By the time DX12 becomes mainstream, HBM will be available on both Nvidia and AMD cards. I don't see the issue. Mantle in theory can already combine 2 cards into 1 anyways.


Question is, WHEN does AAA games start supporting DX12? This year? I doubt it. I believe all this ties back into developing on consoles as well, to achieve "parity".

GUYS...GUYS......GUYSS......

There's no need to brand/label someone as a "FANBOY".

I have been using GPU's for a long long time.

From early ATI (AMD) Radeon cards & Nvidia cards till now.

Since ATI has been taken over by AMD, to be frank I am not that IMPRESSED with the current high end Radeon offerings (despite AMD's aggressive pricing). Performance is there all right but at some trade off with higher power consumption & heat.

When I look at Nvidia's product line, there's a certain refinement & quality in the products. (Despite the gtx 970 fiasco, the performance is still there AND will be there).

I tried out the Maxwell gpu's myself, I kinda like it, they re pretty cool / refined.....products.

despite it's build on 28nm, Nvidia has done a great engineering feat here. increasing efficiency / reducing power consumption at the same time, something AMD has not been doing or rather not to focused on it.

Just look at both companies today; Nvidia with a market cap of 10 billion dollars vs AMD of 2.2 bil. Definitely this speak for itself well, AMD needs to buck up.

ah ic, what i mean is if next time i wanna change motherboard and this thing happen, how do i fix it myself ? cause i dont wanna keep going back to lowyat to fix such simple problem =X

If you change it to H97,no BIOS updates needed.

Also,you are asking in the wrong section..

bro whats H97 ? btw where should i post this ? sorry ya

AMD likes to show off brute gpu power where Nvidia try to reduce power consumption, trust me my electricity bill is different when i started using gtx970

And you say you hadn't used it over 1 month?

I know this is not kopitiam but
Hehehahahoho

mine mobo already updated 1.40 > 1.50 > 1.60

My electricity bill is not bad after switching to seasonic power supplies.

I turn on my pc from 8am till 1am. And still have one more desktop running HD5830.

Monthly only RM87 bill. This includes 2 fridges and all other household electrical appliances for 4 people. Just no aircon.

Just need to remember AMD's TDP is always overstated, while Nvidia's is terbalik

This post has been edited by terradrive: Feb 10 2015, 08:09 AM

Yes in between was using gtx970, previous setup was a cfx 270x

Hahahaha interesting

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This post has been edited by JacksonR: Feb 10 2015, 11:25 AM

in nvidia there is option for power management.

i set mine to adaptive, only use the gpu as much as needed, then throttle when not really required to go all out.

I set specific rules for games i play to use maximum power when i have those games open.

To me this is a good balance between maximum performance and power management.


Not sure what ATI does in regards to that

Going to be a long time.

Windows 10 needs to be released first.

150w vs 2x 180w.

that also depends on how often you run it.

If you play games like 2 hours a day, the difference on bill would be negligible.

hm agree... is funny when people post about Electric bill different when using top tier Gpu... i mean.. different is minimal... if worried about bill why not just dun use High end gpu just use intel igpu.. better don't game... and not like each time open computer the TDP is boom 1,000W... lolx haha

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yes AMD TDP always overstated... by again i see Goldfries be" guys i test it on 500w okay ja.." (well not exact qoute.. but u get it ) meanwhile Nvidia advertise on their Idle TDP lolx

TDP != power draw

Interestingly nVidia stats 120w for GTX 960 and I managed to get the card to reach of exceed 120w power draw.

AMD on the other hand, if it's a 250w TDP card, takes me so much effort and I can't psu hit to 250w. My R9 280X + R9 280X + FX-9590 configuration I expect 250w + 250w + 200w = 700w, with wall draw around 800w but want to breach 600w wall draw also difficult.

And so i be keeping my 770 for very long time

Eh curious how you managed to max out the powerdraw of the card. Nvidia has better driver api to max the performance of their card ever since the wonder driver.. You need to account for that

Best without throttling is 3dmark11 gpu test one custom all max with AA disabled. Warning to others on this test. Even wc furmark/folding temp only 41c. This hits 50-55c after few loops.

This post has been edited by cstkl1: Feb 10 2015, 01:00 PM