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 ringgit Malaysia drop , how to I change my RM to USD

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Hansel
post Aug 15 2015, 10:33 PM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Aug 15 2015, 11:04 PM)
Please do not spread unfounded rumour that intend to spread fear, this is irresponsible act.

Even when 1997 crisis which was far worst than what we are experiencing now, there is no limit on withdraw from bank.
Capital control only imposed on 1998 was targeting only on money outflow to overseas, never on account withdrawal.

It makes no sense to impose withdraw limit from bank account, as it has no relationship to RM dropping nor can stem the RM dropping in forex market.
RM drop in forex market is because money outflow, not money withdrawal from account nor ATM.

If want to contain the speculative outflow of RM, a capital control is enough to stop it.

You need to understand why Greece impose withdrawal, because Greece is short of Euro mainly because they cannot print Euro on their own.

A half understanding can be worst than no understanding at all.
Do not blindly believe with "half understanding".

It is as same as previously people spread rumour that USD was going to be worthless due to trillions of debt, which urge people to rush in gold.

A "half understanding" and believe it, may dump all the USD and invest in gold, now may be suffering 30% losses, and miss the opportunity to reap current USD strength.
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Cherroy,

I appreciated your opinions, BUT NOT the first sentence. Read my posts in the above in my talks with AVFAN, and you can see why you are wrong in saying I spread the rumours. You know something, I wanted to let this case rest after AVFAN's final postingon this rumour subject, but since you brought up this wole issue again, I'll 'entertain' you. Well, I'll let it rest here,.. again see my postings in the above.

I know that Greece is NOT ALLOWED to, not cannot,... okay ?? They can do whatever they wish to,.. including wrangling their way around the rest of the EU trying to have their debts 'forgiven',... however, they are still tied by the rules of being inside the coalition. And one of the rulesis to abide by the rule of not printing the EUro, set by the ECB.
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post Aug 15 2015, 10:47 PM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Aug 15 2015, 11:04 PM)

Even when 1997 crisis which was far worst than what we are experiencing now, there is no limit on withdraw from bank.
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Backin 1997, we still had oil money. We could peg. We don't have that now. Let's see how far will the RM drop, that will be the best indicator if we are worst now, or earlier.
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post Aug 16 2015, 09:47 AM

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QUOTE(Showtime747 @ Aug 16 2015, 09:00 AM)
The more you wrote, the more you expose yourself you have very little knowledge on economics.

Cherroy has explained what you need to know. Google more if you still do not understand

Don't be so defensive when people pointed out your mistake. He is actually spending time teaching you. You are actually benefitting
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I'll be defensive if I have right what that was wrong earlier, especially if it comes from someone who did not read earlier posts and start throwing in unjustified accusations, also known as misconstrued judgement - FROM YOU. Sure, I agree it's a rumour, and I'm glad the rumour is busted,.. fine,... but again, read earlier posts, I was the onewho agreed to it that's it's a rumour. I'll leave my rantings here to focus on more concrete debates.

I appreciated yours and Cherroy's feedback. So,...again to you, looks like I am under-knowledged on international finance. Well, I'm glad I have enuough investments and instrumnts that are still doing well in these economic times. Hmm,... hmm.gif like you said 'I have very little knowledge on economics'....if someone who has very little knowledge on economics can still perform at this level, then,.. well,... biggrin.gif biggrin.gif
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post Aug 16 2015, 10:15 AM

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QUOTE(nujikabane @ Aug 16 2015, 03:11 AM)
But any reason for Zeti to say that?
Weakening MYR would mean it'll be more costly to service loan payable in USD. Ain't that bad for the economy?
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Gentlemen,.. to me, I am more keen to know what the direct effect is to my wellbeing and my loved ones'. The above is ONE DIRECT EFFECT to me. Weakening of the MYR currently will further cause incarese in the price of goods in the country. After the price of goods has increased, it will NOT drop back easily even if everything - the economy, RM, politics recover.

I have diversified my investments into,...

1) RM-wise - ASX funds, and
2) foreign-denominations-wise - many diff instruments overseas,...

Now that the RM is low, like I don't get to see the RM is at such low level for many years, I wonder if it is good to convert the foreign currencies and bring them back to Msia to buy more ASX funds. I will only do this if I can be confident that this country is come back,....

All that we have discussed / speculated upon / debated on / deliberated on / and 'scolded each other about ' will,... hopefully, give a clue in how to make some decisions going forward.
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post Aug 16 2015, 10:20 AM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Aug 16 2015, 10:57 AM)
Every sovereign country that has its own currency can print their own money, if not where the money comes from?  biggrin.gif
Just the more you print, the less value your money will be aka at the cost of inflation, which may haunt you back.

