Although Intel is better,games are using more cores.Even for entry level if the person plays games like DA:I,kinda thinking of an FX-6300 build.

I saw this one comment on one of LinusTechTips' videos,the person said "Linus,why is there no videos with AMD CPUs in a long time? Lol.
Are you sure?Palt GTX750 StormX OC or Dual 2GB RM567.10 at Jayacom. Although the R7 265 is better.
CyntrixTech.. Zotac 1 fan.

I see, no wonder. Running i3 and 260X CF isn't that good idea.

Pretty much you have never tried Mantle before & just take whatever you read in the internet as 100% accurate. The whole point of Mantle is to reduce CPU overhead & it does work.


Are you sure your're not the one confusing here? Well I'm not talking about DX9 or DX11 here but Mantle. (Shortened previous reply above to show that is the only thing I'm commenting.) You said it's useless which is not true. Did you ever try it? I don't think so. AMD has been updating Mantle at least few times since release, are sure it wasn't new update of Mantle in the driver that fixed the problem with 285? I have been using Mantle since release in BF4 & never look back. Nowadays I'm no longer playing games @1080p. Now 1440p or 4K resolution for me. Now I'm using DX11 again even in BF4. At the moment I'm only playing two games, BF4 & GTAV with DX11 & 1440p resolution. Well I don't have any complain with performance whatsoever.

You're talking about driver overhead but keep linking the issue with DX9 - DX11. What about driver overhead with Mantle then?

Have you seen AMD FX CPU with quad 290X rig? Note: he doesn't play @1080p of course.

Well, why don't you then? lol

We all know the issue with AMD driver is high DX11 CPU overhead & usage. This is what driver overhead is referring to actually. When you said Mantle or DX12 is useless if AMD doesn't fix the driver overhead issue, it doesn't make sense to me. To solve driver overhead issue, AMD introduced Mantle & thanks to Mantle, now Microsoft introducing DX12. Using BF4 as an example, since it's DX11-enabled & Mantle-enabled game, performance when using Mantle much better than when using DX11 because the API CPU overhead & CPU usage are reduced, allowing more draw calls per second. However, while Mantle work great with GCN 1.1 card (Hawaii), it doesn't look so great with older cards. I'm afraid this trend may carry forward when Win 10 & DX12-enabled games available. We'll see. Right now I think to really utilize DX12, you need at least Hawaii card(s) if you go with AMD cards.

If DX12 is anything like Mantle, we will see better performance once Win 10 & DX12-enabled games available. However, AMD will still struggling when running Nvidia-optimized games though. So we will still see the same crap that we're seeing currently. With the closed codes, e.g. Gameworks, it's hard for AMD to release optimized drivers for that games.

It's not black and white, as depending on the inherent efficiency of the rendering interface and any additional abstraction steps that the driver may or may not have to make, a choice of Mantle or DX can affect things.

Graphics is a lot more complex than just a simple SIP pipeline. For example a driver might have issues with texture calls and transfers being the most cycle heavy, thus the use of a CTM (Close to Metal) like Mantle where you can  actively manage hierarchy can reduce CPU usage as a whole even on the driver side of things. This is dependency in action.

Hard to see anyone running AMD processor and pairing it up to enthusiast Radeons. Basically The issue of CPU overhead is moot when running on Intel processor.

I don't think that is the case. If there's driver overhead then i3-4130 should perform significantly worse than i7-4770. FX-8350 simply cannot fight intel CPU performance in gaming.

empire23
Personally what i fear the future will be one sided

Maxwell is akin to time of core2duo for intel. Everybody thought amd will challenge soon.

Amd better not sit on their laurels. They need to make more efficient gpu.
They have lost the desktop cpu, then notebook cpu n igpu and nowhere to be found on small form factor pc/tablets/ultrabook etc.

290x was ok because alot of ppl ignored the power requirement it used.

If they dont challenge nvidia in all levels this time.. I fear whats gonna happen with pascal. Maxwell is a truly incredible jump from kepler.

390x n Fury X or whatever the naming scheme better rise up. Nobody even cares or even bothers on amd cpu refreshes n updates but all know intels roadmap. Lets pray this does not happen with discreet gpu.

lol this guy doesnt even knew about r9 290x doesnt have crossfire port..haha

What is the power consumption?

Did anyone discuss on the pricing?  USD649, USD549, i think this is great pricing.Fury X is way cheaper than titan x, Fury Air cooled is slightly cheaper than 980 Ti.

Fury Air cooled caught my attention, probably get one of this, and water cooled it to fit into my ncase M1.  Started to think about waterblok or if i can reuse my existing universal block with proper mounting brackets.

suddenly im so exited of going to freeysync route instead of g-sync.  As perfect g-sync/freesync monitor still non-available in malaysia.  Whichever came first i'll go for that.

That small form factor of air cooled fury really caught my attention, and of course the price. 

Enough with gameworks guys, it's all AMD, Nvidia and developers fault.

Yeah FC4 4k benchmark looks good but i take it with a grain of salt because it's not from trusted reviewers.

I don't think it's cherry picked result, more like cherry picked game.


290X performs really well for Far Cry 4 4K at Ultra settings.

4K is too overhyped, I'd rather go for 144Hz 1440p than 4K.

Err i found it happens on altertered vbios.  Ref doesnt seem to be affected.

tdp dude.

a lot of ppl dont seem to understand tdp. Got a lot of noobs on PC Gaming Community (Malaysia) FB

nvidia measures tdp at 85C with their own respectable db sound. Thats y the clock rates so low with massive oc reserved
until they see a better yield with lower temps they up it. Just like titan black vs 780ti. Its not for fun.

Fury X in comparison should be at 50C. Need to see the aircool version.

temps affect tdp value.