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 ringgit Malaysia drop , how to I change my RM to USD

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post Jul 5 2015, 10:09 PM

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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Jul 4 2015, 12:44 PM)
No other way to find out than to wait and see.

QUOTE(Zanmai0146 @ Jul 5 2015, 09:28 PM)
I wonder MYR will goes up to 3.80 or not on monday
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I'm also curious how the Bursa shares will react on Monday.
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post Jul 5 2015, 10:33 PM

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QUOTE(Zanmai0146 @ Jul 5 2015, 10:22 PM)
My friends in bursa just told me there's a massive sell off now.. I believe investor are started to pulling off now
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Hmm...I don't think it would be across the board, maybe specific to certain companies which may be more vulnerable to negative sentiment than others ?
But will have to see this coming week.
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post Jul 6 2015, 11:31 AM

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I guess Malaysian assets are going to look more and more interesting from a price perspective to foreign investors.
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post Jul 6 2015, 06:53 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Jul 6 2015, 06:01 PM)
Zeti is widely regarded as one of the best central bankers in the world, but her term ends next year.
Who will be the next head of Bank Negara?  hmm.gif
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Is there no possibility of an extension for her term ?
BNM is like the only national institution that's internationally recognized as being well managed, pretty thankful for that.
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post Jul 6 2015, 10:48 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Jul 6 2015, 09:49 PM)
I also hope for extension but would jibby give his blessing?  hmm.gif
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Damn, does he have a say on the BNM governor post as well ? Too much power concentrated on one position is just a pure recipe for disaster.
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post Jul 8 2015, 10:39 AM

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QUOTE(kinggerrard @ Jul 8 2015, 09:59 AM)
Yea... The worst is still has yet to come.. Stay tune! Hope we won't end up like Greece  doh.gif
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The perception problem is not going to be easy to overcome. Tougher job now to get foreign investors to come in, due to the political risk.
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post Jul 27 2015, 09:59 PM

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Just wondering, is the large number of foreign workers in Malaysia who send money back to their home countries a contributor to the Ringgit's weakness ?
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post Aug 16 2015, 11:23 AM

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Folks,
I'm a little confused about the purpose of this thread.

Won't it be more productive if we discussed what can actually be done by the average Malaysian to get through this troubled period ? I know we have quite a number of knowledgable and experienced forumers here.

Anyway, here's an opinion to consider on the USD movement :
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/201...real-on-liftoff


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post Aug 16 2015, 04:17 PM

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QUOTE(Showtime747 @ Aug 16 2015, 12:04 PM)
To me, it is like gambling now.

I still remember not long ago when USD went from 3.0 to 3.6, the same questions like yours came up. Some believe it will stop at 3.8, some thought it would go beyond. Some even thought it would go back to 3.3. On hindsight, those gambled to stop at 3.8 lost. Those acted on their prediction that it will go beyond 3.8 won the gamble

Same situation now. Will it go beyond 4.0 ? 4.5 maybe ? Or come back down 3.8 or 3.6 ? The stake is big (relative), with US$100k for eg, if it goes to 4.5, you gain RM50k. That is 12.5%

The gamble is significant in a volatile market, if you are in a position to gamble that is (ie you have cash to decide to buy US$ or not). If no spare cash, the person can only watch and pray for RM to perform better

Ways I can think of for ordinary Malaysian to hedge include

1. Buy US$ in local banks by opening a foreign currency account
2. Buy US$ greenback from money changer and keep the cold hard cash (easiest, but can lose the paper money)
3. invest in U.S. Stock (even local share platform can do this)
4. invest in bursa companies with big portion or revenue in USD.
5. UNit trust with investment in US stock market
6. ETF in US$ (refer to unker dreamer's thread)

Of course there are ways other than the above
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Thanks, I do agree that making drastic changes based on current fluctuations will involve considerable risk.

Options 3,4,5,6 need not necessarily be high risk gambles though.

QUOTE(icemanfx @ Aug 16 2015, 12:04 PM)
Except those could earn foreign income, average Joe could only braced for inflation and subsequent drop in disposable income.
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Or look for ways to increase income, even if it's only in RM.