That's why central bank generally will refrain from printing money, unless necessary, as you don't create 'wealth" by printing more money.

This is a fact, not only theory.
When US underwent QE time, they create extra trillion of USD, that's why we saw USD exchange rate plummeting across the globe.
Same with Japan QE, ECB QE.

Eg.
if you print 10 bil, then there is potential 10 bil outflow aka there will be pressure of 10 bil of supply to buy USD or other foreign currency
if you print 100 bil, then there is potential 100 bil money that want to exchange to USD.

100 bil selling pressure more than 10 bil, hence price will go down.
Basic of supply demand that dictates the movement of pricing.

Yes, please do not blindly believe anything, when you think the limit of 3K withdrawal unfounded rumour, it totally has no logic at all, so easily busted.  smile.gif

The news about those money changers outside may be short of USD, is due to demand on physical note, not about liquidity.
Anyone still can exchange a few or hundred of million USD with banks easily.

The only reason why banks want to impose withdrawal limit is when they are short of liquidity.

Currently, liquidity between banks is ample, if banks are short of liquidity, you will see Klibor rate shooting to the roof particularly overnight rate and 3 months rate which serves as indicator what is the situation of liquidity in the financial market.

When there is a liquidity squeeze, you see interbank rate shoot to the roof like during 2008. (Libor rate for global banking interbank lending)
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Cherroy,...

I am aware of the effects of printing money for Msia - which is why I used the word 'doomed' if the world knows and acknowledges that we are printingmoney. I do not need to elaborate further.

I did not believe blindly in what I read - that's why I said need to investigate further,... read my posting in this thread and another one or two somewhere else,... I said to ask the banks, and after it was discovered to be only a rumour,.. then I said it was a rumour, and the best place to ask is the banks. So,.. please do not say that I believe blindly.

By the way, since you said that a person with knowledge on economics will not even start to ask if Msia will turn out to be like Greec, that would be summarising that Msia's banking system is still stable and solid. Well,... I do hope so,... BUT,... I do believe too that Dreamer has some points in his postings and comments abt the Msian banking system.

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post Aug 16 2015, 10:33 AM

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QUOTE(guy3288 @ Aug 16 2015, 11:15 AM)
I read with interest exchanges between you guys...

Hansel just read your own posts here.
If you are not adding fire to the rumour then what is?
You can't blame them for reprimanding you.
More like you finally accepted that rumour is untrue ONLY after being lectured on basic economics by the 2 of them.
??More money means you must be right....
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Guy,.. I am more keen on constructive debates and discussions now,.. it's oky, what you commented above on my first three postings are based on comments made in between time-lines of saying I needed verification of the rumour.

No, more money does not mean I am right - not forever, but yes till now. The knowledge that I have has supported me till I am where I am today in my investment progress.

By the way, I am not really talking about having how moch money, but more on the safety net that one has built for himself in the investment world, andto be able to have a portfolio that can survive today's onslaught. So, to me,... during times like now, we will be ableto see if we have built a portfolio that can withstand all shocks and pain, and still continue to reap income, and if that is so, then one can GO TO SLEEP already with that portfolio - as Dreamer calls it.




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post Aug 16 2015, 10:36 AM

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QUOTE(Showtime747 @ Aug 16 2015, 11:28 AM)
You may be very lucky all these while ?  tongue.gif
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Interesting,... I HAVE BEEN LUCKY ALL THIS WHILE,.. right, we'll see then. IF my portfolio can stand,... then the whole world should learn from me. If my portfolio dies moving forward,... then that's all to it,... should have bought Unker's Vanguard Funds then. MOment of Truth,...it's okay,... rclxms.gif
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post Aug 16 2015, 10:41 AM

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I diversified my investmnts inside and outside of Msia. Inside..., into yield props (like many here) and ASX Funds (Ramjade). Outside - into stocks and funds, as advised by Dreamer,... but have not really bought into the Vanguard FUnds yet. So,... this is DIVERSIFICATION - inside AND outside of Msia. Let's see if can stand !

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post Aug 16 2015, 11:01 AM

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Showtime, I am putting out what I have to the world for debates, so that I/we can learn from it, and can correct if there is anything wrong with it. That is the purpose of this forum. Don't talk abt the figure-lar...I emphasized on this investment progress in this thread becos you said that I am under-knowledged,..

And if you are now saying you commented that I am under-knowledged becos I believed BLINDLY in the rumour, than read back my postings in this thread and in one or two other, and for that matter, please note the timeline of each posting too... so, as you said, let the other forummers decide.

