QUOTE(xuzen @ Jun 13 2015, 12:10 PM)
why so?would the usd strengthen all the more?
more will abandon rm for the usd. isnt that how it works?
ringgit Malaysia drop , how to I change my RM to USD
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Jun 13 2015, 12:31 PM
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Jun 24 2015, 02:33 PM
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Been planning for UK trip since May.
In May Gpb was Rm5.45. Been in UK for last 10 days, its now Rm5.91! |
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Jun 26 2015, 04:24 PM
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Downgrade is probably already priced in by now.
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Aug 4 2015, 09:11 AM
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1.00 USD = 3.86698 MYR
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Aug 6 2015, 04:16 PM
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1.00 USD = 3.90730 MYR
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Aug 14 2015, 12:56 PM
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1.00 USD = 4.07088 MYR
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Aug 17 2015, 09:57 AM
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Aug 17 2015, 08:11 AM) A few points missed out, BNM probably recognise that they have no gunpowder to PRop up the RGT anyway.1. BNM never want to prop up RM. Recent intervention was just to reduce the drastic move or too much volatility, to prevent unnecessary fear and chaotic. BNM never want to fix RM at whatever level, which has just been stated by Zeti during recent press conference. 2. Short term debt, mean debt matured soon, it doesn't mean those debt cannot be refinanced, especially if it is RM denominated. Liquidity still ample. Also those short term debt may not all constituted by gov debt. It could be corporate, banking borrowing, which normally can be refinanced easily, and not necessary those money must be outflowing. 3. Increase interest rate won't help to counter the outflow, if foreign investors already decided to flee. A 25 basis or even 50 basis points won't make too much a difference. Capital flee away and back to USD is everywhere, the aftermath remedy of QE ended. Emerging market has been "enjoying" the QE by Fed since 2010 to 2014, now pay back time. So current situation is not about interest rate. The bolded statement is wrong also. In fact, existing bond holder hurt more by the rate hike and could accelerate the bond flee. As when interest rate is rising, bond become less attractive. The currency war between emerging market that many talked about is regarding who depreciate the most for emerging market, everyone want their currency to be lower, not higher. So their "depreciating" currency is not a "defeat". Refinancing is always available. However, interest rates will be different. Looking more and more like we will revisit Rm4.70 to the USD |
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Aug 17 2015, 02:54 PM
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QUOTE Malaysia has a “history of draconian policy responses” and that may be spurring the flow of funds from the country as the currency weakens, said Alan Richardson, a Hong Kong-based money manager at Samsung Asset Management Ltd., which oversees about $112 billion. Global funds held 32% of Malaysian sovereign bonds in July, compared with 17% for Thailand, according to the latest available central bank data. There’s “fear in the market that they would impose macro-prudential measures to limit outflows,” said Anthony Chan, Asian sovereign strategist at AllianceBernstein LP, which oversees US$485 billion globally. - See more at: http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/malaysi...h.ZTCKWzTY.dpuf |
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Aug 27 2015, 07:27 AM
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Some questions here
a) How much of our national debt is foreigner held? It is said if there is a short term run on our bonds, the national reserves of &96 is unable to cover b) Next, while foreigners may sell, there are others who maybe attracted to the yields, Bear in mind, the rating agencies have not down graded Msia yet. c) Why should Bank Negara raise the BR while the country is not doing well? |
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Aug 27 2015, 08:54 AM
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Aug 27 2015, 09:04 AM
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QUOTE(dreamer101 @ Aug 27 2015, 09:01 AM) prophetjul, A) Increase Gomen Income - GSTTHE GOVERNMENT is running a budget deficit of 40 to 50 billions per year. So, THE GOVERNMENT has to borrow money. EPF cannot supply enough money. So, THE GOVERNMENT has to borrow from FOREIGNER. It has NO CHOICE. Or else, it will have to A) Cut government's budget or B) Stop paying the debt aka default Dreamer Cut gomen spending - reduce petrol subsidies B) Refinance from EPF. EPF can afford that. Just kick the can down the road the future gomen |
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Aug 27 2015, 09:11 AM
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QUOTE(Binyamin @ Aug 27 2015, 09:05 AM) They are career politicians. They plan to be back again and again. They must look like they are working. Either that or they don't know better. Exactly. Politicians live for the present. Especially in Misia.Why bother about something which one cant do much about and worsen it by raising rates? Blame it on world woes and get on with life and dish our more BR1M to the kampung folks. And all will be well. Aferall kampung folks arent bothered whether USD be 2,3, 4 or 5 |
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Aug 27 2015, 09:24 AM
