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shikimori
post Jan 30 2015, 10:14 AM

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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Jan 30 2015, 09:19 AM)
We will need to see how far it affected the 4K games.

As far as shikimori's case is concerned, he is running SLI on U2913WM, which is 1080p.
Is the performance affected? Again, which games? Can it be fixed by either firmware or driver?
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erm , u2913wm not exactly 1080p or 1440p per se but still it requires more than just one 970 to play fluidly on ultra with all eye candy on.

No problem with frame rate as I mention all the time . It's just the frame hitching is unbearable , battlefield 4 stop stuttering now , Dying light gawd awful , Realm reborn once in a while but that's an mmorpg so it could be cpu wise , far cry 4 after new driver update works smooth as butter and ass creed unity is horrendous as usual .

Almost forgot the MGS Ground zero demo also face with stuttering issue . Makes me think twice to retain this card for GTA V . Yes , its my call to sell it but it's sad that NVIDIA back tracking their statement and not taking ownership of the issue . I dont believe on fanboyism but more to consumerism . People would say oh the perfomance is not that bad as per review your not going to get affected that much due to missing 500mb ram but you will know once you experience it yourself .

The card just doesnt like it when being push more than 3.5gb ram than its started to choking
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post Jan 30 2015, 10:16 AM

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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Jan 30 2015, 10:10 AM)
To be honest, I don't feel any bad at all.
Why? It delivers the same result I expected from this card.
Why should I feel sad?

I don't look at the specs alone.
I look at the performance as well.

Look at the performance hit between GTX980 and GTX970.
It makes perfect sense.
So, why should I feel sad? Over that 0.5GB? With the same performance delivered?

http://www.guru3d.com/news-story/middle-ea...tress-test.html
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That is probably why in the first place, nVidia decided not to tell us about this configuration.

They probably thought, well, the performance hit is not noticeable now. We better don't tell all. laugh.gif


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post Jan 30 2015, 10:22 AM

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...and nVidia just made a 360 on Twitter... shakehead.gif doh.gif

https://twitter.com/NVIDIAGeForce/status/560878957554569216
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post Jan 30 2015, 11:03 AM

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Oh shit expect massive boycotting soon laugh.gif doh.gif
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post Jan 30 2015, 11:18 AM

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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Jan 30 2015, 10:16 AM)
That is probably why in the first place, nVidia decided not to tell us about this configuration.

They probably thought, well, the performance hit is not noticeable now. We better don't tell all.  laugh.gif
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Technically the performance is the same as I first bought it.
Technically it is way way better than any previous generation card (i.e. GTX760) in terms of performance.
Technically it is still the best card in MYR1K category.

So, what's there complain? What options do we have?

Not happy from existing owners? Sell it and get something you happy with.
Not happy from potential buyers? Get something you happy with.
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post Jan 30 2015, 11:18 AM

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QUOTE(skylinelover @ Jan 30 2015, 11:03 AM)
Oh shit expect massive boycotting soon laugh.gif doh.gif
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I think boycotting will only happen if there are "choices" available. Ohhh, fanboy-ism aside and rationale buying apply only.
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post Jan 30 2015, 11:20 AM

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QUOTE(skylinelover @ Jan 30 2015, 11:03 AM)
Oh shit expect massive boycotting soon laugh.gif doh.gif
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I am still in awe with the performance, power consumption and fan noise after months using GTX970.
Boycotting? What other options with the same performance and price category?
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post Jan 30 2015, 11:26 AM

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QUOTE(shikimori @ Jan 30 2015, 10:14 AM)
erm , u2913wm not exactly 1080p or 1440p per se but still it requires more than just one 970 to play fluidly on ultra with all eye candy on.

No problem with frame rate as I mention all the time . It's just the frame hitching is unbearable , battlefield 4 stop stuttering now  , Dying light gawd awful , Realm reborn once in a while but that's an mmorpg so it could be cpu wise , far cry 4 after new driver update works smooth as butter and ass creed unity is horrendous as usual .

Almost forgot the MGS Ground zero demo also face with stuttering issue . Makes me think twice to retain this card for GTA V . Yes , its my call to sell it but it's sad that NVIDIA back tracking their statement and not taking ownership of the issue . I dont believe on fanboyism but more to consumerism . People would say oh the perfomance is not that bad as per review your not going to get affected that much due to missing 500mb ram but you will know once you experience it yourself .

The card just doesnt like it when being push more than 3.5gb ram than its started to choking
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If this card chokes, you can be sure that all cards from the same category choke as well.

Sell it and get higher end cards.
SLI GTX980/crossfire R290X or wait for R390x.

This post has been edited by ALeUNe: Jan 30 2015, 11:28 AM
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post Jan 30 2015, 11:27 AM

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Agree with terradrive, the main problem once the vram fills up to 3.5 GB , it stutters like no tomorrow, I can vouch on that. There's no problem with the fps bcoz it will always be in the 50-60FPS region.

This post has been edited by alfiejr: Jan 30 2015, 11:27 AM
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post Jan 30 2015, 11:38 AM

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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Jan 30 2015, 11:18 AM)
Technically the performance is the same as I first bought it.
Technically it is way way better than any previous generation card (i.e. GTX760) in terms of performance.
Technically it is still the best card in MYR1K category.

So, what's there complain? What options do we have?