And suddenly you came up with you were just being sarcastic and indicated that I can't even read and understand, and that I have been lucky all this while, under-knowledged but lucky,... I'M A REAL LUCKY GUY THEN, underknowledged, can't read and understand sarcasm,... but can build a portfolio that is still standing solid till now.
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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Aug 16 2015, 11:48 AM)
with yr diversification and quantum, yr prudence in "what if's", u will be the last person here to need advice. tongue.gif
anyway, the speculative predictions so far in this thread have been... 3.30, 3.80, 4.0, 4.1, 4.25, 4.46, 5.0, 6.0... take yr pick! laugh.gif
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AV,... thank you. As for the USD, I think the best thing to do is to prepare for a continuos rise, but at the same time, do not buy anymore at this moment.
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QUOTE(Showtime747 @ Aug 16 2015, 10:41 AM)

Friend, I am just being sarcastic. You can't even read and understand tongue.gif

Like guy3288 said, having more money does not mean you are right. And vice versa. If what you think is true, then economics professor will be the richest man on earth

Just accept that you initially believed in that rumour lah. Everybody saw that clearly tongue.gif

QUOTE(icemanfx @ Aug 16 2015, 12:00 PM)
Professor job is to teach and research, and they are not financially poor by any standard.
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IT's not the amount of money, money can come from anywhere and the majority of it would be from our daily Active Income activities.. it's the progress of the investment and the viability of it withstanding shocks and pain. The economics professor may be good in economics, but he may not know enough abt politics and to a lesser extent, international finance, to perform well enough in investment instrumnts.
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post Aug 20 2015, 04:31 PM

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MY experience : in 1997/8,... when the peg was imposed at USD1.00 to RM3.80, did not suffer anything, just a budding practitioner in the legal industry. No bullets yet. Then in 2005 or was it 2006 (from memory),... poured quite some amount into the SG mkt and the US mkt to start my investmnt lifestyle. That was just before they removed the peg. After I converted into the SGD, the USD, and purchased the instrumnts overseas, they removed the peg....

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The RM STRENGTHENED. Lost money because converted with a weak RM at the earlier pegged level. Today, Governer and PM said will not peg. Adik said the proper value of the RM should be : USD1.00 to RM3.70. If peg should come in the near term, will probably be at around 3.70 level.
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And a Trust Surplus ??

Balance of Trust !!!

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post Aug 27 2015, 01:21 PM

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At my end, I believed hike or no hike from the FOMC is not a major concern anymore. We have to straighten our own house first. It is just too bad that the timing is against us. The US hiking int rates and the (revealing of the) scandals happening in Msia taking place at the same time. Just like the drop in oil price and the re-entering of Iran into the world mkts.

Two impt events I am looking fwd to :-

1) BNM OPR Mtg in September.

2) 2016 Budget in October.
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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Aug 27 2015, 01:13 PM)
Holding on to 4.2355 now
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...whereas the SGD is nearing the all-time high against our Ringgit at this moment.
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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Aug 27 2015, 01:23 PM)
I see,... in tandem with the SGD then. Long live our RInggit,....
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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Aug 27 2015, 01:27 PM)
could be also because of Singapore GE?  hmm.gif
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A GE generally creates uncertainty, hence pulling-out of foreign funds and weakening of the currency of the country experiencing the GE. Probably because of the 'silent following' of the SGD with the USD,... and the yesterday's news about the UAE not wanting to help us anymore with the debt repayment next month. Then most likely,.... default,.... where to get 975M in such a short time.

However, ours have said that the UAE HAS SIGNED an agreement with us saying that they will help us...
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QUOTE(Hansel @ Aug 27 2015, 01:21 PM)
At my end, I believed hike or no hike from the FOMC is not a major concern anymore. We have to straighten our own house first. It is just too bad that the timing is against us. The US hiking int rates and the (revealing of the) scandals happening in Msia taking place at the same time. Just like the drop in oil price and the re-entering of Iran into the world mkts.

Two impt events I am looking fwd to :-

1) BNM OPR Mtg in September.

2) 2016 Budget in October.
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I'm glad I have paid-up all my props and have no loans anymore in Msia, save and except for the Credit Cards. The only effects to me then would be Indirect Effects, if the Overnight Policy Rate is increased by BNM. But Indirect Effects are also killing,... sad.gif sad.gif
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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Aug 27 2015, 02:37 PM)
Nice not to have any loans!
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Yes,... I keep encouraging myself this way, however,... the current state of world affairs and internal sentiment do not bode well,... threats are coming from many directions, legal cases are piling-up with everyone and everywhere,... sad.gif
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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Aug 27 2015, 09:59 PM)
The so-called "dummies" are getting smart these days.. No more close eye / die2 top-up ASx funds to bail out Gomen
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