes it. But I note that there's salt in it. But not the top 5 list. Somewhere at the bottom. I just thought of switching brands once I'm done with wono.

I'm trying to scrutinise the ingredient list now as per your info above.

Oh, what about Instinct by Nature's Variety Original Kitten Grain? The first 5 ingredients seems okay -


Chicken, Turkey Meal, Salmon Meal, Menhaden Fish Meal, Egg Product, Chicken Fat (Preserved With Mixed Tocopherols And Citric Acid), Tapioca, Peas, Chicken Meal, Dried Tomato Pomace, Natural Flavor, Lamb Meal, Montmorillonite Clay, Carrots, Apples, Cranberries, Vitamins (Vitamin E Supplement, L-Ascorbyl-2-Polyphosphate, Niacin Supplement, Thiamine Mononitrate, D-Calcium Pantothenate, Vitamin A Supplement, Menadione Sodium Bisulfite Complex, Riboflavin Supplement, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, Vitamin B12 Supplement, Folic Acid, Vitamin D3 Supplement, Biotin), Taurine, Potassium Chloride, Choline Chloride, Minerals (Zinc Proteinate, Iron Proteinate, Copper Proteinate, Manganese Proteinate, Sodium Selenite, Ethylenediamine Dihydriodide), Salt, Freeze Dried Chicken, Freeze Dried Chicken Liver, Pumpkinseeds, Freeze Dried Chicken Heart, Dried Bacillus Coagulans Fermentation Product, Rosemary Extract.

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post Oct 25 2019, 10:27 AM

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QUOTE(basilisk @ Oct 24 2019, 10:14 PM)
where do you buy instinct in msia?

looking @ the list, sure is very expensive.
it is grain free level, and hv plenty of meat source.

if compare to wono is like night and day, i dont hv to write further as u can see for yourself.

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oh ok available @ plc.

plc these days import more of these expensive food. i seldom visit, thts y tak tau.. lol...

almost like acana, think it is more expensive since sold by plc.
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Hmmm I checked out Acana or Orijen. But I think quite recently there was some class action law suit against those brands for allegedly causing DCM? :/ the more I read the more I pening. sad.gif

This post has been edited by abc_123learner: Oct 25 2019, 11:16 AM
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post Oct 31 2019, 02:54 PM

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QUOTE(basilisk @ Oct 28 2019, 01:08 PM)
happen to pass by plc, so went in to have alook.

saw this small bag of instinct 2.2kg?
thts super expensive..  wow lol..

thing is i noticed on both side of the bags, there r plenty of
small perforation.
this is purposely done during packaging, to release trapped air.

to me, this is totally unacceptable, bcos outside air can easily go inside the bag as well.
for this super expensive priced food.

can accept if its power cat or misha.. but this instinct...
plenty of other brands can do perfect vacuum pack, saw the hk based cindy recipe..
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whoaaaa.. thanks for the heads up, will be mindful of this... :/

Anyways, I've decided to try on Carnilove Salmon and Kitten for now. Will be getting the 6kg pack. Probably from there, to slowly upgrade instead of jumping straight to origen/acana. sweat.gif
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post May 30 2020, 09:38 AM

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Hello. I have a 11 months old kitten, male and neutered. Playful active etc. Just wondering if anyone here has issues with their cat vomitting?

I've encountered 2 types of vomit colour. 1 is food colour (dark brown as I feed him carnilove salmon kitten) another is yellowish/greenish colour with a bit (just a bit) of foam/bubbles). I spoke to the vet but vet said its nothing for me to be concerned of. Sometimes just hairball and all.

But in the past 1 week, he vomited twice in yellowish/greenish colour. I roughly googled, and I understand that it might be my cat's bile juice. I only feed him twice a day.

Should I be concerned? I don't see any cat's fur in the greenish/yellowish vomit tho. :/

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