Not happy from existing owners? Sell it and get something you happy with.
Not happy from potential buyers? Get something you happy with.
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Yeah, like I said, if you're happy with the card, then good for you. brows.gif
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post Jan 30 2015, 11:50 AM

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An vid made by pcper, this is a pretty clear explanation on how the memory segmentation works for the gtx970


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post Jan 30 2015, 11:51 AM

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QUOTE(alfiejr @ Jan 30 2015, 11:50 AM)
An vid made by pcper, this is a pretty clear explanation on how the memory segmentation works for the gtx970

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Weird right? nVidia doesn't talk about this in official channel. It subcontract to PCPer.
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if nvidia introduce gtx 970 with its real specs, even though with the same current price people will still buy it no doubt. the card will still the be the best affordable high-end card atm.. it just that customer only wanted exact information of the product they going to buy.. we hate of being deceived. i know the 4GB are still there but its not working like normal people expectation.. So Nvidia should give prior explanation for the real meaning of gtx 970 4GB memory before they letting their customer buy it. i still remember people proudly saying to me 'my gtx 970 same like gtx 980 but only slightly lower cuda and texture'.. now i can't imagine how frustrated he is..
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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Jan 30 2015, 11:51 AM)
Weird right? nVidia doesn't talk about this in official channel. It subcontract to PCPer.
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yeah it's weird, the only reason I guess they dont want to drop the bombshell is to prevent having the mass of gtx 970 being return back to the manufacturers.
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So I'm an owner of MSI GTX970 Tiger, after reading some news of the GTX970 memory issue, how will this affect me?

It seems to affect high resolution gaming.. am wondering will it hit me as well? Currently using a shitty 19" monitor for gaming purposes.

Its a hardware design issue right? Means for it to be corrected they will have to change their whole hardware.. can't be corrected by software updates right?

Am currently running games like DragonAge Inq & Bioshock Infinite on highest setting level and it still runs fine.. just wondering what would the impact be after reading up on the latest news.
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post Jan 30 2015, 12:02 PM

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QUOTE(InvestThing @ Jan 30 2015, 11:56 AM)
So I'm an owner of MSI GTX970 Tiger, after reading some news of the GTX970 memory issue, how will this affect me?

It seems to affect high resolution gaming.. am wondering will it hit me as well? Currently using a shitty 19" monitor for gaming purposes.

Its a hardware design issue right? Means for it to be corrected they will have to change their whole hardware.. can't be corrected by software updates right?

Am currently running games like DragonAge Inq & Bioshock Infinite on highest setting level and it still runs fine.. just wondering what would the impact be after reading up on the latest news.
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19'' the resolution is either 720P or 900P? , shouldn't be a problem. I tested Bioshock Infinite(ran very smoothly ) and DA:I (with all settings on ultra and 4MSAA, the game chew quite a lot of vram and it reaches almost 3GB mark, but it still ran fine). My resolution is 1080P btw.

Your card is the same model as me, you should try overclock it a bit icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Jan 30 2015, 12:03 PM

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QUOTE(alfiejr @ Jan 30 2015, 11:56 AM)
yeah it's weird, the only reason I guess they dont want to drop the bombshell is to prevent having the mass of gtx 970 being return back to the manufacturers.
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Probably they hope nobody knows except those in the forum or reading tech news.

QUOTE(InvestThing @ Jan 30 2015, 11:56 AM)
So I'm an owner of MSI GTX970 Tiger, after reading some news of the GTX970 memory issue, how will this affect me?

It seems to affect high resolution gaming.. am wondering will it hit me as well? Currently using a shitty 19" monitor for gaming purposes.

Its a hardware design issue right? Means for it to be corrected they will have to change their whole hardware.. can't be corrected by software updates right?

Am currently running games like DragonAge Inq & Bioshock Infinite on highest setting level and it still runs fine.. just wondering what would the impact be after reading up on the latest news.
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Its hardware issue. They already said not going to fix it because it is design as such. To nVidia, it is not a bug. And yes, it cannot be corrected by software, driver or BIOS.

The outcome of this is that your card is effectively 3.5GB.
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post Jan 30 2015, 12:06 PM

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QUOTE(InvestThing @ Jan 30 2015, 11:56 AM)
So I'm an owner of MSI GTX970 Tiger, after reading some news of the GTX970 memory issue, how will this affect me?

It seems to affect high resolution gaming.. am wondering will it hit me as well? Currently using a shitty 19" monitor for gaming purposes.

Its a hardware design issue right? Means for it to be corrected they will have to change their whole hardware.. can't be corrected by software updates right?

Am currently running games like DragonAge Inq & Bioshock Infinite on highest setting level and it still runs fine.. just wondering what would the impact be after reading up on the latest news.
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No is the answer. Am running the Asus variant on 1080 res. No issue what-so-ever. Tomb Raider, Max Payne 3, Skyrim (with high-res texture), Far Cry 4 and Shadow of Mordor. Some might say that perhaps I did not "push" it enough to see the problem though...
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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Jan 29 2015, 06:25 PM)
Yes, that's why Nvidia needs to make a cheaper module. Hopefully Gsync 2.0 will be more affordable to the masses.

Dying Light is not scary at all. It's actually intense, if you've played Dead Island then it is similar to that except you're in a city and there's a day/night cycle that changes gameplay. Currently, can't say I'm enjoying the game in terms of performance. 970 SLI at 1440p, I'm getting stutters like crazy. There's no proper SLI profile for the game yet, so I'll have to deal with it but even on a single card playing on 1080p... it's just not that fluid.
Asked a few retailers here, they're not doing the refund yet.
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i still playing doom 3 which i personally feel more scary. single gpu with 1080p monitor already feel icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Jan 30 2015, 12:09 PM

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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Jan 30 2015, 12:03 PM)
Probably they hope nobody knows except those in the forum or reading tech news.
Its hardware issue. They already said not going to fix it because it is design as such. To nVidia, it is not a bug. And yes, it cannot be corrected by software, driver or BIOS.

The outcome of this is that your card is effectively 3.5GB.
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Dude, you're really having a field day eh? rclxms.gif

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