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 ringgit Malaysia drop , how to I change my RM to USD

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Artus
post Jan 7 2015, 04:18 PM

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USD rises we cannot do anything about it because oil is priced in USD. So if oil price goes down, USD would go up. When USD goes up, most other currencies must go down. This low oil price situation cannot go on for long. It would definitely rise again once the shale oil producers go out of business because of persistent low oil price.
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post Apr 30 2015, 02:35 AM

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QUOTE(supersound @ Apr 29 2015, 01:28 PM)
Still weak against SGD, so BNM now are more on kakikong, kakisong whistling.gif
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The ringgit doesn't need to be strong against the Singapore dollar because we don't really need to buy anything that originated from Singapore for consumption but the Singapore dollar must always be strong against the ringgit because they need to buy a lot of stuffs from us for consumption.


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post Apr 30 2015, 03:05 PM

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QUOTE(supersound @ Apr 30 2015, 08:58 AM)
Nope, weak currencies no matter what is not good for us.
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Weak currencies no good no matter what? Then why so many countries try to devalue their currencies in order to boost their economies? Japan and EU are two very good examples.

What good is a strong currency for us if nobody wants our products? If China and India can buy cheaper palm oil from Indonesia, why would they buy from us?


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post Apr 30 2015, 03:20 PM

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QUOTE(supersound @ Apr 30 2015, 03:10 PM)
Japan debt to GDP are at 244%.
EU basically already bankrupt, just that they refuse to declare it. UK allow people to clean dirty money by buying properties.
Both of them do devalue their currencies. So, good or no good whistling.gif
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If Japan was not forced to appreciate its yen by the US in the Plaza Accord, many of their top companies would still be on top of the world, instead of losing to Korean competitors and even China.

That's why when Japan devalues its yen, South Korea also not happy.

South Korean Central Bank Concerned About Yen's Devaluation

Many people like you think strong currency is good because you only think for yourself and not for the whole country.


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post Apr 30 2015, 03:30 PM

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QUOTE(supersound @ Apr 30 2015, 03:22 PM)
Nope, only countries that reaching bankrupt will devalue their money.
You want this to happen?
If a country is good, their people won't be a foreign labor in other countries.
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China before they went on their export driven growth has a strong currency. Before they opened up, they purposely devalued their currency to gain a competitive edge over other exporting nations.

We nearly went bankrupt because of the strong ringgit back in 1997, not weak ringgit. Back in 1997 when the 1USD=RM2.5, our foreign currency reserves was only around USD15 billion. Why? Because of our strong ringgit, many people sent their children to study overseas, borrowed in foreign currencies and bought a lot of imported goods until we have trade deficits.



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post Apr 30 2015, 03:40 PM

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QUOTE(supersound @ Apr 30 2015, 03:35 PM)
In 1997, big wan tan mee only need rm2.50, 2015 a big wan tan mee need rm5.50 whistling.gif
Cannot compare like that.
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Cannot compare like that? If our wan tee mee is still RM2.50 then we would be in really deep shit already by now. You know or not Japan is trying hard to ignite inflation because deflation is far more scary.


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post Apr 30 2015, 03:44 PM

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QUOTE(supersound @ Apr 30 2015, 03:37 PM)
So, we devalue our currencies, but I never see export increases whistling.gif
But I do see more job cut in Malaysia laugh.gif
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No export increases? I guess you must be blind. When our ringgit was strong, we were having trade deficits. Since 1998, we have no trade deficit.

http://www.tradingeconomics.com/embed/?s=m...alance-of-trade
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post Apr 30 2015, 03:52 PM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Apr 30 2015, 03:46 PM)
AFC 97 is not about high currency valuation, but more about unsustainable economy/financial structure.

Just like a person doesn't earn enough (export), but keep on spending (import) more than earn, and keep on borrow more (issued USD denominated bond) to fund the spending.
The imbalance of trade deficit is too steep to be handled.

Using low value currency to compete just means the economy doesn't step up into next level in competing.

We don't see US or Sg intends to lower their currency to compete with others, because they don't need to.

The analogy is like Iphone, vs cheapo phone.
Iphone never will need to lower their pricing to sell their product.

But competitor between cheapo phone needs to lower price to undercut their rival so that they can have better sales, if not they will need to close shop due to poor sales.
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US doesn't lower their currency to compete? Please read the Plaza Accord

Singapore doesn't use interest rate policy like the rest of the world. Here's a very good article on why the Singapore dollar is strong.

The Facts Of Life: Singapore’s Monetary Policy And The SGD Exchange Rate

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post Apr 30 2015, 04:38 PM

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QUOTE(supersound @ Apr 30 2015, 04:30 PM)
Deflation are not scary, what is scary is some people like you spreading flaws whistling.gif
Deflation not scary? Better go study economics lah.

Why Deflation Is Worse Than Inflation

QUOTE(supersound @ Apr 30 2015, 04:30 PM)
Palm oil and rubber price are testing new low.
You may say export are improving, but not our economy, as those money still go back to foreign company's pocket.
I can have USD1 trillion of export products, but only rm10 billion goes to people.
Such number only looks good on paper, but actual people are not getting any benefit from it.
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Do you even know what our biggest exports are or not? And you talked as if every factory in Malaysia is owned by foreigners.