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QUOTE(dreamer101 @ Aug 27 2015, 09:11 AM) prophetjul, a) There you go.......30 + 20 = 50bilA) Okay. That can be done. But, it is still not enough. GST of 6% ~ 20 to 30 billions. Petrol subsidy is only 20 billions. B) It is a cash flow problem. There is not enough annual cash in from EPF to finance THE GOVERNMENT's budget. Please note that EPF is only 500 to 600 billions. THE GOVERNMENT's annual budget is 250 to 300 billions per year. Dreamer b) What you wrote there is wrong. Its as if the gomen has ZERO income. They only need to finance the deficit. i am actually more concerned with loss of income from a) Drop in income tax collected. Most Listed companies have seen their profit DROPPED in the last qtr. i hope its only a small pond. But bear in mind petronas who is one of the biggest contributor to the income tax will see massive drop in profit b) sustainabilty of income from Petronas' dividends |
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Aug 27 2015, 09:26 AM
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QUOTE(Binyamin @ Aug 27 2015, 09:11 AM) Increasing tax will further depress economic activity and we don't need that. sorryBest thing to do perhaps is to default on their external debt. Greece has done it many times in the past and they are still around. Check out what's going on with Puerto Rico and Greece now. Default is their way out. That might also be our solution. i dont mean to increase GST. i meant the gomen is already doing that. Default is a very bad word. Look at how they are treated. As pariahs in the economic world. But then again, Argentina has survived. So. |
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Aug 27 2015, 09:27 AM
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Aug 27 2015, 09:48 AM
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QUOTE(Binyamin @ Aug 27 2015, 09:35 AM) High tax means high cost of doing business, less economic activity and less foreign investment. And in this economic climate will speedily result in a dead goose anyway. However Tax is only on Profit. Whereas interest rate is a biz expenditure before profit. Thats killing the goose in its tracks. Wanna see high tax in action? Greece. That is why the eu system is scavenging their assets. Instead of increasing taxes and further have more of their assets strip they are better off to default and leave the eu. Malaysia can do without higher tax too. The end is a dead goose too with higher taxes. looks like best way is to tighten our fiscal policies. Which Bn will not do. DEAD END. |
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QUOTE(kevinkit @ Aug 27 2015, 09:37 AM) Malaysia economy is plague by a lot of negative factor, it’s a matter of time we will crumble to the pressure unless something is being done. 4) Actually our portion of debt held by foreigners is not that high compared1) fundamentally we do not have a strong economy despite what is painted by our brilliant politician compares to some of the neighbouring countries like sg and vn which they keep on moving forward. Since the last decades the emphasis in how to keep holding on in power instead of strengthening the economy. 2) the gloomy world and china economy outlook. 3) falling crude oil price , where we are heavily reliant on PETRONAS for revenue. 4)high debt in terms of bonds help by foreigner 5)political and corruption scandal 6) depleting coffer , e.g. foreign reserves and especially now they are trying to dig into the pencen fund, pilgrimage fund, epf and etc 7) US. Interest hike And I hope that the GST system also will not crumbles as I heard from several sources that currently there is some businesses that are unable to claim back the input and output tax diff from gov for many months. Some business only have working capital for few months, if this is being tied up they will need to close shop. If this is seriously true we are in big trouble. 7) Do you seriously think US will hike their interest rates? Do you seriously think US economy is in good state? |
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QUOTE(Binyamin @ Aug 27 2015, 09:58 AM) They need to hike interest rate or else their states will go bankrupt trying to pay for pensions. Its a catch 22, benefit themselves or benefit the world. Not just the world. In a way they are like us. maybe worse. Their REAL unemployment rate is very high. This is what is really holding the Feds back on hiking.Hike and the economy stalls and unemployment rises. How does the rate hike assist in the state pension funds? i thought most funds would be in the equity markets? |
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QUOTE(Binyamin @ Aug 27 2015, 10:02 AM) USA mistake was they did not raise back interest rate after the 2007 crisis. As a result all emerging country borrowed heavily in USD. Don't think it was mistake. Raise rates and yr economy stalls further. They had to QE their way out. Therefore interest rates had to stay low.A solution to an old problem not lifted becomes another problem down the line. It's a definite that most of the emerging countries are going to default as the USD gets higher. They will receive the margin call from hell itself. Malaysia is also on the chopping block too |
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QUOTE(Binyamin @ Aug 27 2015, 10:26 AM) Their mistake for not raising interest rate has only recently started to show its ugly face... the rise of the USD. Capital world wide are now heading to USA prepping up USD and sending USA into a recession. Irony at its finest i think they will not dare to raise interest rates after a recession! They probably learnt from VolkerDuring his time as the chairman of the Fed, Volcker is credited with ending the high levels of inflation that the United States experienced during the 1970s and early 1980s. When he became chairman in 1979, inflation was high and peaked in 1981 at 13.5%. However, due to the work of Volcker and the rest of the board, the inflation rate dropped to 3.2% by 1983. Volcker raised the federal funds rate from 11.2% in 1979 to 20% in June of 1981. The unemployment rate became higher than 10% during this time as well. Source: Boundless. “Volcker Disinflation.” Boundless Economics. Boundless, 21 Jul. 2015. Retrieved 27 Aug. 2015 from https://www.boundless.com/economics/textboo...tion-475-12571/ |
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