QUOTE(AVFAN @ Aug 16 2015, 12:32 PM)
the average msian can't do much.
just don't get into more difficulty by overspending, over borrowing, taking excessive risks.
some may want to grow own veg or make own cheese, but i think all that is just nice talk, zero effectiveness on yr wallet.
bloomberg article... yes, it is always good to read arguments and views from all sides.
there were many such articles in bloomberg and cnbc in may-june about how crude price will return to 70+ by sep.
need to read a lot more to make own judgment and decisions, if any is to be made.
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I've gotta agree, there were some pretty optimistic articles coming out of Bloomberg just weeks ago concerning the outlook for oil, and it's now taking a nosedive.
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post Aug 22 2015, 08:10 PM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Aug 22 2015, 06:50 PM)
i just took a fresh look at the chart after putting in all the variables.
http://www.bloomberg.com/quote/USDMYR:CUR
u can pair as many as u like.

from that bloomberg fx chart, in the last 1 yr, against usd, from best to worst among the selected currencies:

chinese renminbi ("pegged", post devaluation)
thai baht
sing dollar
euro
japanese yen
korean won
indon rupiah
new zealand dollar
aussie dollar
malaysian ringgit

it is curious how come the thai baht is so strong? hmm.gif
big beneficiary of cheap oil?
thai exports exploding? (yes, i know and have visited some monster size rubber glove and food factories there)
bigger and bigger tourism $?
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Perhaps their economy is not that dependent on oil and gas/commodity related revenue ? hmm.gif
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post Aug 23 2015, 09:15 PM

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Newbie question : why would a sign saying "POA" or price on application be a concern ?
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post Aug 26 2015, 08:55 PM

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http://www.cnbc.com/2015/08/25/new-1mdb-fe...nggitagain.html
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post Aug 27 2015, 07:55 PM

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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Aug 26 2015, 10:56 PM)
1MDB have denied the news
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That's irrelevant to everyone else really. It's impossible to not notice the "elephant in the room".
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post Aug 27 2015, 07:56 PM

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QUOTE(aspartame @ Aug 27 2015, 07:52 PM)
I suggest :

1) Do not hike interest rate.

2) Start to tighten flow of funds. Make it harder for funds to come out. Encourage inflow of funds by corporates etc.

3) Hike GST 1% to show sincerity in improving budget. Cut petrol subsidies for the same reason. Better allocation of resources.

4) Continue to raise money by issuing government bonds after the above steps.

5) Let the ringgit have a controlled slide to US4.5 to 4.80. Make exports competitive. Discourage overseas spending. Trade balance will improve and shore up forex reserves.

6) Do not increase corporate and personal income tax. Do not increase int rate. Not even 0.25%. That will send wrong signal.

7) Spend as little as possible on defending ringgit. Just spend enough for it to slide to 4.8. With fiscal prudence and improved trade balance, RM might even surprise ny strengthening. Do not fight the market. Is is futile.
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That's a good list. Number one on that though should really be : Plug the leakage in the government and illicit flow of funds.
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post Aug 28 2015, 06:23 PM

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QUOTE(yolldddd @ Aug 28 2015, 03:22 PM)
I see people don't ever care about the 4.2 drop maybe if drop to 4.6 then people will start panic. Ringgit seem to have stabilized.
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I don't agree. Lots of people are already worried sick with the drop to RM4.2 per USD
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post Sep 3 2015, 01:16 AM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Sep 2 2015, 11:20 PM)
Usd 4.2 if nothing change. Usd4.7 if more "skeleton"revealed, China devalue their currency some more or US  decided to increase rates (US now thinking whether to increase or not due to China)
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Not sure about China and USA but more "skeletons" appearing at home seems almost certain.
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post Sep 3 2015, 11:54 AM

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QUOTE(Hansel @ Sep 3 2015, 11:45 AM)
There is a debt repayment exercise sometime this month to be performed against the 1MDB Loan. It was claimed earlier that an Abu Dhabi firm will forward abt,... of the top of my head,... 785M USD to help Msia. Subsequently, it was reported that the Abu Dhabi firm is reviewing this commitment.

If the UAE is not going to help Msia, where to get the funds to fulfill this exercise ? And the subsequent exercises, eg coupon payment dates, etc ?

If Msia default this month,... then more turbulence to come.

It is the short-term debts tat I worry about.
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More likely to be a quiet bailout by the Malaysian government than a default, I think.
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post Sep 3 2015, 12:21 PM

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QUOTE(yolldddd @ Sep 3 2015, 12:17 PM)
Just relax guys 4.2 ain't so bad when compared to hkd which is 7.75 to the usd but still hong kong people still get by wonderfully smile.gif
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That argument isn't going to work on Malaysians anymore. In fact I don't think it has ever worked.
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post Sep 3 2015, 01:12 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Sep 3 2015, 01:09 PM)
worse they can do is to issue some sukuk bond & "ask" ASx fund or any others local funds to subscribe it
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Or just liquidate 1MDB assets to pay the dues?
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post Sep 3 2015, 01:27 PM

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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Sep 3 2015, 01:20 PM)
1MDB will honour its obligations on JIT basis  brows.gif
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Just in time ? I wish I could say that when dealing with banks on my loans !

Any support from government for the repayment of debt is going to be very badly received by investors and the public.

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