No benefit from higher exports? How about having jobs and economic growth?


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post Apr 30 2015, 04:53 PM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Apr 30 2015, 04:31 PM)
Still poor man tool theory intact.

At that time, US company found it hard to compete against like Sony, Toyota, Panasonic, hence need to low currency to compete.
While there were plenty of political issue involved as well, which needless to talk into it further as get derailed from financial topic.

Fundamentally, there is nothing good or proud about championing with lower currency.
When you constantly and repeating need lower currency to compete, it just means the economy doesn't step up.

Just like cheapo phone vs Iphone example I given.
You can use cheapo phone (lower currency) as start up, kick start, but as time goes, you need to value added making premium phone that people want instead continously relying on people want to buy from you just because you are cheaper.  smile.gif

Economy growth is about improve people income and purchasing power, this is the ultimate goal.
Central banks can build up billion or trillion of foreign currency reserves, but people income and purchasing doesn't increase, then the economy growth doesn't yield much meaningful result.
Just like Japan, it has trillion of foreign currency reserves, but economy is stagnant, then the reserves is not much meaningful to its people and economy as a whole.

Same with China, that's why they allow their currency to rise steadily (which they can resist if they wish to, if based on reason of championing low currency) as this is one of the way to improve their people purchasing power and become a stronger economy.
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So you admit that the US also had to rely on weaker currency to compete.

When your competitors are more or less as competitive as you, example: Japan and South Korea, and suddenly your currency goes up 20%. Would that be a problem or not?

If the US dollar appreciates 1000% against other currencies, Apple also have to close shop or move to other countries lah. How many idiots do you think would buy the iphone at RM30,000?

Purchasing power is definitely important, but of more importance is economic growth and jobs. Do you want to have a strong currency but a negative growth rate like Brunei?


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post Apr 30 2015, 05:35 PM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Apr 30 2015, 05:18 PM)
As I said before, there must be a balance in between, but championing lower currency continously is not something to proud about nor a right direction.

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in other word, it is troubling for gov to say to their people, our currency become lower, hurray, we can do more business... sweat.gif, (it does in certain way, but it just means something is not right prior before devaluation)

You cannot always rely on cheaper currency to compete against rival. We are not talking about appreciation that hurt but constantly using poor man tool aka lower currency to undercut rival.

There is a difference between the currency appreciation hurt your business vs, constantly need to lower currency in order to compete.

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If USD appreciated 10%, or even 20%, people still buy Iphone
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Your currency do not drop, no business, hence need to lower 10% before can get a business.

Lower currency can be good in term of the kick start of ailing economy (just like 98 onwards), but it is like steroid, which cannot rely on it forever.
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It's a delicate balancing game. We cannot have a very weak currency because inflation may be a big problem. We cannot have a very strong currency because exports would suffer. We have gone through '97 and learned how bad a strong currency could be for us.

Even if the iphone goes up 100% in price, surely still got people buy but I can guarantee you Apple's business would suffer. It's been like this for decades for US large companies such as IBM - strong currency would erode their performance.

If you ask me, it would be better if our economy is 99% local demand, then it doesn't matter how strong our currency would be.


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post Apr 30 2015, 06:17 PM

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QUOTE(supersound @ Apr 30 2015, 05:56 PM)
Standing from seller point of view, sure deflation are bad.
But as consumer, deflation is good actually.
Like the price of milk in the world already reduced but Malaysia still selling expensive, they even increase the price, in this case, what Malaysia need is deflation.
I no need to know what we are exporting, I only need to know what people get from that.
Do I getting anything from the high export figures? Nope, nothing. But I do know Indonesia gets about rm 1trillion from Malaysia last year
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This is the problem when you don't have facts. Indonesia got 1 trillion from us? What nonsense are you talking about?


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post Apr 30 2015, 06:18 PM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Apr 30 2015, 06:12 PM)
deflation...

bad for biz owners
bad for stockholders
bad for property speculators
bad for tax collectors
bad for gomen wastage/songlap

good for small fella with stagnant wages (already stagnant in high inflationary environment)
good for retirees, housewives, civil servants (job salary/pension guaranteed) as prices will drop
good for locals as foreign workers will go home
no change for debt holders

so... good for supersound, good for me. can't say for artus and others. laugh.gif
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No job but prices drop good for you or not?


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post Apr 30 2015, 09:43 PM

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QUOTE(supersound @ Apr 30 2015, 06:57 PM)
Legally is USD300billion transacted last year based on money transfer agents.
But, illegal Indonesian workers are a lot, those transactions never been registered.
You know how to count or not?

Indonesian workers in Malaysia remitted almost $1.2 billion back home in 2012

Indonesian workers where got so much money (USD300 billion) to remit home? Talk nonsense lah you.




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post Apr 30 2015, 09:56 PM

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QUOTE(supersound @ Apr 30 2015, 09:49 PM)
I said last year whistling.gif
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What year is still nonsense. Show proof lah. Talk is cheap.

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